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Post by rincon on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:28 pm

What were our 2 bad seasons in Europe with Conte? The one were we hadn't been in CL for a couple of years, and then knocked out Chelsea, won our group and lost in the QF to the would-be champions Bayern was bad?

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Post by Warrior on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:39 pm

Ok maybe not "BAD"... more like "DAB" (an acronym for Decent At Best) What a Face

The year with Chelsea, Shakhtar, Nordsjealland we have struggles in group stage and and a easy path to QFs. Then we cease to exist in Munich.

The year with Galatasaray in snow was disappointing but at least we reach far in Europa League, for what's it worth.

It wasn't impressive because he didn't believe himself that we could be relevant in Champions League. Therefore failed to implement in players mind the same grinta that won us some championships in Italy.
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Post by urbaNRoots on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:46 pm

Even Arsene Wenger did well in the CL until facing champions like Barcelona, Bayern etc... doesn’t mean those campaigns were not underwhelming/mediocre.

Not questioning him as a manager but his CL campaigns have been crap with both Chelsea and Juventus and he keeps proving it this season again.
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Post by rincon on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:49 pm

The second one with that game in the snow was bad although we got to the semis of EL but the first one was good.

That was a very good Shaktar and the CL champions Chelsea. We topped the group. Then we beat Celtic convincingly 5-0.

We had no business beating Bayern at the time, it wasn't a surprising loss. The were fresh out of putting 7 past Barca and we were in our first CL season in a while.

I remember we conceded the first goal because of that 30 meter free kick from Alaba. Can't really account for that tactically. Matri-Quags had nothing to do vs the GOAT Bayern team.


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Post by M99 on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:50 pm

Decent At Best is the best rating you can give to losing 4-0 on aggregate in the quarter finals.

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Post by Warrior on Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:04 pm

So far Conte never achieved in Europe, if anything he was decent (at best) in 2012-2013. Still to me it was unsatisfying.

Someone will downgrade as a whole when the best parts of him are downgrading, not when the average parts of him are downgrading. Conte's best part is being a motivator, his average part is being a tactician. So he becomes worst when the motivator part in him is affected.

That's what we see in Europe, he stops believing, and this translates to the players. As an average tactician he cannot fix the problems soon enough.
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