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Post by Firenze on Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:05 pm


Liverpool Vs Manchester United
Anfield
Monday 17th October
20:00 BST

Team News

A groin problem means Adam Lallana is set to miss out for Liverpool, along with Georginio Wijnaldum after he was injured playing for the Netherlands.

Defenders Nathaniel Clyne and Dejan Lovren are back in contention and fit-again Emre Can could make a first league start of the season.

Manchester United's Henrikh Mkhitaryan and defender Luke Shaw are fit for the trip to Anfield following injuries.

Phil Jones is the only player sidelined in an otherwise fully fit squad.

Match Stats (Fourfourtwo)


  • Liverpool have lost more Premier League matches (27) and also the most league matches (67) against Manchester United than versus any other opponent.
  • Liverpool have lost each of their last four Premier League clashes with Manchester United, their worst league losing streak against the Red Devils since March 2008 (five defeats).
  • Liverpool have lost their last two league meetings with Manchester United at Anfield; they last lost three home league games against United in January 2005.
  • This clash has seen 16 red cards shown in the Premier League, only Everton v Liverpool (21) has produced more dismissals.
  • Jurgen Klopp has lost just one of his five meetings with Jose Mourinho (W3 D1), with that defeat coming in 2013 via a 2-0 home win for Real Madrid v Dortmund in the Champions League semi-final second leg.
  • Since Jurgen Klopp was appointed as Liverpool manager in October 2015, the Reds have scored more goals than any other Premier League team (73) and have had the highest average possession figure (58.8%).
  • Juan Mata has had a hand in five goals in his last four appearances against Liverpool in the Premier League, scoring three and assisting two.
    Only Steven Gerrard (Cool has scored more goals in this Premier League fixture than Wayne Rooney (6 - level with Robbie Fowler).
  • Wayne Rooney currently has 87 Premier League away goals, the joint-most in the competition alongside Alan Shearer.
  • Manchester United had three points more at this stage last season under Louis Van Gaal (16) than they currently have after seven games of 2016-17 (13).
  • Zlatan Ibrahimovic hasn't scored in three league appearances – his worst run in league competition since January 2015 (four in a row for PSG).
  • Marcus Rashford has scored 12 goals since his debut for Man Utd on 25th February 2016 (all comps) – four more than any other player for Manchester
  • United in this period. It's also two more competitive goals than any player for Liverpool since his debut.
  • When Jurgen Klopp took charge of his first game for Liverpool in October 2015, Marcus Rashford had never made a first team appearance for Manchester United – only one reserve appearance for the club, two under-19 appearances and 45 appearances for their under-18 side.






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not looking forward to monday night tbh

think it will be rough
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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by Nishankly on Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:21 pm

Firenze wrote:not looking forward to monday night tbh

think it will be rough


for both teams
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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by RealGunner on Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:23 pm

Would be unreal for the neutrals
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Post by Nishankly on Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:50 pm

I think Pogba will finally prove he's 89m worth. Mourinho to throw his blazer into the Anfield crowd.
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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by Helmer on Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:03 pm

I am confident about us scoring loads and performing better than ManUtd but we all know Moutinho well and he will try every bit of his not to lose this one Laughing so considering our stupid defense it will be a 2-2 or 3-3

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Post by Helmer on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:01 pm

well the game at Anfield last season also went really well, in terms of our defending from open play. But then we again conceded from a corner or free kick (dont remember) Laughing so we will see how it goes this time.

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Post by Glory on Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:09 am

Firenze wrote:not looking forward to monday night tbh

think it will be rough


Me too. Not at all confident.
Anyway I will switch off the telly if I see either bog brush or fat wooney in the lineup. Wont sacrifice my sleep in that case. LivPul will dismantle us if any of those 2 start.

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mata-ibra-martial/rash

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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by Helmer on Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:25 am

Glory wrote:
Firenze wrote:not looking forward to monday night tbh

think it will be rough


Me too. Not at all confident.
Anyway I will switch off the telly if I see either bog brush or fat wooney in the lineup. Wont sacrifice my sleep in that case. LivPul will dismantle us if any of those 2 start.

Want this
ddg
val-smalling-bailly-shaw
blind
herrera-pog
mata-ibra-martial/rash


tbh that team looks as one among the top teams in EPL :coffee: it wont be an easy game for us at all !

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Post by Glory on Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:11 pm

It IS a good team. The thing is there is not enough understanding or chemistry between the players. and it will come back to hurt us against fiercely attacking teams like pool. It happened against city for their first goal when both bailly and blind went for the same ball and lost marking kdb. Our defense and midfield has every chance of panicking yet again when pool's in form attackers come at them. Individually they are good players. But you just need to find that understanding and coordination which will come with time I hope.
I will take a draw here and wont mind if Jose decides to park the bus too honestly and then will look to get full points in the match after this at Stamford Bridge (no offense chelsea fans).
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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by Don't call me James on Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:00 am

There's no way Man Utd are beating us at Anfield on Monday.

They've beaten us at Anfield 3 of the 4 years in the league in absolute garbage times for us during the season. Just absolutely no way players will don't show up this time.

We will show up at 100% and if we show up at 100% at Anfield there's no way they will beat us.

Draw is the only thing I'm worried about.

Brb Rooneh to come in on the 89th minute and score the winner off his ass.




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Post by RealGunner on Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:02 am

Can't wait man. Biggest United-Pool match since prime rafa-SAF days

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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by Art Morte on Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:01 am

So frigging stupid that game is on Monday.
Watching games on Sunday afternoon = awesome
Watching Monday night games = lame

Also don't remember have there ever been two as underwhelming matches on a Sunday as today.
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Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United - The Derby that can't be unseen

Post by Glory on Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:50 am

I see a similar match to the last years' EL 2nd leg semi final with pool winning 2-1 in the end. The individual brilliance of your front 3 will pull you guys through. A Coutinho worldie and a Bailly conceded penalty.

For us to get anything out of this main man Ander needs to step up. His calmness on the ball and movement is going to be vital and if he can draw 1 or 2 pool players who will be pressing like mad dogs from their position it will open up space for mata and pogba to work their magic.
And its bloody hightime we too get some rub of the green. We have been grossly unlucky this campaign when you compare with how things have been going for other big teams.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:14 pm

Art Morte wrote:So frigging stupid that game is on Monday.
Watching games on Sunday afternoon = awesome
Watching Monday night games = lame

Also don't remember have there ever been two as underwhelming matches on a Sunday as today.


I think the lame sunday has more to do with the CL on midweek. League wants their CL teams to get more rest.

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Post by Helmer on Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:39 pm

I think people are hyping too much about Mondays Red Day. I can get that Liverpool and ManUtd fans getting drawn to it. But other club supporters need to calm down. Because of Mourinho this game is going to be a tactical wankfest and then I can see everybody unnecessarily complaining.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:40 pm

Helmer wrote:I think people are hyping too much about Mondays Red Day. I can get that Liverpool and ManUtd fans getting drawn to it. But other club supporters need to calm down. Because of Mourinho this game is going to be a tactical wankfest and then I can see everybody unnecessarily complaining.


In fairness the big games have been good so far this season.

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Post by Nishankly on Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:15 pm

Mourinho rofl

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-v-manchester-united--12033598


Jose Mourinho’s mouth has got him into trouble again – with the Manchester United boss breaking rules over discussing referees ahead of matches.

Mourinho will be contacted by the Football Association after questioning whether it would be difficult for Anthony Taylor to have “a very good performance” when Liverpool host United on Monday night.

Taylor’s appointment is controversial with the official hailing from Greater Manchester town Altrincham, which is only seven miles from Old Trafford.

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp refused the opportunity to discuss the official and has avoided any debate over his appointment, which was queried by former referees’ chief Keith Hackett.

And while Mourinho only spoke briefly on the matter, it was enough to catch the attention of the FA, who in 2009 introduced a rule stipulating managers and players should not make pre-match comments about referees so not to potentially influence the official.


Mourinho said: “I think Mr Taylor is a very good referee but I think somebody with intention is putting such a pressure on him that I feel it will be difficult for him to have a very good performance.

“I have my view but I understood and I learned a lesson by being punished so many times for some words so I don’t want to say anything (more) about it.”


He says he learnt a lesson as well in the same interview, Still the FA might charge him looooooool
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Post by RealGunner on Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:20 pm

Matip: "We have been practising defending against long balls and crosses" Laughing

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Post by Kaladin on Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:23 pm

Klopp has gotten the better of Mou more times than not, he'll do it again tomorrow (unfortunately), it'll be a spectacle though, chat is needed
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Post by Sri on Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:56 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Helmer wrote:I think people are hyping too much about Mondays Red Day. I can get that Liverpool and ManUtd fans getting drawn to it. But other club supporters need to calm down. Because of Mourinho this game is going to be a tactical wankfest and then I can see everybody unnecessarily complaining.


In fairness the big games have been good so far this season.
Helms only wants lesser people to watch Klopp give Mou another hiding, he's being compassionate :coffee:
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Post by Unique on Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:35 pm

tomorrow nights game will be a big let down. not just because Liverpool will get beat by the back post header. but it wont live up to all the hype these games never do.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Unique wrote:tomorrow nights game will be a big let down. not just because Liverpool will get beat by the back post header. but it wont live up to all the hype these games never do.


more excited about this game than about any Bayern game this season so far ffs

I think it will be an exciting game, as Mole has already stated, big games this season have definitively lived up to the hype so far.
Which is also due to the fact that Klopp is a full action big game manager and Pep doesn't shy away from a spectacle either.

I fear though that tomorrow Liverpool's team will be too nervous to get a positive result

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Post by Unique on Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:47 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:tomorrow nights game will be a big let down. not just because Liverpool will get beat by the back post header. but it wont live up to all the hype these games never do.


more excited about this game than about any Bayern game this season so far ffs

I think it will be an exciting game, as Mole has already stated, big games this season have definitively lived up to the hype so far.
Which is also due to the fact that Klopp is a full action big game manager and Pep doesn't shy away from a spectacle either.

I fear though that tomorrow Liverpool's team will be too nervous to get a positive result
sadly I agree. Sad

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Post by Nishankly on Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:52 pm

We can't miss easy chances, We've been missing chances which literally deserve pay cuts up till now, Tomorrow there's no room for that.
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Post by Unique on Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:55 pm

how did Liverpool lose to burnley ffs. if we had won that we would be top Evil or Very Mad

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