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Post by Nishankly Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:28 am

RealGunner wrote:


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Post by messixaviesta Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:20 pm

sportsczy wrote:CR has not surpassed Maradonna and Pele.  Messi and Cruyff are above him too.

Doesn't make him any less great of a player.  But those 4 revolutionized football stylistically.  Maradonna gets specially praise for me because he took otherwise crap teams both at NT and club level to trophies...  he never played on the most talented teams..  not even close.

Maybe then that is the top five of all time although Alfredo Di Stefano's versatility and consistency and Garrincha's one man genius show at WC 1962 could challenge. A few others of course.

Messi has been called the Maradona of this generation for long. In the last few weeks, for the first time ever, I have started saying that Cristiano is the Pele of this generation.

For me also, Maradona is the greatest of all. Strictly only as a footballer on the pitch though. Smile

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Post by messixaviesta Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:35 pm

I have been going through top player lists prepared by various people on the internet and some kind of common consensus is emerging about the top ten of this century so far :-

1. Messi

2. Cristiano

3. Zidane

4. and 5. are usually between Ronaldo and Ronaldinho

6. goes to Henry or Buffon but not necessarily.

Around 7. or 8. are Xavi and Iniesta one after another in interchangeable order.

The list ends with one or more of Pirlo, Kaka, Figo and Nedved. Among defenders only Maldini gets a mention.

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Post by titosantill Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:28 am

lmao, they did lukaku wrong on that one, i don't even think he was trying to do a scissor kick. the way the person laughs makes it funnier
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Post by messixaviesta Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:44 am

This is the best top 100/50/20/10 list I have seen to date. As with any such list its impossible to convince everyone and we all would like to make a few changes at least but I would be surprised if anyone can make a better full list than this one :-

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-100-greatest-footballers-ever-no1-diego-maradona

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Post by futbol_bill Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:28 pm

I would agree with you, although I could debate the actual order. It’s difficult to make up such a list without bias and in most cases without having seen some of the players or in my case, not seen a lot of the earlier generations as there wasn’t the live coverage for much of the games. And of course the game has changed so much over 70 or 80 years.

But generally speaking, I think they have done a good job and it’s hard to argue with who is in the top 10 vs those excluded. I find it funny that 5 years ago we were saying that both Ronaldo and Messi didn’t belong in such a list (yet) as they hadn’t accomplished enough, and now there doesn’t appear to be any doubts!
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Post by messixaviesta Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:27 pm

futbol_bill wrote:I would agree with you, although I could debate the actual order. It’s difficult to make up such a list without bias and in most cases without having seen some of the players or in my case, not seen a lot of the earlier generations as there wasn’t the live coverage for much of the games. And of course the game has changed so much over 70 or 80 years.

But generally speaking, I think they have done a good job and it’s hard to argue with who is in the top 10 vs those excluded. I find it funny that 5 years ago we were saying that both Ronaldo and Messi didn’t belong in such a list (yet) as they hadn’t accomplished enough, and now there doesn’t appear to be any doubts!


My views are very similar to yours. Its virtually impossible to make a list like this and considering that these guys have done a better job than most.

Of course I am also not convinced about everything. The most troubling point that I immediately thought of is the exclusion of Rivaldo.

As you said it's the top 10 and top 20 lists that are especially commendable here, very convincing with hardly one single out of place selection.

As for Messi and Cristiano I think Messi was accepted in the top ten earlier itself but making a world cup final in 2014 put the seal on it. As for Cristiano some were skeptical for long including me but a Euro 2016 trophy and back to back UCLs while showing no signs of stopping even after 12+ years at the top of the game sealed it.

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Post by sportsczy Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:53 am

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Post by sportsczy Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:00 am

Top 10 of the century in no particular order: Messi, CR, Ronaldinho, Xavi, Zidane, Henry, Iniesta, Buffon, Pirlo, R9.

Defense was dominated by Thuram, Nesta, Maldini and Cafu.

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Post by Beautiful Football Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:12 am

messixaviesta wrote:This is the best top 100/50/20/10 list I have seen to date. As with any such list its impossible to convince everyone and we all would like to make a few changes at least but I would be surprised if anyone can make a better full list than this one :-

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-100-greatest-footballers-ever-no1-diego-maradona


I Find this list way more accurate. Specially top ten.the author biggest mistake is Xavi.
http://xtrahistory.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/Greatest-Ever.html

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Post by Beautiful Football Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:44 am

Cristiano Ronaldo's Former Club Manchester United use Messi pic to set example for youth players:

https://en.as.com/en/2018/04/09/football/1523296293_501551.html

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Post by S Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:48 am

Beautiful Football wrote:Cristiano Ronaldo's Former Club Manchester United use Messi pic to set example for youth players:

https://en.as.com/en/2018/04/09/football/1523296293_501551.html


No wonder they're a flop show on the youth setup :coffee:
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Post by Beautiful Football Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:57 am

S wrote:
Beautiful Football wrote:Cristiano Ronaldo's Former Club Manchester United use Messi pic to set example for youth players:

https://en.as.com/en/2018/04/09/football/1523296293_501551.html


No wonder they're a flop show on the youth setup :coffee:


The reason is simple, they had CR7 pic before. From Now on History will change, they have true GOAT pic atm. Nicky Butt knows what is he doing. MAN U are going to have their golden generation pretty soon. :coffee:

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Post by RealGunner Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:45 pm

And once again.

When the team needed him. He was there.

He came. He saw. He conquered.

Greatest of all time
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Post by terrance511 Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:47 pm

best ever.

wide assist to himself
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Post by El Gunner Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:47 pm

They won't win it this year.
Bayern or Liverpool will beat them.
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Post by Firenze Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:49 pm

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Post by guest7 Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:53 pm

Anyone else would have scored a goal like that in the TOP CORNER PERFECT POWER EVERYTHING in such a ADRENALINE RUSHED TOP COMPETITION????? NO

NOW SIT DOWN AND STFU
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:56 pm

guest7 wrote:Anyone else would have scored a goal like that in the TOP CORNER PERFECT POWER EVERYTHING in such a ADRENALINE RUSHED TOP COMPETITION????? NO

NOW SIT DOWN AND STFU

Do you have no shame? You seriously have the stomach to gloat after such a horrendous performance?

Yes, that was a well-taken penalty. Yes, he didn't let emotions get the better of him in an incredibly stressful moment. But aside from that, there's nothing to be proud of here.

We played very bad and we need to stay quiet for the time being.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:00 pm

He's been incredibly clutch in his 30's. I used to be firmly in the 'Messi > Ronaldo' camp, but now I just don't know anymore. It's game and game and game again that he makes the difference.
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Post by guest7 Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:00 pm

Seriously Demon of Carthridge I think you are sick. Everyone agrees it was a classless win but we're not going to let that hurt us.

The way you think, your "higher than thou" attitude, it's so sick in my opinion. Get a psychiatrist
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:27 pm



I was a non-believer.. but this is just insane.

People talk about Messidependencia but clearly it seems that Ronaldodependencia is more prevalent?
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:41 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:People talk about Messidependencia but clearly it seems that Ronaldodependencia is more prevalent?

I read an article on Marca about where would Real be in the Champions League without Ronaldo's goals. It turns out, Madrid wouldn't have reached either of its last two finals and would also have been eliminated this season. Take a look:
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Post by Thimmy Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:45 pm

Part of me wish Chad had been here to argue that Benzemadependencia has ever existed Laughing
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