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Re: Official: Pogba returns to Manchester United
if that's true then why do people keep saying he is being played out of position.sportsczy wrote:Pogba's style is not at all like Gerrard or Lampard or any of these people ffs.
His blessing and his curse is that he can literally play any midfield position physically and technically. He can be a holding mid, B2B, CM, AM and even a 10 both and left or right side of the pitch. Because he's so multi-skilled... managers put him in the position that the other midfielders on their squad cannot play regardless of whether it's the best use for Pogba. Why? Because it's best for the team although not for him. It happens for France NT all the time.
Just look at Man U so far... He's played defensive B2B in a 4231, attacking B2B a 4231, AM in a 433, 10 in 442.... with his midfield partners changing between Fellaini, Herrera, Rooney and Mata. ... in 10 games only with no preseason!
How the heck is he supposed to settle into anything in a new league with new teammates like this.
Despite it all, he's finding form slowly. But he starts games slowly because... it's literally new teammates and roles in almost every game. So he takes time to find his marks.
Come January though, I hope Mou will settle into a regular starting 11 and rotations... and settle for the most part Pogba's role into no more than 2 possible variations.
What will he look like? Like he did with with Juve. Namely, a very skilled attacking player who breaches defenses and creates opportunities for his teammates. He'll score 10-15 goals and have 10-15 assists for the season... but teams will be forced to put 2 players to cover him, so his impact will be far more than just stats.
That's Pogba.
And btw... since France has settled into a 442 for 4-5 games in a row now, Pogba is finding his place... he looked phenomenal against the Netherlands.
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if that's true then why do people keep saying he is being played out of position. [/quote]Unique wrote:
He can play any position perfectly in a 10mx10m square in the left forward midfield
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The Demon of Carthage wrote:I tried to enter this thread earlier but I couldn't because the colossal amount of excuses for Pogba's suckage was blocking the entrance.
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rincon wrote:if that's true then why do people keep saying he is being played out of position.Unique wrote:
He can play any position perfectly in a 10mx10m square in the left forward midfield [/quote]
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pogba can play any midfield position now? It's a blessing and a curse too? How do you come up with this stuff?
Pogba does sod all, his claim to fame is to do shitty tricks and score a flashy goal every now and then, while real midfielders do the midfielding, he sucks ass as an out and out mid, mata and herrera>
Pogba does sod all, his claim to fame is to do shitty tricks and score a flashy goal every now and then, while real midfielders do the midfielding, he sucks ass as an out and out mid, mata and herrera>
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chad4401 wrote: pogba can play any midfield position now? It's a blessing and a curse too? How do you come up with this stuff?
Pogba does sod all, his claim to fame is to do shitty tricks and score a flashy goal every now and then, while real midfielders do the midfielding, he sucks ass as an out and out mid, mata and herrera>
This Sportsczy is a funny character. I took the time to study this cat through his past posts. Pure delusion from his first post to his last. Reading it you would think he was in the boardroom whispering sweet nothings into Florentinos ear.
Obviously the pillow talk failed because this dabbing fraud has been caught dabbing with his pants down!
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sportsczy is a good guy and his opinion is as good as anyones. if we all agreed with every post the forum would be boring.El Kommander wrote:chad4401 wrote: pogba can play any midfield position now? It's a blessing and a curse too? How do you come up with this stuff?
Pogba does sod all, his claim to fame is to do shitty tricks and score a flashy goal every now and then, while real midfielders do the midfielding, he sucks ass as an out and out mid, mata and herrera>
This Sportsczy is a funny character. I took the time to study this cat through his past posts. Pure delusion from his first post to his last. Reading it you would think he was in the boardroom whispering sweet nothings into Florentinos ear.
Obviously the pillow talk failed because this dabbing fraud has been caught dabbing with his pants down!
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No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
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Laughing at Pogba and United is really fun, but for the sake of truth it must be said that Pogba at Juve did display all the midfielding. It was only in his last season when he took the 10 and played like what chad is describing.
Under Conte his positioning and distribution was on point. He always played LCM, but not this free role attacking kind. He, like every player with Conte, had to be all about positioning and tactical discipline. Which he did wonderfully, specially for a youngster.
Under Conte his positioning and distribution was on point. He always played LCM, but not this free role attacking kind. He, like every player with Conte, had to be all about positioning and tactical discipline. Which he did wonderfully, specially for a youngster.
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I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
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Unique wrote:I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
I don't think anyone is questioning his talent. The "fun" is just poking at the 120M valuation. For that price, you expect a leader for greatness for the team in the mold of a Messi or Ronaldo. You would think that when a club spends a new high valuation, they would think that is the missing piece for leadership to greatness for the club.
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futbol_bill wrote:Unique wrote:I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
I don't think anyone is questioning his talent. The "fun" is just poking at the 120M valuation. For that price, you expect a leader for greatness for the team in the mold of a Messi or Ronaldo. You would think that when a club spends a new high valuation, they would think that is the missing piece for leadership to greatness for the club.
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Unique wrote:I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
aka Henderson
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So Ronaldo, Suarez, Zidane, Bale, Hazard, Di Maria, Ozil, etc. are all crap players who couldn't do anything because they struggled for several months (some year) when they changed leagues.
:faceplam:
And yeah, Pogba has become great as a left side CM in the double pivot for France now. Took him 5 games with a consistent team around him... With Man U, he was good as and attacking left side B2B (played that twice) and now the AM in front of 2 DMs in a midfield 3.
Watch the games. Stop being morons Some of you (dare I say most) can't help it though. It's your lot in life.
:faceplam:
And yeah, Pogba has become great as a left side CM in the double pivot for France now. Took him 5 games with a consistent team around him... With Man U, he was good as and attacking left side B2B (played that twice) and now the AM in front of 2 DMs in a midfield 3.
Watch the games. Stop being morons Some of you (dare I say most) can't help it though. It's your lot in life.
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Unique wrote:I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
so you mean there is not so much difference between Hendo and Pogba
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Nishankly wrote:Unique wrote:I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
aka Henderson
apologies, missed this post !
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Unique wrote:I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.chad4401 wrote:No one is saying his opinion doesn't matter, but you can't be capable of playing every position and clearly struggling, when your asked to run a midfield, I watched a couple of Juve games in the past, pogba was always doing everything except actual midfielding, there is more to footy than being a runner and scoring nice goals, which seems to be all that count nowadays.
Pogba is talented everyone can agree on that, but he is lacking in fundamentals such as positioning and ball distribution, he will continue struggling until manu surround him more capable mids(mata and Herrera) to cover up for that.
He sure is a master of shooting from distance, for starters. Those shots are spectacular and very, very precise.
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Helmer wrote:Nishankly wrote:Unique wrote:
I think pogba is a jack of all trades but a master of none.
aka Henderson
apologies, missed this post !
hahahhaha
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El Kommander wrote:chad4401 wrote: pogba can play any midfield position now? It's a blessing and a curse too? How do you come up with this stuff?
Pogba does sod all, his claim to fame is to do shitty tricks and score a flashy goal every now and then, while real midfielders do the midfielding, he sucks ass as an out and out mid, mata and herrera>
This Sportsczy is a funny character. I took the time to study this cat through his past posts. Pure delusion from his first post to his last. Reading it you would think he was in the boardroom whispering sweet nothings into Florentinos ear.
Obviously the pillow talk failed because this dabbing fraud has been caught dabbing with his pants down!
ffs
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What's his excuse today now?
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Look at him defending here
he clearly gave up in that gave
Where's the defence??? Kante slots in a cool finish
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he clearly gave up in that gave
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The whole frakking team gave up
SAF must be frantic right now to look at what his great team has become.
SAF must be frantic right now to look at what his great team has become.
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OMG THAT CASUAL JOG
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that piece of "defending" reminds me of the goal we conceded to sevilla last season, with isco just casually strolling. this move is looking ridiculous by the minute. i heard a commentator saying pogba needs to create goalscoring chances for his teammates or score some goals....and i'm thinking to myself, its not really a CM's role, but then i remember, you paid 120 million for this guy. for that kind of money, he better make it his role
which is why i say the fee matters, besides mourinho, the other person feeling pressure from these terrible results of 1 win in like 6 pl matches is pogba. he isn't playing like a 120m player at all, and he knows it. the freedom from pressure isn't there. very soon, one of these journalists might bring up the fee at a press conference, ask whether he's thinking about it too much. that shot he attempted that didn't go nowhere typified utd's whole game
which is why i say the fee matters, besides mourinho, the other person feeling pressure from these terrible results of 1 win in like 6 pl matches is pogba. he isn't playing like a 120m player at all, and he knows it. the freedom from pressure isn't there. very soon, one of these journalists might bring up the fee at a press conference, ask whether he's thinking about it too much. that shot he attempted that didn't go nowhere typified utd's whole game
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How much did he cost again?
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Mr Nick09 wrote:Look at him defending hereWhere's the defence??? Kante slots in a cool finish
— Y! Online (@YNaija) October 23, 2016
Chelsea 4 - 0 Manchester United #CHEMUN pic.twitter.com/gJGDWF2YqF
he clearly gave up in that gave
I'd expect more grit in someone like McArthur ffs, This is actually disgraceful for any midfielder.
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