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Post by rincon on Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:03 am

He has only had some 20 games so who really knows what his best is. He plays centre or right in the Roma's 4-2-3-1 right now. He is an actual midfielder though, not a forward, tall as well, so it seems like he should have no problems in a midfield 3.

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Post by adun101 on Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:13 pm

@rincon wrote:Zaniolo is out of reach, at least for a few years.

If you mean financially, then no. If you go by Paratici's piece of paper, he's worth 40 now. If he keeps playing like this, he will be 60 in the summer and 100 the next summer.

Other than that, it feels a little early for him to be a starter for Juve, but that can also be just the way that we're used to things in Serie A
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Post by adun101 on Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:26 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:What is Zaniolo's natural position? Behind the striker or further deep in midfield like a number 8/box to box?
@Mr Nick09 wrote:What is Zaniolo's natural position? Behind the striker or further deep in midfield like a number 8/box to box?


From what I've seen, somewhere in between. He's almost a 10, but he also likes to press, even if he tends to get clumsy with his tackles. Kid has energy, so far it's too early to say if he just likes to burn calories like all kids, if he tries to impress the coach or if that's just the way he is. Hopefully, the latter.

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Post by rincon on Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:36 pm

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@rincon wrote:Zaniolo is out of reach, at least for a few years.

If you mean financially, then no. If you go by Paratici's piece of paper, he's worth 40 now. If he keeps playing like this, he will be 60 in the summer and 100 the next summer.

Other than that, it feels a little early for him to be a starter for Juve, but that can also be just the way that we're used to things in Serie A

Of course he isn't out of reach financially. I meant because he just joined Roma and is only starting his career.

Roma will not want to sell him to us. He is only coming if he forces a move, and I don't think a 19yo, in his first season in A, will force out of a starter position in Roma to come to Juve.
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Post by Arquitescu on Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:21 pm

Zaniolo is hard to gauge as a player.

He plays like someone of a small stature of with a high centre of gravity but most end up shocked to find out he is 6'3 and a half.

When he is deep he seems completely at home there in his turn of pace, distribution and of course interceptions;

When he is advanced he rolls off the oppositions tackles as if he thrives in such positions and then drifts out wide as if it is within his natural inclination.

And then within the box he pounces on stray balls like a natural born striker.

Not to mention how he performs in the highest pressure situations, let alone AS Roma, a nightmare of a club to play in based on the hot and cold support and its politics.

Coaching him will be a complicated situation given within the next 2 years will determine on whether he is used as a tactical piece of allowed to bloom into the resounding talent he is.

Hoping to God he does not jump to Juve and more so stays within Roma.

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Post by McLewis on Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:42 pm

If it helps, I believe EDF sees him ultimately as a mezz'ala, though he's quite comfortable as a trequartista as well. Definitely not a striker or winger though.
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Post by Arquitescu on Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:44 pm

No no not implying that he ever should be but more so commenting on how he looks alarmingly comfortable in each quadrants of the pitch despite not being optimal.

Mezz'ala is easily his finest position given his penchant to make runs and that is where his finest moments are unlocked, whilst Trequartista would rather limit him unless he is used more as a spearhead in attack.

Huge huge asset for any coach to him and EDF is undoubtedly smart enough to grow his talent.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:09 pm

By the way, if you go anywhere near Zaniolo, Roma will ask you over 100 million. You have to wait for him to 1) run his contract down to a year 2) play so good that spending the money is a no brainer no matter how much it is

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Post by adun101 on Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:15 pm

@rincon wrote:
Of course he isn't out of reach financially. I meant because he just joined Roma and is only starting his career.

Roma will not want to sell him to us. He is only coming if he forces a move, and I don't think a 19yo, in his first season in A, will force out of a starter position in Roma to come to Juve.


While I'd love for Juve to get him, I'm fine if he stays at Roma or in Italy. What I don't want is for him to leave Italy or go to Inter and the problem is Roma are a selling club and they will be until they finish their stadium, which, thank God, was approved this week. So, fuck them and all this "we don't sell to Juve" bullshit. Italian clubs are stupid, like when we bought Higuain, they all went and put clauses in contracts that could be triggered only by non-Italians clubs. Dumbest shit ever, like they thought they were competing with Juve.

EDIT Forgot to add that he's a Juventino, supposedly. Maybe that would help with this "not to Juve" crap.


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Post by adun101 on Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:23 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:By the way, if you go anywhere near Zaniolo, Roma will ask you over 100 million. You have to wait for him to 1) run his contract down to a year 2) play so good that spending the money is a no brainer no matter how much it is


Well, yeah, if you go right now, but he will have his regressing moments and 100 is a bit too much for a kid who was an unknown until his first start, which was only in November.  At the same time, Brescia rejected a 29 mil offer for Tonali who only played in Serie B, so who knows.

Btw, he's tall, had some incredible plays and his name starts with Z, so you can guess with whom I've heard him compared, not once but in two places.

P.S. Roma offered him an extension, but only for 1.5 mil which his agent turned down. I don't know how you can then go and ask 100 for him if you value him that low.
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Post by rincon on Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:36 pm

Nah he is not 100m. Roma got him for cheap in the summer, any big transfer out will be mostly profit. Roma isnt Napoli, they will sell to us fairly even if it's not their first choice. They aren't in a position to deny huge sums of money for their players, remember Salah, Alisson, Rudiger, Emerson, etc. going back to Vucinic, or Cassano if we'll go that far. Only reason why I dont think that it will be done is because he is Italian, and Roma fans care about that. He isnt Roman though, and he is/was a juventino (well documented in social media), so there is a chance that he forces a move, but not right now.

There is a lot of hype for Zaniolo but maybe 40m worth of hype up to now, moving forward it can change.
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Post by RealGunner on Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:20 pm

Historic moment as James gets his first assist of the season

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Post by Kaladin on Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:53 pm

Guys is fucking trash, pack it up and send him to Colombia

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Post by RealGunner on Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:55 pm

Surprises me when people still rate him.
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Post by Firenze on Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:59 pm

Destined for a mid table PL club

can't wait to sign him
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Post by Arquitescu on Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:02 pm

Living off a few hit n' hope goals from a World Cup (a now known cesspool of just lower tier Football).


One cannot expect much from a player who wasn't even that good in the first place as it is.

The whole Columbian hype train earlier this decade, finished as fast as it began.

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Post by Doc on Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:15 pm

Yeah, he might as well retire at this point.

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Post by adun101 on Thu May 02, 2019 11:46 pm

@Arquitescu wrote:Living off a few hit n' hope goals from a World Cup (a now known cesspool of just lower tier Football).


One cannot expect much from a player who wasn't even that good in the first place as it is.

The whole Columbian hype train earlier this decade, finished as fast as it began.


Secco was right when he passed on him. He was an underrated genius that we let go too soon.
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Post by Firenze on Thu May 02, 2019 11:58 pm

can see him at Juve for like 20M to replace Dybala

them or Wolves

inb4 we sign him for 50m


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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri May 03, 2019 12:00 am

50 mil is an excellent price for James he is an excellent player

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Post by Firenze on Fri May 03, 2019 12:06 am

not even worth 50 million yen fella

he's an upgrade on Isco and Asensio though so I'm sure Zidane will accommodate him
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri May 03, 2019 12:25 am

In open competition Isco toasted his ass and sent him on loan for 2 years so no lol

Isco-Modric-Kroos-James was the most glorious of midfields though, too bad it did not last

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