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Post by gnrfan Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:36 pm

This is something I've noticed since the 2012 season. Messi's workrate has declined steadily to the point where, when his team cannot get the ball to his feet consistently, he becomes invisible. Barca is a team which is rarely not in control of the football so we do not see performances like tonight often, but we've seen this regularly when argentina plays a strong organized team(wc final, copa 2015). When his team can supply him his talent makes him the greatest end product man in football(maybe of all time), but when they can't...atrocious performances.
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Post by Kaladin Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:41 pm

Finally a Barca fan who has the cojones to tell it how it is

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Post by jibers Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:42 pm

gnrfan wrote:This is something I've noticed since the 2012 season. Messi's workrate has declined steadily to the point where, when his team cannot get the ball to his feet consistently, he becomes invisible. Barca is a team which is rarely not in control of the football so we do not see performances like tonight often, but we've seen this regularly when argentina plays a strong organized team(wc final, copa 2015). When his team can supply him his talent makes him the greatest end product man in football(maybe of all time), but when they can't...atrocious performances.


low energy? You mean lazy.and it wasn't since 2012. 2012 he barely ran as well but he was central and had 1 player behind, and 2 hard workinf wingers. People need to stop beating around the bush. Even in attacking phases when he could make a run to open up possibilities he just walks and waits. Neymar had 2 chances tonight where a Messi diagonal run could have helped him to either try a 1 on 1 or play either Messi or SUarez in but Messi just waitied in the centre.

Every other GOAt on his level worked hard. He is so lazy and you can't be that way when you force your entire mf to be open to compensate for your positioning. It would be okay if he wa still a false 9 but he is false 7 now and so that space is killing the team. Suarez is having to run too much and even he is looking exhausted. Such a a waste of talent with that front 3.


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Post by Winter is Coming Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:43 pm

I for one am willing to offer a trade to Man City, Messi + Harmonica for Pep.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:57 pm

Problem isn't Messi's energy level, it's Barcelonas quality level. Messi needs to carry Barcelona in every game if they are to stay a float, which is why he plays as so. That's why Messi gave ultimatum for Barcelona, either fix the team so he doesn't have to get the ball from Stegen and put it in the goal at the other end, or he isn't renewing at them. Which is fine for me.
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Post by Liqay Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:26 pm

True except few months in 2015 season.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:32 am

Harmonica wrote:Problem isn't Messi's energy level, it's Barcelonas quality level. Messi needs to carry Barcelona in every game if they are to stay a float, which is why he plays as so. That's why Messi gave ultimatum for Barcelona, either fix the team so he doesn't have to get the ball from Stegen and put it in the goal at the other end, or he isn't renewing at them. Which is fine for me.


Thats insane when he is playing next to the best Striker on earth.

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Post by Myesyats Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:44 am

So Messi just said he's been suffering from Pubalgia which is "a syndrome characterized by chronic groin pain in athletes and a dilated superficial ring of the inguinal canal."

IDK why I've never heard about this earlier.... So this is why he hasn't been running a lot these past few years. Hard to run if you have constant groin pain.

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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:56 pm

Sports hernias are what theyre called @myestats... they are an absolute bitch. Benzema had one which sapped a lot of his speed when he first came to Madrid. I personally have suffered that injury, and the only thing that helps is time.. lots of time.

If what you're saying is true, then i wouldn't be surprised to see him walking so much. They are very painful and effect every movement you do.
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Post by alexjanosik Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:11 pm

Myesyats wrote:So Messi just said he's been suffering from Pubalgia which is "a syndrome characterized by chronic groin pain in athletes and a dilated superficial ring of the inguinal canal."

IDK why I've never heard about this earlier.... So this is why he hasn't been running a lot these past few years. Hard to run if you have constant groin pain.


Do we know he has been suffering from this for 7 years? Cause thats how long he has been walking. And if rest is an issue, then he can take matches off like other players do. But if he plays, he should run.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:37 pm

He just said "I've had pubalgia since before december", so a matter of months not years.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:42 pm

he needs to get rid of it ASAP or his ability will suffer big time. it is a nasty injury to have
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:18 pm

It's the same injury that basically finished Kaka's career.
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Post by danyjr Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:18 pm

I used to get a lot of groin injuries during football. Warming up/down and stretches helped to a point but what made the whole thing disappear was doing leg days at the gym. Never had a problem since.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:52 am

David Beckham has probed Messi to join his club in Miami. Beckham wants to have the Argentine badly. The economic figures would be brutal, according to Messi's entourage. [cat radio]

Messis contrat allows him to leave after every season

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Post by Arquitecto Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:45 pm

No way in Messi is joining a no name trash club in USA let alone MLS which is embarrassing in its own right given what they make it out to be, compared to what it is. Would be severely disappointing if he does but stellar ambition and enterprising for Becks to hope for it.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:27 am

Myesyats wrote:David Beckham has probed Messi to join his club in Miami. Beckham wants to have the Argentine badly. The economic figures would be brutal, according to Messi's entourage. [cat radio]

Messis contrat allows him to leave after every season
Messi still has years left of top football, no point.
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Post by futbol Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:44 pm

2 years tops, he is 32 now. There is no way he will be effective at 35 when it was already difficult to build a system around him at 30 where RB, RCM and ST had to do very specific things to make up for his lack of off the ball movement and nonexistent pressing/defense.

In Lol Liga he could be effective until 40 though.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 pm

Very good use of the "Sad!" expression in the thread subtitle tbf
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