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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:11 am

I think the qualitative differences between instances of the statistical category "chance" are too vast to use that stat for anything meaningful tbh.
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Post by S Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:16 am

If they had HiguaĆ­n, they would be challenging for the league right now IMO. One of the most clinical finishers in the game.
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Post by Lucifer Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:26 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
ES wrote:And then you'll see Arsenal fans celebrate as if they won back to back CL's


That's a gross distortion of reality. That's not at all how Arsenal fans behave.

If anything, the negativity, resignation or gallows humour present in most of Arsenal fans' views on their club is in a stark misrelation to their average rate of success.

It's clubs like Spurs, Liverpool and United for whose fans finishing 4th is an earth shattering, celebration worthy achievement.

Arsenal fans take it for granted.

Couldn't agree more.

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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:27 am

Disagree. Higuain is a known choke artist in big games. And every game in this league is like a cup final.
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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:29 am

this is the worst Arsenal side in a decade + IMO. If Wenger clinches CL AGAIN, give him a new contract.
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Post by Lucifer Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:31 am

Firenze wrote:Disagree. Higuain is a known choke artist in big games. And every game in this league is like a cup final.

That's the only type of finals Mule league teams are playing nowadays anyway.

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Post by Luca Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:32 am

Firenze wrote:Disagree. Higuain is a known choke artist in big games. And every game in this league is like a cup final.


Do they give out 6th place trophies in the goat league?
Seems sort of like a participation ribbon, like 'hey, you guys tried'
But we've always known ya'll to be very good triers

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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:34 am

speaking of cup finals, can't wait to finish 8th in the league and qualify for CL by winning the EL :bow:
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Post by rincon Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:35 am

I like how @Firenze has actually given up in trying to big up his own team like he used to. He realized they play like shit, so he resorted to hyping the league instead. Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:35 am

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Post by Nishankly Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:39 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Agree with Surag tbh lol, when it consistently happens it's not luck it's bad finishing.

I remember having the same argument with Pool fans during that one season they hit the bar 30 times. hmm

It's bad finishing not luck.


97 times over 4 seasons, 40 in one season.

If i remember correctly, These Firenze excuses are peasant infront of that.
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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:50 am

rincon wrote:I like how @Firenze has actually given up in trying to big up his own team like he used to. He realized they play like shit, so he resorted to hyping the league instead. Laughing


I've always hyped the league, but lately especially, I've realized just how insanely competitive it is, there are no easy games, at least not until Newcastle get promoted again :coffee:

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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:54 am

I mean you have top 5 dead or alive Juve forward Llorente playing for relegation fodder now, the same with top 5 Barca player ever Valdes..Negredo, etc

teams are freakin' stacked from top to bottom, it's insane
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:55 am

You couldn't even beat us when Steve McClaren was in charge ffs rofl

Calma pls.
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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:56 am

McClaren is a champion. No shame in that tbh.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:11 pm

Firenze wrote:this is the worst Arsenal side in a decade + IMO. If Wenger clinches CL AGAIN, give him a new contract.


It's really not. It's probably the best Arsenal side in a decade.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:15 pm

Yep Wenger is massively underperforming.

In fact he's not performing any better than he was with the like of Denilson etc etc lmao.

He's still a good to great coach but that isn't enough at this level.
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Post by Firenze Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:17 pm

IDK. I feel like there are a lot of pretenders in this Arsenal side. Only player that is performing at a level that would get into any of the other starting 11 for the teams in the top 4 would be Alexis.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:19 pm

I feel like you feel that because Wenger isn't getting the best from them though.

The fact he's not doing any better than before he had Sanchez, Ozil etc etc says it all IMO.

He's the Vince of football tbh, i feel like Pochettino, Klopp, Conte and Pep would all get more from this side than Wenger is currently getting.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:36 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I feel like you feel that because Wenger isn't getting the best from them though.

The fact he's not doing any better than before he had Sanchez, Ozil etc etc says it all IMO.

He's the Vince of football tbh, i feel like Pochettino, Klopp, Conte and Pep would all get more from this side than Wenger is currently getting.


I think you are a bit confused here.
Let's keep things apart here.
One main criticism towards Wenger is that he's too stingy and not bold enough building a team. Pep, Conte, Klopp, Poch, Mourinho all have all the means they can wish for to build a team. But they still are behind Wenger (excluding Conte of course who's has clearly outperformed every other PL manager this season).

Yes, Arsenal's team is pretty good these days. That doesn't mean Wenger is 'vastly underperforming'. Last season the team finished above everyone else, excluding the Leicester fairy tale.
They are 3rd at the moment, on points with 2nd.
And their team is surely not much stronger than those of their competitors. I'd argue it is slightly stronger than Spurs and Pool's, but so far the results (i.e. last season finish) reflect that. He's clearly outperformed van Gaal, now Mourinho. Arguably Pep too so far. United and City have far more expensive teams.
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Post by M99 Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:56 pm

So our very own Rebs was interviewed on Spanish TV about Man Utd's season.

http://captiongenerator.com/342252/Rebano-Sagrado-interviewed-on-Man-Utd
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Post by S Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:03 pm

M99 wrote:So our very own Rebs was interviewed on Spanish TV about Man Utd's season.

http://captiongenerator.com/342252/Rebano-Sagrado-interviewed-on-Man-Utd


roflroflrofl

F*cking brilliant stuff ffs


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Post by rincon Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:03 pm

LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Post of the year FFS :bow: :bow:

That spanish guy will never stop being funny
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:09 pm

ffs I'm dying

my belly hurts

can't stop laughing


rofl rofl :rofH.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:30 pm

I dont even understand spanish but ffs rofl

That laugh and those teeth ffs rofl rofl
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