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Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:10 pm

@El Gunner wrote:Stahp it.

Top 3 midfielders in the world at the moment:
1. Modric
2. Verratti
3. Cazorla


Cazorla Laughing

The 3 best CM's are Kroos, Modric and Iniesta, the rest are far below.

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Post by El Gunner on Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:41 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Ramsey was comfortably better than him last night.

stop.

Verratti is twice the player Ramsey is.

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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by rincon on Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:29 pm

What exactly happened to make people react like this? the own goal? even that just as much Marquinhos fault.
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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by Firenze on Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:32 pm

been terrible all season and average before that despite the hype hmm
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Post by RealGunner on Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:34 pm

@rincon wrote:What exactly happened to make people react like this? the own goal? even that just as much Marquinhos fault.


Been quite average-poor this season for PSG.

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Post by rincon on Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:48 pm

@Firenze

He was never average before, you know that as well. I also don't buy into that whole top 5 CM thing though. He has the potential, and will be, but isnt that yet. Even in the NT, Marchisio and De Rossi are both better. Understandably so, given their experience. I wouldnt take any CM his age over him for sure though.

To put it into perspective, he was given the reigns of a very ambitious PSG straight out of Serie B. He never even was in A. His response and maturity are outstanding. An slump in form is expected at some point.
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Post by sportsczy on Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:38 pm

He was never given the reigns of PSG straight out of Serie B.  His first year, he did well but had problems with Carlo due to discipline.  Then Beckham was brought over in the winter and he was splitting time with him.  Carlo also picked Chantome over him due to discipline quite a few times. Matuidi and Motta were clearly the top 2 CMs under Carlo.  Verratti caught up to Matuidi and Motta about halfway through Blanc's first season.

For the past 12 months for PSG, Verratti has either been injured or very undisciplined on the pitch.  He's regressed some.  But he has immense talent and should get his mojo back.  

The issue is that he only really did well in a 433 when Motta was covering for him and he played the "Modric" role in that system for PSG.  He's had a hard time either playing lower or higher (both have been tried) in a 442 or 4231.  He takes too many risks on the ball and he fouls too much when he plays low... he doesn't look for his offense when he plays high.  Modric is a great player though so maybe he's fine playing that niche.

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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by rincon on Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:43 pm

Of course, which is why Verratti played twice as many matches and minutes as Motta under Ancelotti.
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Post by sportsczy on Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:49 pm

Motta was injured a lot under Carlo.  But he was clearly the man.  Come on Rincon.  You clearly didn't watch PSG and you're looking at stat sheets.  Motta was the one setting the pace in the midfield and Matuidi was the heart and soul.

Verrati started 23 of 38 Ligue 1 games in his first season at PSG and exactly the same in his second season.  Under Blanc, that suddenly jumped to 28 and would have been higher if he didn't have health issues late in the year.  

Under Carlo, he was often the first player to get subbed off.

And Motta started 31 Ligue 1 games in his one truly healthy season under Carlo. He only had 11 in his first season as he was perma-injured early.

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Post by rincon on Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:55 pm

Absolutely, I agree. Motta truly had the reigns of PSG in their shared season under Ancelotti. Verratti playing twice as much in the league and in the CL, and starting most games is irrelevant. The player that plays significantly more is not the one setting the pace in midifled, its the player that should have been doing it had he been there who really runs the game.

Its the same thing that happened with Italy in the euros. De Rossi didn't run the midfield. Marchisio did. Cause had he been there, he would have done it.
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Post by sportsczy on Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:03 am

Matuidi was incredible for Carlo...  he made his name then.  

I remember succinctly that Verratti took the step forward when Blanc publicly said after he got another red card...  He's not a kid anymore.  He's been playing long enough.  Either he understands what it takes to be a regular on a top team or we will make decisions...  something like that.  That got Verratti going.

Kid's issue isn't talent or ability obviously.  It's emotions.  He needs a manager that can even him out emotionally. The other issue is that he takes unnecessary risks in bad areas. Forgets to play simple.

But, along with Pogba, he's the best young CM out there clearly imo.

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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:12 pm

bump

What a fraud

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Post by Firenze on Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:13 pm

Had to be James lmao, if you go through the threads hyping up younger players that flop he's always behind them ffs

Veratti will join his PSG teammate Krychowiak at West Brom next season IMO
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Post by vanDEEZ on Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:17 pm

Verratti is a mental midget and a physical midget. Not a good combo
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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by Doc on Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:56 pm

Only an absolute dunce of a footballer would argue with the ref with a yellow to his name. It's like he never ever learns, like at all.

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Post by futbol on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:15 pm

The talent was there to be the next great midfielder of this generation. But he went to France at 19 and played at Segunda/Championship level for 6 years so he stagnated just like that.

Same will happen to Mbappe if he doesn't leave IMMEDIATELY.

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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:17 pm

He could have saved his career by joining Bayern tbh. He messed up.

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Post by futbol on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:20 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:He could have saved his career by joining Bayern tbh. He messed up.


Bundesliga is also Segunda/Championship level. So no.

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Post by guest7 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:28 pm

@futbol wrote:The talent was there to be the next great midfielder of this generation. But he went to France at 19 and played at Segunda/Championship level for 6 years so he stagnated just like that.

Same will happen to Mbappe if he doesn't leave IMMEDIATELY.


Have to agree with this. Say what you want about Spain but Spain youth levels in NT has been dominating & Sevilla has been dominating Europa League... In other words, Spains league is elite. But the top 2 are the best and most consistent teams in the world that outspends any other club in the world so it's hard to beat them. Not to say it doesn't happen - Atletico managed to win the league. But Barca and Madrid are out of this world.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:40 pm

Verratti is 25, he still has time to join a club like Juventus and to learn how to be great. He needs Juventus to save him

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Post by rincon on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:45 pm

Nick that's the spirit drinking

he needs to be saved by us
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:50 pm

yeah, he needs to go back home, he needs to join the biggest club in italy right now

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Re: Is this the season Verratti proves he's the best midfielder in the world?

Post by Doc on Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:51 pm

Sure, they just have to wait till his contract is up as we all know Jjuve can't afford Veratti outright.

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Post by Luca on Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:08 pm

Damn Nick, great post

@doc no one can afford him, he’s shackled by a bottomless financial giant
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:16 pm

your saving grace is that he is not good enough for PSG in CL now, he is getting criticized a lot, and everyone can see it, so they might not be that against selling him if they can identify another midfield to sign.

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Post by rincon on Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:24 pm

the problem is that if he isn't good enough for PSG in CL now then neither is any of their midfielders. He manages to outperform them every time.
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