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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:46 pm

Under Carlo Kroos was good for a couple of month and then he became crap later during the year.

In the second phase of the year, he is always struggly with fitness it seems.

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Post by jibers on Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:52 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Under Carlo Kroos was good for a couple of month and then he became crap later during the year.

In the second phase of the year, he is always struggly with fitness it seems.


I was talking more about th double pivote with Modric and they moved as a unit. Thats when you had that great run. Kroos can't be isolated, he does not have the physical attributes for it.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:59 pm

Modric is in there Jibers... it is a double pivot.  He just can't do it. He trolled everyone into believing he could do it for 4 month early in Carlo's tenure and he's been horrible at it since. He only functions in a 3 man midfield where he's not the lowest playing one. He recovers literally zero balls and never tracks other CMs who attack.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:06 pm

Other this is that other than Isco and Marcelo, nobody can eliminate a player on the dribble. No speed. And Modric forgets how to dribble in the final 1/3.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:12 pm

they know we are at home right?

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:15 pm

Betis did the smart thing and pressed our midfield given we only have Modric and Kroos there. Doesn't matter if you're home or away.

It's a predicament. I'd like to play Casemiro/Modric if we're going to go double pivot.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Thimmy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:16 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:I feel sorry for Navas. His position was never secure and with these mistakes nobody will have any qualms if he leaves. Such a shame he really is a good person
I feel sorry for him, as well. In contrast to his heroics of last season, his form has been poor at worst and decent at best this season.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by titosantill on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:17 pm

this is why you need competition, morata's been awful imo
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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:19 pm

Referee is horrible

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:20 pm

Referee that don't run enough to get close to the action get on my nerves. How can you see things when you're always so far away?

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Post by titosantill on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:21 pm

yeah i hate that too. the ball is up front and the ref out of breath away from situations
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Post by Thimmy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:22 pm

Lahoz is just controversial. I don't know why some people claim that his calls always favor us.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:24 pm

hahahahahaah

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by LeSwagg James on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:25 pm

Ramos is God

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Perucho21 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:26 pm

Honestly this is getting annoying

Long gone are the days watching Madrid and chill with my girl instead it's me being nervous and mad as hell

Oh well. Bilbao is next week and it's a key game

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:30 pm

Stability is good. But stability with known flaws... not so much. The formulas that work against setups with certain players are set and proven. Unless you address some of the flaws with new players, you're not really doing yourself much good with stability imo.

Better than changing the whole team for no reason. But there's a happy medium.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by titosantill on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:31 pm

ramos needs to hold tutoring sessions and teach other teammates how to head the ball. this game really shouldn't be as interesting as our team is making it out to be smh
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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:33 pm

The deliveries from Kroos are sublime too.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:35 pm

sportsczy wrote:Stability is good. But stability with known flaws... not so much. The formulas that work against setups with certain players are set and proven. Unless you address some of the flaws with new players, you're not really doing yourself much good with stability imo.

Better than changing the whole team for no reason. But there's a happy medium.
as in we need attackers that are better 1v1

i dont think we can change much from the middle to the back, but wingers that can consistently pin a team back and that can't be stopped 1v1 would be appreciated.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:38 pm

The players showing Navas support Proud
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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Adit on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:39 pm

Ramos saving Zidane.

Shocker.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by sportsczy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:40 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Stability is good.  But stability with known flaws...  not so much.  The formulas that work against setups with certain players are set and proven.  Unless you address some of the flaws with new players, you're not really doing yourself much good with stability imo.

Better than changing the whole team for no reason.  But there's a happy medium.
as in we need attackers that are better 1v1

i dont think we can change much from the middle to the back, but wingers that can consistently pin a team back and that can't be stopped 1v1 would be appreciated.

I'm not really sure that Kroos/Modric/Casemiro works.  Namely...  I said it all offseason... we need a CM that is an athlete and can break lines when pressed.  Our midfield as constructed is very easy to press.

Would you consider N'Zonzi for Kroos?

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by FennecFox7 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:42 pm

How many times have I said Kovacic needs more games? His speed and dribbling is exactly what we need right now

Morata didn't impress me. Both him and Benzema are poor.

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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Turok_TTZ on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:42 pm

A triumph to reclaim what is rightfully ours.

As long as we stay winning, nothing else matters.

Having said that, what a shaky match. I am grateful we are grinding wins. League title in our hands if we keep this up.
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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:43 pm

Didn't like the Isco sub. Thought he was sublime

James on the other hand, if he leaves I won't shed a tear. Such a limited player. Asensio isn't far off

Apart from goals thought we had a very good overall game. Let's not forget Betis play with a back 5. Took Barca 90 mins to score against these
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Re: Liga: Real Madrid vs Real Betis

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:44 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Stability is good.  But stability with known flaws...  not so much.  The formulas that work against setups with certain players are set and proven.  Unless you address some of the flaws with new players, you're not really doing yourself much good with stability imo.

Better than changing the whole team for no reason.  But there's a happy medium.
as in we need attackers that are better 1v1

i dont think we can change much from the middle to the back, but wingers that can consistently pin a team back and that can't be stopped 1v1 would be appreciated.

I'm not really sure that Kroos/Modric/Casemiro works.  Namely...  I said it all offseason... we need a CM that is an athlete and can break lines when pressed.  Our midfield as constructed is very easy to press.

Would you consider N'Zonzi for Kroos?
No i would not, mainly because i dont know that Nzonzi is a elite player. Kroos has many faults, but he does things that are elite

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