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Post by Casciavit Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:15 am

Ryan Gauld rofl

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:19 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Gil wrote:Been scouting Perez for several years. He's the real deal.


Here we go lads, I think we can decipher that he's a scrub imo.


One glance at wikipedia confirms hes a scub and IMO that's more accurate scouting than whatever the f Arsenal's team are doing there
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Post by Helmer Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:30 am

I guess Arsene nevers signs a player without a reason. He definitely sees something in that player. I am sure, you all will proved to be fool during the season !

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Post by Glory Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:32 am

Isnt he the Spanish Vardy? Seems legit to me if he is a player of similar mold. Probably will suit Arsenal's style more than that lump Girooo ever had. I mean how bad he can be. Even Welbeck managed to turn up decent in the Arsenal setup. He should surely be better than Welbeck. Shouldnt he?!

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Post by Sri Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:55 am

Helmer wrote:I guess Arsene nevers signs a player without a reason. He definitely sees something in that player. I am sure, you all will proved to be fool during the season !



... we said when Wenger signed Park Sanogo Chamakh Bendtner Perez.

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Post by Unique Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:59 am

Glory wrote:Isnt he the Spanish Vardy? Seems legit to me if he is a player of similar mold. Probably will suit Arsenal's style more than that lump Girooo ever had. I mean how bad he can be. Even Welbeck managed to turn up decent in the Arsenal setup. He should surely be better than Welbeck. Shouldnt he?!
im better than Welbeck.
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:02 pm

Unique wrote:
Glory wrote:Isnt he the Spanish Vardy? Seems legit to me if he is a player of similar mold. Probably will suit Arsenal's style more than that lump Girooo ever had. I mean how bad he can be. Even Welbeck managed to turn up decent in the Arsenal setup. He should surely be better than Welbeck. Shouldnt he?!
im better than Welbeck.

No.

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Post by Sri Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:03 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Gil wrote:Been scouting Perez for several years. He's the real deal.


Here we go lads, I think we can decipher that he's a scrub imo.


One glance at wikipedia confirms hes a scub and IMO that's more accurate scouting than whatever the f Arsenal's team are doing there


Thank you for that deep insight. I thought Gil's post would be the last word on this matter. Maybe not the case.

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Post by free_cat Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:08 pm

Sri wrote:
Unique wrote:
Glory wrote:Isnt he the Spanish Vardy? Seems legit to me if he is a player of similar mold. Probably will suit Arsenal's style more than that lump Girooo ever had. I mean how bad he can be. Even Welbeck managed to turn up decent in the Arsenal setup. He should surely be better than Welbeck. Shouldnt he?!
im better than Welbeck.

No.


I believe him.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:09 pm

Glory wrote:Isnt he the Spanish Vardy? Seems legit to me if he is a player of similar mold.


Signing Vardy already was a stupid idea, it's even more stupid to then go "we can't get Vardy? Let's get the Spanish Vardy then".

Especially after hapring on forever how it's not enough just to buy players, but players that improve the team.
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Post by free_cat Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:13 pm

Not a bad comparison with the Spanish Vardy. Perez scores most of his goals at the counter with tons of space in front of him. And usually after a clearance or a defensive blunder. But he is not as fast as Vardy and he won't have that space at Arsenal. I can't see him succeeding.

Just think that Arsenal could have gotten Higuain or Suarez for much less thatn what they finally went if Wenger wasn't a cheapskate. Perhaps they even would have a PL title with one of them.... well probably not though. Laughing


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Post by Unique Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:27 pm

not sure why arsenal would want a vardy type player. most teams park the bus v arsenal so no space for him to run into.
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:35 pm

Unique wrote:not sure why arsenal would want a vardy type player. most teams park the bus v arsenal so no space for him to run into.


Because we don't want to play like that every single time and we don't. Welbeck, Perez, Sanchez even Ozil all play better in a counter attacking enviroment.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:51 pm

free_cat wrote:Not a bad comparison with the Spanish Vardy. Perez scores most of his goals at the counter with tons of space in front of him. And usually after a clearance or a defensive blunder. But he is not as fast as Vardy and he won't have that space at Arsenal. I can't see him succeeding.

Just think that Arsenal could have gotten Higuain or Suarez for much less thatn what they finally went if Wenger wasn't a cheapskate. Perhaps they even would have a PL title with one of them.... well probably not though. Laughing


Suarez? How? Where?
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:16 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Unique wrote:not sure why arsenal would want a vardy type player. most teams park the bus v arsenal so no space for him to run into.


Because we don't want to play like that every single time and we don't. Welbeck, Perez, Sanchez even Ozil all play better in a counter attacking enviroment.


How dare you speak sense in GS

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Post by Sri Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:17 pm

El Gunner wrote:
free_cat wrote:Not a bad comparison with the Spanish Vardy. Perez scores most of his goals at the counter with tons of space in front of him. And usually after a clearance or a defensive blunder. But he is not as fast as Vardy and he won't have that space at Arsenal. I can't see him succeeding.

Just think that Arsenal could have gotten Higuain or Suarez for much less thatn what they finally went if Wenger wasn't a cheapskate. Perhaps they even would have a PL title with one of them.... well probably not though. Laughing


Suarez? How? Where?


Bidding 40m+1, triggering a release clause which was met with a 'what are you smoking' jibe, indicates that Wenger is Scrooge of course.

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Post by Sri Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:18 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Glory wrote:Isnt he the Spanish Vardy? Seems legit to me if he is a player of similar mold.


Signing Vardy already was a stupid idea, it's even more stupid to then go "we can't get Vardy? Let's get the Spanish Vardy then".

Especially after hapring on forever how it's not enough just to buy players, but players that improve the team.


Exactly. We have so many players who have that same skillset and are so much better than Perez. Like Yaya Sanogo.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:59 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Unique wrote:not sure why arsenal would want a vardy type player. most teams park the bus v arsenal so no space for him to run into.


Because we don't want to play like that every single time and we don't. Welbeck, Perez, Sanchez even Ozil all play better in a counter attacking enviroment.


We all know that, the question does Wenger lol.
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Post by Gil Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:00 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Gil wrote:Been scouting Perez for several years. He's the real deal.


Here we go lads, I think we can decipher that he's a scrub imo.


Top player mate. Plays with a style very reminiscent of Jamie Vardy. Solid technically & has an eye for a pass.

Gives Arsenal a pacy option they haven't had for years.
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Post by S Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:06 pm

Is it just me that has been underwhelmed by EPL's supposed spending power ?

The way people were hyping up all that money they get from the TV deal, you would've thought some 4-5 clubs would be having blockbuster windows.

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Post by CBarca Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:13 pm

I don't have a citation for the claim, but I've heard 50% of English clubs have broken their transfer record this transfer window. Meanwhile United and City are having blockbuster windows, Liverpool and Chelsea arguably also. Spurs have a stadium to finance otherwise they probably would too. Middleborough had a blockbuster window for a club of their standing.

Agreed. Underwhelmed. I think every club should be breaking their transfer record or I'm not convinced they even have money.
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Post by S Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:21 pm

Well spending money is one thing. Spending it on absolute quality is another. You would've thought this would be an earth shattering window considering EPL clubs' fetish for star players, you would imagine more stars would've been signed than just Pogba and Zlatan. I feel a bit underwhelmed in that regard.

No need to act like such a douche about it though. It's just an opinion.
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Post by Firenze Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:31 pm

what star players are out there and obtainable? I can't think of many

which is why you see teams spending 30+m on younger less established players

can't think of a window that's more aptly shown just how much money is in the league than this
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Post by Gil Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:07 pm

The monopoly of the World's best players outside the PL are mostly at Madrid/Barca/Bayern/Juventus which are all for the most part unbuyable.

The alternatives are overpriced 2nd/3rd tier players which smaller clubs try to make a ransom off of because they know English clubs are wealthy. It's why one season wonder's like Koulibaly get a £60m fee slapped on their heads.
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