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Post by Don't call me James on Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:16 pm

From one of the worst defenses in all of Europe to the best :bow: This with Lovren as his partner. Makeshift LB in Milner. Dodgy keepers in Karius/Mignolet. And Henderson as the DM giving him protection.

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Post by footyfan01 on Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:27 pm

Klopp's system makes it work. These guys will all fail outside Pool similar to Kagawa, Sahin etc.

Defense is mostly about defending as a unit & not as individually.

Also Matip is a clown IMO for a top team & it's good Schalke lost him. If Pool wants to win they should buy Van Dijk & hope Klavan & Lovren perform well.

Or you depend on Van Dijk to make Matip look good.

Liverpool fans are the most delusional bunch I have seen - There was this ridiculous guy in this forum arguing Pool doesn't need a Winger & a CB - I said those are the 1st things they need & should dip into the Winter Market & that is what they will probably be doing. In general Pool fans tend to ride the bandwagon & overestimate players

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Post by Don't call me James on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:00 pm

Laughing

You are by far the dumbest person I've met online, ever.



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Post by zigra on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:03 pm

The Matip Effect Lmao

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Post by Don't call me James on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:06 pm

The image I posted are ACTUAL stats.

The image you posted are some stupid subjective ratings.


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Post by CBarca on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:07 pm

Request to moderators to rename this the 'ARRY KANE thread

Because as far as I can see, he's the top rated player in the GOAT league

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Post by zigra on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:10 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:The image I posted are ACTUAL stats.

The image you posted are some stupid subjective ratings.

unreal disrespect. They are completely objective and use all them stats.

@CBarca wrote:Request to moderators to rename this the 'ARRY KANE thread

Because as far as I can see, he's the top rated player in the GOAT league
Top rated when you don't take the 60 better rated players into account hmm
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Post by CBarca on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:12 pm

My vision is amiss

I'll rephrase: Request to moderateors to rename this the 'ARRY KANE thread, because as far as I can see, he's a better defender than Matip in the GOAT league

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Post by Doc on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:33 pm

I wouldn't call Liverpool's newly found defensive ways to be down to one player but I would be very disingenuous to say he hasn't been an integral part of it. That being said, if I have to give any credit to said defensive solidity, it would be to Klopp. Footyfan maybe correct in what he wrote in that respect.

I can say, without fear or favour, that if it were Brendan still running things, those very same defenders would have been on McAgger's shit list.

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Post by RealGunner on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:36 pm

Liverpool also have the 2nd most possession in the PL (Just a bit behind City)


Who would have thought having more possession means opposition will have less shots? Uncanny.

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Post by Don't call me James on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:40 pm

I don't disagree that Klopp is the real MVP. But we conceded 50 goals last season with Klopp and again started this season horribly defensively. But the second that Matip has stepped into the pitch it's all been rosy. I don't need glasses to tell me that Matip is the main reason why we the change in fortune happened.

He's the best defender in the league and one of the best in the world (probably the best).

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Post by El Gunner on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:47 pm

We actually have the shared most shots per goal amongst the top 6 team?
Weren't we supposed to be shit in that so far this season hmm

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Post by RealGunner on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:52 pm

We are shit either way.
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Post by El Gunner on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:54 pm

@RealGunner wrote:We are shit either way.

Which means the other teams are more shit than us, making us the least shit team hmm

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Post by Nishankly on Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:58 pm

@El Gunner wrote:We actually have the shared most shots per goal amongst the top 6 team?
Weren't we supposed to be shit in that so far this season hmm


What?

Arsenal have like 13 shots per game, Liverpool have around 18.
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Post by El Gunner on Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:08 pm

Oh sorry that pic RG posted above is for the defensive table only, meaning we have actually conceded the joint-most shot attempts amongst the top 6 teams Laughing

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:13 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:Laughing

You are by far the dumbest person I've met online, ever.




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Is this kind of stuff ok on here these days?

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Post by Cruijf on Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:22 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:I don't disagree that Klopp is the real MVP. But we conceded 50 goals last season with Klopp and again started this season horribly defensively. But the second that Matip has stepped into the pitch it's all been rosy. I don't need glasses to tell me that Matip is the main reason why we the change in fortune happened.

He's the best defender in the league and one of the best in the world (probably the best).


Laughing

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Post by Kick on Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:42 pm

Enough with the insults, lads.

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Post by footyfan01 on Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:18 am

I have seen so many Bayern force over the years tinkering with formations, Dante seeming like a Superhuman under Jupp & then fading.

Was Dante the reason for Bayern's defensive stability or Jupp's system in which even Robbery put huge defensive work?

Pool fans really have a ridiculous discussion. I have seen Matip for years & I mean god damn many years since he was a Schalke youth. He is an average defender IMO but not bad, probably better than Klavan & Lovren, nothing exceptional.

Let us give Klopp full credit for turning Pool into a strong defensive unit without major financial spending!

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Post by Sri on Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:50 am

@Kick wrote:Enough with the insults, lads.
I see you have your RedO cap on. Spoilsport. Hmpf!
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Post by Unique on Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:03 am

@footyfan01 wrote:I have seen so many Bayern force over the years tinkering with formations, Dante seeming like a Superhuman under Jupp & then fading.

Was Dante the reason for Bayern's defensive stability or Jupp's system in which even Robbery put huge defensive work?

Pool fans really have a ridiculous discussion. I have seen Matip for years & I mean god damn many years since he was a Schalke youth. He is an average defender IMO but not bad, probably better than Klavan & Lovren, nothing exceptional.

Let us give Klopp full credit for turning Pool into a strong defensive unit without major financial spending!
not sure if serious scratch

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Post by Helmer on Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:39 am

Liverpool's DEFENCE have created 37 chances this season, more than any teams ATTACK other than Man City, Man Utd & Everton [OPTA] #LFC

Found it on twitter but did not check if it is correct ! We play Peps football better than Peps own team :coffee:

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Post by Unique on Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:05 pm

@Helmer wrote:
Liverpool's DEFENCE have created 37 chances this season, more than any teams ATTACK other than Man City, Man Utd & Everton [OPTA] #LFC

Found it on twitter but did not check if it is correct ! We play Peps football better than Peps own team :coffee:
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Post by Don't call me James on Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:48 pm

Mostly due to Milner and Clyne, who are far away the top 2 offensive fullbacks in the league in terms of production and chance creation. I can't find the picture that was on MOTD a few weeks back but it's insane how much more offensive production they give than other fullbacks.

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