Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

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Post by RealGunner on Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:15 pm

Arsene at his worst is still ahead of Mou in the table



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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Firenze on Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:18 pm

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Post by Lucifer on Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:21 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Arsene at his worst is still ahead of Mou in the table



That's totally due to the fact that United are less of a team and more of a squad of mercineries, a very bad ones but still mercineries.
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Kaladin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:04 pm


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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by rincon on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:26 pm

Top comment on that youtube video

"If Wenger stays Robbie will be in the Forbes list"

Laughing

Have to say I like the guy, and the video. Well spoken and I agree on pretty much everything he said.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:34 pm

Time to get roofless!

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Doc on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:45 pm

Actually, that is probably the most mature video I've seen on ArsenalTV. Like mad scientist Rincon, agree with his views.

Wenger shouldn't stay though.

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Lord Spencer on Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:58 pm

20 year from now, Wenger will still be remembered. Mostly as a character when remembering SAF, but will still be remembered. And that memory is what constitutes being "legendary".

Its not only about success (how many trophies did Totti win?), but about a wide range of achievements, qualities, and other usually intangible things that separate the ordinarily successful from the "legends".

Its why Sacchi is considered a legend despite his short term career, and why Capello would be forgotten despite his more successful one.

On Wenger's current situation: From a business point of view, Wenger is the safest and best option for Arsenal. Any other coach, and they would have to take some serious risk. From a trophy point of view, Wenger won't be able to win anything substantial in his remaining years.

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Post by Firenze on Sat May 27, 2017 6:05 pm

Legend. Joint with United on most trophies won post Fergie. He's still a winner and proving it 20 years later. Honestly, the team let him down this season as did a lot of the supporters. Give the man a budget and help with transfers and cap it off with a 3 year extension IMO
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat May 27, 2017 6:08 pm

@Firenze wrote:Legend. Joint with United on most trophies won post Fergie. He's still a winner and proving it 20 years later. Honestly, the team let him down this season as did a lot of the supporters. Give the man a budget and help with transfers and cap it off with a 3 year extension IMO
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Post by Firenze on Sat May 27, 2017 6:09 pm

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Kaladin on Sat May 27, 2017 6:24 pm

He's silenced his doubters, absolute legend and icon for Arsenal, can't believe some of these disgraceful Arsenal fans want him out. As if they were relevant before he came in, have respect for the guy who made you something. Hopefully they show him the proper respect and allow him to continue his work.

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Post by BarcaLearning on Sat May 27, 2017 6:29 pm

Curse in disguise for Arsenal, Wegner has an excuse to stay now Razz

This game showed limitation of Chelsea though, still get the feeling that arent THAT great a team... Conte needs to upgrade with some new players in the summer if they want to retain the title.
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Firenze on Sat May 27, 2017 6:32 pm

won the FA Cup the most times in history for a manager, this win means Arsenal have won the FA Cup a record amount of times

change title to specialist is winning
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Post by urbaNRoots on Sat May 27, 2017 6:35 pm

He did a great job to set up the team for the final apart from one decision (starting Ospina over Cech for I assume sentimental reasons).

Still hope this was his last game for Arsenal, if he wants to continue football elsewhere he's welcome to do it.
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Doc on Sat May 27, 2017 6:57 pm

Incredible how a cup trophy can actually mask an entire season of mediocre performances from both manager and his players. However, today Wenger got his lads to play immense and the players actually followed suit.

Well done to him.

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by Lord Awesome on Sat May 27, 2017 8:34 pm

Wouldn't really call 5th place mediocre. PL is just too competitive especially these days. Big teams everywhere.

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by El Gunner on Sat May 27, 2017 10:48 pm

@Lord Awesome wrote:Wouldn't really call 5th place mediocre. PL is just too competitive especially these days. Big teams everywhere.

TBF we've been dreadful since the turn of the year for our own standards, except for 3 or 4 games, including today.

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by RealGunner on Sat May 27, 2017 10:56 pm

Tbh I think we have the best squad in the league.

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by BarcaLearning on Sun May 28, 2017 6:39 pm

Funny to see after an FA cup win, so many suddenly rate Arsenal now, typical Very Happy
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by footyfan01 on Mon May 29, 2017 6:06 am

So Wenger isn't a specialist in failure anymore? Europe League Winner 2018?

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Post by guest7 on Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:31 pm

Am I the only one who thinks it's not Wenger's fault they are losing? Just the quality of the players make it harder to reach any higher level
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:39 pm

@guest7 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it's not Wenger's fault they are losing? Just the quality of the players make it harder to reach any higher level


Yes you are.
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by CBarca on Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:43 pm

Wenger makes the player decisions lol

And you see the way they play? It's absolutely all on Wenger.

He's far past it, everyone knows it. Needs to get out now, but he should have been out years ago for Arsenal's benefit. He's a legend, but there is no doubting that he needs to go

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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by rincon on Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:47 pm

@guest7 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it's not Wenger's fault they are losing? Just the quality of the players make it harder to reach any higher level


yes
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Re: Can we admit that Wenger is a specialist in failure?

Post by boyzis on Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:59 pm

i think the champions league final lost against Barcelona made wenger loose his mind. he trying to copy Barcelona style of play but can't..
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