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Post by Donuts Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:52 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:Munir still hasn't played a poor game donuts. Sounds like a guilty till proven innocent stance. You're wrong. And 21 is pretty young.


are we talking about this season?? yeah sure sure he didn't play bad in the pre-season
and did average on supercup.

did nothing as a substitute in the first league

that doesn't warrant good praise.. his past two years has been bad.. not enough to be sold but bad.
and it's always the same story he starts the season good and his weak mentality lets him down in the second half of the season when we really need him. (injury or late sub to clinch a goal or assist)

the kid has 25 league games under his belt with 4 goals...  26 total games last season with 8 goals with service from two of msn he should have a lot more.

paco is much more superior so why is everyone fussing over the LOAN or buyback of munir.

30m for an international striker and someone who started for a first division team who is only 2 years older than munir is an amazing buy especially given todays market.

if munir went to sevilla, real sociedad, or any of those valencia type of teams he would be a substitute, no doubt about that... why do you think he wants to go to celta.. the trade off is good

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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:24 am

Munir is a better dribbler, passer, and creator then paco. I feel like logic is flying over your head. Munir had 20 minutes to do something, well no shit he didn't impress as a substitute

Most of his apps come from off the bench and he is much better on the wing then as a CF although he can play both unlike paco
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Post by Twoism Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:34 am

What's going on in this Barca section, suddenly Munir is beast and better than Paco. It's like people forget how their respective seasons went last year and only remember these couple of pre season friendly games. And Barca buy Paco to back up for Suarez and you left out scorer for such convinience, Arda is winger back up, not Paco or Munir.
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Post by Donuts Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:24 am

idk its a trend to hate almost every deal the board does

people hated bravo when we first got him, said he was worth 5m at most or some bullshit now everyone is upset we sold him for only 20m

munir isn't better than paco by any means, people are overhyping him so much.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:46 pm

Paco Alcacer will be a Barcelona player in the next few hours. Will be presented on Monday. [as]

After being out of the squad against Eibar, Paco Alcacer will travel to Barcelona tomorrow. [as]

Barça and Valencia owner Peter Lim have reached to an agreement for Paco Alcacér for 30m + 2m incentives. [@xavicampos]

Munir said yes to Celta Vigo but Valencia came in the last moment. [marca]

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Post by free_cat Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:51 pm

After signing the promising top 40th best midfielder in la Liga, the Top 10th best french left back, and a top 50th goalkeeper in Europe, all of them for a combined price that could have landed us Paul Pogba, we are now in for yet another blast of moral with the signing of a Top 15 strikers in la Liga, just behind Suarez, Benzema, Morata, Griezman, Bakambu, Borja Baston, Ruben Castro, Gameiro, Aduriz, El Arabi, Aspas and Agiretxe, the one and only Paco Alcacer, and just for another 1/4 of Paul Pogba.

Geniuses at work.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:29 pm

Dude you are mental. Get yourself checked no offense i'm just worried.

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Post by Myesyats Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:27 pm

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Post by Myesyats Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:29 pm

Apparently #PacoSisePuede whatever i dont know spanish

is trending on twitter

Meaning valencia fans are pissed because "Paco's talent will be wasted on barca's bench"


They are probably right hmm

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Post by danyjr Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:53 pm

free_cat wrote:After signing the promising top 40th best midfielder in la Liga, the Top 10th best french left back, and a top 50th goalkeeper in Europe, all of them for a combined price that could have landed us Paul Pogba, we are now in for yet another blast of moral with the signing of a Top 15 strikers in la Liga, just behind Suarez, Benzema, Morata, Griezman, Bakambu, Borja Baston, Ruben Castro, Gameiro, Aduriz, El Arabi, Aspas and Agiretxe, the one and only Paco Alcacer, and just for another 1/4 of Paul Pogba.

Geniuses at work.

slight exaggerations but I get what you're saying. A lot of money is wasted year after year but seriously Pogba?!
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:21 pm

And donuts you still fail to answer my question. How is paco better then munir in anyway besides the goals department? And munirs appearances come from subs for the most part. I don't get it. It's a waste of 30m. It's really stupid.

In addition, I thought barcas philosophy was to develop youngsters, not buy players like Turan, who by the way had WAY more awful games then munir has and he's way older.
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Post by Donuts Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:20 am

this munir hype is so ridiculous, all from a good preseason Laughing

munir isn't a better passer, isn't better at positioning, cant run behind defenders, is scared to dribble and very weak mentality.


pecking order
leftwing =  Neymar, Turan, Denis Suarez, Munir
rightwing = Messi, Rafinha, Munir
striker = Suarez, Munir Rafinha.

and get outta here we promote good youth players, and get rid of bad ones always have.
pique, alba, sergi roberto, buscuit, iniesta, messi all starters all from la masia

we're not going for 100% products and if they don't do well then they leave simple as that.
people think because we had a once in a generation top 5 players almost in every position that we'll never buy again...

pogba would of been a waste of money
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:04 am

You're not being fair. He's young and he's clearly busting his ass so the weak mentality is not tru. Again, you're judging him on flopping this year on a grand total of 20 minutes on the field. Poor.


Positioning, yes paco makes better runs but he's played much more so you can expect that. In my opinion yes, munir is a far better passer and he has exceptional ability on the ball. Your youngster argument is not valid, Enrique never plays youth compared to pep and I see him criticized here for it

I'll give you an example. We're hella excited for kovacic this year, he has bossed it ONLY this preseason and a game or two. He has shown clear improvement and I'd say munir has as well.
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Post by Donuts Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:16 am

i'm judging him based on his 2 years and 1 month with us, not 20 minutes, and certainly not in the preseason.

paco is better than munir in what we currently need, a BACKUP STRIKER...
he isn't better than arda turan / denis suarez / rafinha in the wing either so where does that leave him? out on loan where he will get more minutes to prove himself

barca was here before pep, never have we promoted so many youths with another manager to compare him to enrique is like saying why doesn't X youth player play like messi.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:50 am

The loan transfer of Munir El Haddadi to Valencia FC with €12M purchase option, includes no repurchase option for FC Barcelona [sport]

If true we're basically saying goodbye to Munir hmm Unless he plays like crap there but 12M, damn thats a great deal for Valencia.

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Post by Myesyats Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:21 pm

Barça have option to repurchase Munir El Haddadi for €16M if Valencia activate the €12M purchase option after one-season loan [md] #fcblive


Okay so its not a goodbye yet.

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Post by Myesyats Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:47 pm

Barca are interested in Croatian right back Darijo Srna (free agent) whose contract with Shakhtar has expired. [espn]

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Post by Harmonica Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:02 pm

Best transfer window I remember, happy with every player and how they have performed thus far. Only negative was Bravo-Cilessen but it was inevitable and we got good money from it.
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Post by messixaviesta Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:44 pm

Donuts wrote:idk its a trend to hate almost every deal the board does


Guilty as charged.

Like others I thought it was madness to purchase Suarez after the biting incident for such a huge amount and having to give away Sanchez. Instead that deal ended up shaping our entire future.

Bravo was hardly wanted by anyone at our forum. Today I feel bad seeing him go. The bottom line is that fans aren't the best judge of everything.

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Post by messixaviesta Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:34 pm

No threads on Bravo leaving and Cillesen coming? Is there some discussion in this thread itself? I haven't checked all the recent posts here.

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Post by Myesyats Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:25 pm

Not that big of a deal to create a separate thread imo

There's some posts about Cillessen on page 4 of this thread

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Post by Donuts Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:36 pm

it's a luxury to have 2 world class keepers..
and we honestly never really needed it, bravo hardly got injured in his two years here? i believe he missed like what.. 2 la liga games?

having a constant starter for la liga AND champions league is important, having a alright backup is nice as-well but someone who wont push for the starting role (but still adds small pressure)
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Post by Madvillain Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:26 pm

Jasper is good, no need to downtalk his ability. Only thing he's absolutely shit at is penalties. It's in his nature to keep his head down and work hard so he should prove a very nice back up keeper for us.

Ter Stegen is younger and has a higher ceiling. He should, and will, be no. 1.
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Post by CBarca Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:45 am

Wait what, people have a problem with the Paco buy?

Young, talented striker (Spain international) that is proven in La Liga playing well in a good team, and is bought to bring in a valuable depth and rotation option--that's basically what I've been asking for for a while. Do people really feel comfortable playing Munir against La Liga opposition the week of a CL game to keep the front three rested? He'll do alright but...I'm much more comfortable with Paco.

We can't even talk about money tbh. This market is whack. Paco is the money it requires for a good player like Paco
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Post by messixaviesta Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:47 pm

Myesyats wrote:Not that big of a deal to create a separate thread imo

There's some posts about Cillessen on page 4 of this thread


We have a convention of creating a thread for every single member of our squad. Anyway my main question was whether people here are at all concerned that we may miss Bravo's reliability or was it time for him to leave.

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Post by Myesyats Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:27 pm

Don't think we will miss him much. He was a good keeper, one to rely on, but comitted silly mistakes just like every other GK as well. One of Bravo & ter Stegen had to leave and the choice was obvious in the long run.

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