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Post by sportsczy on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:08 pm

... and take Benzema with him.

Since Ronaldo has come back, we have absolutely no movement on the wing other than on Bale's side.  It makes us completely predictable as the opposition only needs to defend buildups coming from one side of the pitch.  

So you would think that, since Ronaldo plays CF 99.9% of thet time, he'd score a lot of goals and create a lot of opportunities?  Wrong.  His finishing has been pathetic.  What's worse... he doesn't make dummy runs to help his teammates so he does nothing for the offensive movement unless it's for his own personal gain.  Dummy runs are critical if you're a CF.  It's half the job.

Benzema, in his current form, is useless.  He should only come in as a sub until he's fit again.  If he never gets his fitness back, move him.  He can barely move out there.

With Bale/Morata/Vasquez, we had a lot of speed and a lot of movement. Now, we have statues other than Bale.

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Re: Ronaldo needs to go

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:13 pm

The first one who needs to go is Z, followed by that clueless, lazy, useless joke of a CF named Benzema.

Ronaldo needs to go as well, but those two need to go first.

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Post by Adit on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:14 pm

Take Zidane and Benzema with him.

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Post by terrance511 on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:29 pm

arent we in transfer ban?

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Post by guest7 on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:31 pm

What are you saying? Ronaldo had a MotM performance today. I'm not saying it was a spectacular performance, he was just better than everybody else.
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Post by titosantill on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:36 pm

i'm sorry sports, we are facing a transfer ban. at this point, the inmates run the asylum. zidane or florentino or both decided this was the best squad ever and have been against player-competition, so we didn't sign anyone, fell into a ban, and nobody's leaving at least not next summer. remember i said last week, that you can't keep starting someone (benzema) and force him to get back on form on the team's time, whilst we are dropping points. even in leagues where a draw isn't a crisis, that isn't done anywhere. we did that with raul and for some years it was like playing with 1 player less. sad thing about that is, i'm not a big fan of morata neither
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:37 pm

@guest7 wrote:What are you saying? Ronaldo had a MotM performance today. I'm not saying it was a spectacular performance, he was just better than everybody else.


but he couldn't criticize only Benzema. there had to be another guy Laughing

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Post by El Kommander on Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:50 pm

I thought big soccer was a terrible forum then I join this mad house! Cristiano has carried this team on his back and was the best player for us. Who do we have that can replace him? He was top goal scorer in the European cup last year, scored 50 goals once again, dragged us to the final and won us the game vs Barcelona at the Cam nou!

Too many ungrateful fans here. It's bordering on disgraceful. Most of you so called Madridistas need to look at yourselves in the mirror because the only reason I can think of that people hate the comandante is envy and bitter jealousy because of his life style and achievements. Fortunately for us, none of you have any say in how our club is run and Florentino knows who the golden goose is.
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Post by Donuts on Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:56 pm

don't forget his good looks, everyone is jealous of his good looks!
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:05 pm

I dont understand why he should go anywhere. We won the CL twice in the past 3 years, we matched the successive win record in la liga history, we are still undefeated and 1 point away from the first spot. CR is just fine Smile

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Re: Ronaldo needs to go

Post by sportsczy on Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:48 pm

Another straw man fallacy lol.  It's a GL specialty.

He's declining and won't accept an even slightly reduced role despite that, which is my point.  Real Madrid needs to build the attack around its best attacking player, which is now Bale imo.  Ronaldo will never go for that due to his ego.  If Ronaldo is willing to adapt his role to his current skills, I'm all for it.  But somehow I doubt he will.

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Re: Ronaldo needs to go

Post by El Kommander on Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:50 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Another straw man fallacy lol.  It's a GL specialty.

He's declining and won't accept an even slightly reduced role despite that, which is my point.  Real Madrid needs to build the attack around its best attacking player, which is now Bale imo.  Ronaldo will never go for that due to his ego.  If Ronaldo is willing to adapt his role to his current skills, I'm all for it.  But somehow I doubt he will.

He is declining yet he is the only one that can score. Benzema is awful and is bad for our image. He is lazy, fat and needs to go. Ronaldo is still not fully fit, when his fitness returns it's guaranteed 50 gaols minimum. What other player in history can give you such a guarantee? He is the greatest Goal scorer in the history of football and arguably the best in history.

@Donuts please worry about your village club and figure out why your bum club is being handed a 3-0 first half drubbing away at Celta. Let us worry about our club. Even in your clubs most dominant era, Madrid 'suffering' still have the most Champions league at 5. If you have nothing to contribute stay in your village Barcelona forum.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:02 pm

@El Kommander wrote:If you have nothing to contribute stay in your village Barcelona forum.

You have every right to disagree with him, but this is a public forum and everybody has the right to go to any section and comment.

Also, there was no need for you to insult his club. Barça is one of the biggest clubs in the world and they deserve more respect than that.

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Post by Claudio84 on Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:29 pm

He wasn't that bad today, Benzema was the worst player on the field today, I see Ronaldo has lost weight, he didn't play for 3 months, he will find his rhythm again

I think we should play one of our cbs as a DM while Casemiro is out, i will try Varane there he's the one who has better skillset for that task, Ramos was tried there and failed, Same goes for Pepe

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Post by guest7 on Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:22 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:
@El Kommander wrote:If you have nothing to contribute stay in your village Barcelona forum.

You have every right to disagree with him, but this is a public forum and everybody has the right to go to any section and comment.

Also, there was no need for you to insult his club. Barça is one of the biggest clubs in the world and they deserve more respect than that.


Barca deserves respect rofl

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Post by Doc on Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:38 pm

I agree with the Bale/Morata/Vasquez front 3. A LOT more mobility than those 2 aforementioned players. Also, Benzema really is dragging the flag a lot.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:17 pm

Benz is injured again Doc... knee acted up, which is why he left at halftime in the last game. He hasn't been healthy yet. I'm not sure why he's being played if he's not ready tbh. But Madrid has a history of doing this kind of thing.

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Post by Doc on Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:27 pm

Another injury, shit. He was already sluggish and now he is gonna need at least 1 month of football to be close to match fitness far less for form.

Madrid yes. For all the stupid form we are in, we're tied for 1st.

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Post by Curtinho on Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:37 pm

Even just moving Ronaldo to be a legit CF and having say someone like Vazquez or Asensio would probably make their attack much better. Still, as long as Ronaldo is in the team Bale will have a more reserved role and be stifled a bit. Too bad, he's wasting away his prime on a team that caters to Ronaldo (who is a great player, don't get me wrong). He should have stayed with Spurs or gone to a team that would have built around him. Watching him with Wales is a real treat.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:50 pm

1 goal in 20 shots... that CR in La Liga so far.  Also, he's been back for 7 games and we've won 3 and drawn 4 while scoring 1 goal less per game compared to before he returned.

I just don't like that we are forced to emphasize CR when he is not very good. It's one of the reasons we never win the league. He won't stand for anything other than complete dependence on him if he's on the pitch... so when he has a poor game, we're doomed. It's insane.

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Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:18 pm

Sure. Keep making excuses for the Benz. Ronaldo has been poor but benzema is our problem. Put CR or morata at CF, we'll play better instantly

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Post by Vibe on Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:05 pm

Most spoiled fans of all time Laughing

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:15 am

@Curtinho wrote:Even just moving Ronaldo to be a legit CF and having say someone like Vazquez or Asensio would probably make their attack much better. Still, as long as Ronaldo is in the team Bale will have a more reserved role and be stifled a bit. Too bad, he's wasting away his prime on a team that caters to Ronaldo (who is a great player, don't get me wrong). He should have stayed with Spurs or gone to a team that would have built around him. Watching him with Wales is a real treat.


This is why I want C. Ronaldo to be sold - not because he's not performing well, but because he forces the team to be built around him, despite not being on a level anymore, that warrants having the team built around him. It's not that he lacks talent or that he's not useful anymore, but his physical decline has resulted in him becoming a far less flexible player than he used to be. He's still an elite goalscorer, but not a player you want to build your team around when you have other players more capable of that task, already on the team. His goalscoring ability doesn't do much good, when the fact that the team is being built around him is making the team's attack stagnate and predictable.

I can't even imagine him ever being fine with sitting on the bench, even after he's far past his peak and is reduced to being a liability, so the ideal time to sell him would be before that time comes around. Of course, there's the argument that club legends deserve respect and tolerance etc etc, but I for one, am not convinced that he wants what's in the club's best interest. I don't think anything good will come out keeping him at the club until he feels he's ready to retire. Regardless, he's not the biggest issue the team has, at the moment, but if the club is ever going to profit from his sale and avoid future drama, now's the time to do so.

As for Benzema, I thought he was in fantastic form under Ancelotti when he was fit. When he does perform well, I think he's an absolutely superb player. However, his constant injury woes coupled with poor form and off the field shenanigans has turned him into a very unreliable player. I think we'd all prefer if he found form again and stayed fit, and it looks like we'll just have to hope that he does since we've got a lengthy transfer ban coming up.

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:42 am

Did these "players more capable for the task" step up and show that capability when Ronaldo wasn't available?

I guess I must have missed those games, lol.

I find the defense  / excuses of Benzema laughable. It's clearly obvious who is the problem with the front line. And of course, according to the "french agenda", there is to be no fault attributable to the coach.
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:19 am

@futbol_bill wrote:Did these "players more capable for the task" step up and show that capability when Ronaldo wasn't available?

I guess I must have missed those games, lol.

I find the defense  / excuses of Benzema laughable. It's clearly obvious who is the problem with the front line. And of course, according to the "french agenda", there is to be no fault attributable to the coach.


Are you saying that Bale is not a better fit for a player having the team built around over the longer term, because he didn't step it up during the few games where C. Ronaldo didn't play 90 minutes?

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