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Post by CBarca on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:02 pm

To me it's not really worth analyzing past the incredibly obvious, Mata strays into space and Van Dijk is caught in absolute no mans land

Lovren should have stayed with him or should have motioned to Van Dijk to pick him up, sure. Can also probably could have caught up to him OR motioned to Van Dijk to pick him up, sure. I'm not absolving others of any guilt and putting it all on Van Dijk. Like I said, someone being that open in the box is a failure of multiple players. Can doesn't really do anything and Lovren gets caught between two minds because he has to watch the run of the United player closest to Alexis running to the endline.

The fact of the matter is that on the reciprocal, Van Dijk clearly didn't let anyone know he wasn't interested in picking Mata up and decided to stray into an area of the box with absolutely no danger while seeing Mata running into open space behind him where he just was Laughing

That area of the box is absolutely his responsibility and he abdicates it to cover no one in particular. It's schoolboy defending.

As bad as Lovren plays it in the picture, at least he is caught in a bad position having to pay attention to Mata and the cut to the endline. Van Dijk has one responsibility and could have gone with a BREXIT strategy like Ashley Williams or Chiellini and just stayed in his area in the box where there was potential for danger and cleared it since he's like 7 feet tall

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:20 pm

here is a few points for you. over this season you have said that vvd ( who is by far liverpools best defender ) is championship level so that would make the rest of liverpools defenders lge 2 quality. you have said the liverpool MF is championship quality. you have said that firmino is nothing more than a work donkey. also when liverpool did have coutinho you said he was nothing more that a guy who scores a long shot now and then. and on the flip side you tell us how poch is one of the best managers in the world. how kane is the best striker in the world. how erikson is the best no10 in the world. how your centre backs are the best pair in the prem lge. how your keeper is one of the best in england. how wanyama and dembele are the best DM players in england. so that begs the question. if you believe all of that how on gods green earth are spurs only 1 point infront of liverpool scratch i can only think of 2 things. one you are trolling or 2 you are a idiot. Laughing

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Post by CBarca on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:27 pm

the answer is simple, I haven't said most of those things Laughing

The only one of those I've said is that Firmino is a work donkey and I stand by that one.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:32 pm

@CBarca wrote:the answer is simple, I haven't said most of those things Laughing

The only one of those I've said is that Firmino is a work donkey and I stand by that one.
you spend to much time waaaatching nascar and drinking beeer cheers

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Post by Firenze on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:54 pm

CB stop wasting effort on this 80m Dutch Ashley Williams Laughing Liverpool fans will continue to defend him week in week out. Same as Firmino, not worth your time.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:57 pm

@Firenze wrote:CB stop wasting effort on this 80m Dutch Ashley Williams Laughing Liverpool fans will continue to defend him week in week out. Same as Firmino, not worth your time.
you 2 would make a great start if anyone wanted to make a human centipede rofl

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Post by CBarca on Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:31 pm

You're right tbh it's just fun to see how far they'll go

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Post by Luca on Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:35 pm

If your best defender this season has played only 8 games then I feel bad for you son, we got 99 problems but defence ain't one

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:39 pm

@Luca wrote:If your best defender this season has played only 8 games then I feel bad for you son, we got 99 problems but defence ain't one

tbh vvd is a very good player but out defence has been so bad at times this season that he is like putting a plaster on a dead man hoping it will give him life Laughing

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:07 pm

Imagine paying 80m € for this trainwreck of a player

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Post by iftikhar on Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:58 pm

hmm
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Post by BarcaLearning on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:01 pm

Peps fault for making him look good, sends crossing for Jesus to try to win vs this giant scratch Laughing
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Post by Unique on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:02 pm

tbh the improvment in our defending with vvd and robertson coming into the team is unreal. it is still our weak spot but the improvment is more then welcome

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Firenze on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:02 pm

I still don't rate him, he's very good in the air but besides that ehhh
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:08 pm

@Firenze wrote:I still don't rate him, he's very good in the air but besides that ehhh
but you have to admit he has improved us 10 fold.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:34 pm

@Unique wrote:
@Firenze wrote:I still don't rate him, he's very good in the air but besides that ehhh
but you have to admit he has improved us 10 fold.


Robertson has improved you tenfold.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:45 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Firenze wrote:I still don't rate him, he's very good in the air but besides that ehhh
but you have to admit he has improved us 10 fold.


Robertson has improved you tenfold.
agree. when we signed him for 8mil from hull i shit my pants tbh. i thought why have we signed a back up to the worst LB in the world but this guy has proved me wrong. how high do you rate him as a neutral.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:49 pm

I think he's fan *bleep* tastic, and with Mendy out all season easily the best left back in the league.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Unique on Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:57 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:I think he's fan *bleep* tastic, and with Mendy out all season easily the best left back in the league.
Thumbs up

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Post by Firenze on Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:59 pm

Hans 'neutral' when it comes to Pool my arse

they may as well be his boyhood club
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Post by Nishankly on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:11 am

Van Dijk is amazing, As much as fault he might be for the first goal which is contentious, It was him who broke everything aerially. All we need to do is replace Lovren with a decent CB who's good on the floor.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:15 am

must be so hard for a 6'4 defender to protect the box aerially against attackers who are barely 5'8.

lol

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Post by Unique on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:16 am

@Nishankly wrote:Van Dijk is amazing, As much as fault he might be for the first goal which is contentious, It was him who broke everything aerially. All we need to do is replace Lovren with a decent CB who's good on the floor.
Thumbs up Thumbs up also his passing is top notch

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Post by Unique on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:17 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:must be so hard for a 6'4 defender to protect the box aerially against attackers who are barely 5'8.

lol
you say that but a 6.3 lovren has lost more headers than frenzy on a stag night. Very Happy

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Doc on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:56 am

I've seen enough of this "defender" to say, without a shadow of a doubt (till he gets better) that he is an awful defender that Liverpool wasted money on. Don't @ me, don't quote me, just accept his mediocrity for what it is.

Out.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk watch: A new Hope?

Post by Nishankly on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:58 am

Can't when he's individually with his presence made us better. No way we would gotten anywhere with Klavan-Lovren or even Matip in these matches. Man's a tank.
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