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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:16 pm

People watch Real Madrid BECAUSE they are part of La Liga. People do NOT watch La Liga because Real Madrid is a part of it. They would just as well watch Barca-Valencia and Atletico-Sevilla.

And no one would watch Real Madrid in an amateur league.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:21 pm

Yeah sure their voices count...

Here is a breakdown of the new domestic deal worth 2.65 billions for 3 year

They have not announced the new overseas deal yet
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Post by VanDeezNuts Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:26 pm

Don't call me James wrote:People watch Real Madrid BECAUSE they are part of La Liga. People do NOT watch La Liga because Real Madrid is a part of it. They would just as well watch Barca-Valencia and Atletico-Sevilla.

And no one would watch Real Madrid in an amateur league.


I think you have that backwards mate. People watch RM (and thus La Liga) because of the players RM have. The vast majority of people are not watching Granada v Las Palmas, but people do watch RM v Granada etc.

I highly doubt the casual fan cares what league RM play in- they are most famous for their CL play anyways..

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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:38 pm

People don't watch leagues... they watch players.  The teams with the best players are the most watched.  Simple as that. You will get local popularity regardless of players. But you will never get a large national and international following without having a worthy product.

As long as Real Madrid has some of the most popular players in the world, it will be massively popular.  The team could move to the Portuguese league and its popularity wouldn't even hiccup.


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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:41 pm

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Don't call me James wrote:People watch Real Madrid BECAUSE they are part of La Liga. People do NOT watch La Liga because Real Madrid is a part of it. They would just as well watch Barca-Valencia and Atletico-Sevilla.

And no one would watch Real Madrid in an amateur league.


I think you have that backwards mate. People watch RM (and thus La Liga) because of the players RM have. The vast majority of people are not watching Granada v Las Palmas, but people do watch RM v Granada etc.

I highly doubt the casual fan cares what league RM play in- they are most famous for their CL play anyways..


I don't have it backwards. The reason Real Madrid's brand is as powerful as it is is BECAUSE they are part of La Liga. Look at Celtic and their domination of their league. Nobody gives a shit about them. Or Olympiakos in Greece etc.

I already explained the short term and long term effects on the last page. Madrid's brand will dissipate long term and La Liga would survive the short term shock.

Real Madrid needs La Liga and what La Liga offers them (Barca, Atleti, Valencia, Sevilla etc) more so than La Liga needs Madrid.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:42 pm

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/spanish-la-liga-new-3-year-tv-deal-worth-e2-65-billion/
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:42 pm

sportsczy wrote:People don't watch leagues... they watch players. The teams with the best players are the most watched. Simple as that.

As long as Real Madrid has some of the most popular players in the world, it will be massively popular. The team could move to the Portuguese league and its popularity wouldn't even hiccup.


Real Madrid would not have the brand power or the prestige if they were NOT in La Liga thus none of these players would be playing for Real Madrid.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:43 pm

Nobody gives a crap about Celtic because they have crap players that nobody cares about Laughing
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:44 pm

sportsczy wrote:Nobody gives a crap about Celtic because they have crap players that nobody cares about Laughing


Exactly. No one will give a shit about Real Madrid in 10 years if they are kicked out of La Liga. No tip players would go to play there.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:45 pm

And La Liga is not even the reason Madrid is the most glamorous club in the world. It's the Champions League / ex-European Cup that makes us the biggest club in the world. Sevilla and Valencia rofl
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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:45 pm

@James.... you can't be this dense.  Come on dude.  Whoever has the most money can buy the best players and whoever has the best players gets the most fans.  Leagues just give you an arena to compete.  Ligue 1, Portuguese League, etc. would get on their knees if Real Madrid wanted to join.  And the biggest competition is the Champion's League.

La Liga doesn't have a monopoly in terms of competitive arenas.  There are several.  If it wanted to, Real Madrid could just move leagues.  It won't because Spain won't allow it... they will compromise with Real Madrid.  It would be unthinkable.  BUT, Real Madrid will make sure it gets the deal that it can live with and nothing less.


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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:46 pm

Valkyrja wrote:And La Liga is not even the reason Madrid is the most glamorous club in the world. It's the Champions League / ex-European Cup that makes us the biggest club in the world. Sevilla and Valencia rofl


La Liga offers Real Madrid Champions League qualification.

Real Madrid would NOT be in CL without La Liga.

Please stop arguing about this. You will lose this argument.
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Post by nasir6371 Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:48 pm

@James I agree 100%. People writing off Madrid's effort to undermine the competition off the pitch IS NOT AND WILL NEVER BE "business as usual". Since football more than just business. Even when business try to eliminate competition the consumer loses.
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:48 pm

sportsczy wrote:@James.... you can't be this dense. Come on dude. Whoever has the most money can buy the best players and whoever has the best players gets the most fans. Leagues just give you an arena to compete. Ligue 1, Portuguese League, etc. would get on their knees if Real Madrid wanted to join. And the biggest competition is the Champion's League.


First off give me an example of a federation taking in a foreign club. And no Monaco doesn't count.

Madird will not have the money nor the prestige without eerything La Liga has to offer them.
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:56 pm

If you only play against scrubs, people forget why your players are supposed to be all that great anyway;
Real will get enough money from the UCL.
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Post by zizzle Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:56 pm

Maybe we as fans have a romantic fantasy about how sports should be pure and competitive, but football is a business, and in business you simply dont take less if you can get more.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:58 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:If you only play against scrubs, people forget why your players are supposed to be all that great anyway;
Real will get enough money from the UCL.
has not happened to Bayern yet though, there is hope
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:59 pm

As much as I would love to keep rebutting these idiotic arguments from you Madridistas, it's a moot point and I have to go.

Madrid won't be affecting by the equitable TV deal anyways.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:03 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:They matter just as much as yours. Do you want to play against yourselves? *bleep* pricks.


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Post by nasir6371 Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:10 pm

People grasping at straws by comparing the legal attempt to stop the Football Federation and Spanish Gov't in enforcing a more equitable TV deal and buying rivals players. rofl
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Post by Unique Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:23 pm

Are people surprised by anything Madrid do.
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Post by Doc Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:20 pm

Clearly Madrid have awful lawyers.
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Post by breva Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:08 pm

It seems the "poor" clubs in La Liga are better most clubs of other leagues. Madrid is right, why change the distribution of income? La Liga is about 20 points ahead of the other top 3 leagues in UEFA coefficient.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:28 pm

nasir6371 wrote:People grasping at straws by comparing the legal attempt to stop the Football Federation and Spanish Gov't in enforcing a more equitable TV deal and buying rivals players. rofl


The outcome is pretty much the same
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Post by M99 Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:02 am

Scum move. I remember Bayern helping out Dortmund when they were going bankrupt, can't imagine Madrid doing anything like that ever.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:06 am

Laughing

Clearly you know nothing about our club and what we do for others

Just some seasons ago (2013 to be precise) we played a friendly in the middle of the league campaign against the once powerful Deportivo LaCoruna who were threatened with liquidation. ALL proceeds of the game were donated to Depor and everything was paid for by Madrid. Look at them now and compare tohow they were then. Until this day they still thank us

Half of the players in this league came through our youth system that they were able to get for cut prices. Every season teams in LL get players from our youth team that play a big role in helping them stay up/qualify for Europe places. No other team in Europe helps out their league as much as we do

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