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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:53 am

He's a GREAT man manager. Nothing more. As far as actual coaching? LOOOOL

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Post by chad4401 Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:23 pm

What does actual coaching supposed to mean? Seriously people need to get off their high horses stop posting nonsense, RM as been playing like this long before zidane cause cr is un-coachable.

mou madrid played like dog shit and cowards who would concede possession to the weakest la liga teams, then get dominated by any decent team.

same with Carlo other than that 22 game run, couple combination play between the BBC his RM team didn't play the best footy either and was very reliant on players to out talent the opposition.

Rafa tried to fix the core problem cr selfishness, anyone see cr remotely interested in passing the ball to benzema once yesterday? nope and same for the first leg, does anybody care? nope so Rafa got fired cause cr want to be the sole reason why the team wins anything fact.

So zidane let cr do what he wants, while trying to keep as much players happy as possible, if there is any problem people can point out its the fact that zz subs are head scratching like benzema being subbed out before isco, even though latter did nothing all game long, while Benz was already rested for this game, and couple other similar things but that whatever all that matters is winning.

Lastly pep was treated like a god when he first started, acting like an overly eccentric twat, now everyday it seems like he was carried by his players more than his tactics, people have hard time admitting or realizing that, so all these "is he actually coaching" can be said about a lot of managers.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:23 pm

You don't need to be over-tactical with this team.  Just need to keep it simple... play the base tactics and adjust for individual strengths based on each opponent.

Most top managers try too hard to do something eccentric to promote their personal brand as opposed to just trying to win a football game.  They identify more with their own identity as opposed to what a particular team is best suited for.

That's ZZ's strength so far...  he started out experimenting during his first month then figured the best scheme which allowed Madrid the best chance to win.  People criticize him for it because he doesn't over complicate his life.

I guarantee that, if we went through a consistent stretch where we were losing games and looked off, he would try alternatives like he did when he began his tenure.

Pragmatic tactical manager.  Great man manager.
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Post by titosantill Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:35 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Most top managers try too hard to do something eccentric to promote their personal brand as opposed to just trying to win a football game.  They identify more with their own identity as opposed to what a particular team is best suited for.


i really love this point. certain managers fall into the business of punditry and try to over think issues or make themselves the star. yes you do need tactics here and there, but football is very different from say basketball, where the managers are more hands on with actually calling plays. sometimes you need to just let your players play instead of making the game about yourself and tactics....there's a thin line or a grey area, but certain managers try to hard to make it about them
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Post by titosantill Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:38 pm

btw let's not jump the gun about cl, i want us to take it one step at a time. don't want any jinx, and i don't really care about who is or isn't the best coach....the coaching business is a 'what have you done for me lately' business, and rightly so
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Post by Harmonica Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:24 pm

This is how Uefa decided the titles.



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Fakest manager of all-time.

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Post by Dante Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:19 pm

Need to confess here that i didn't think much of Zidane when he took over at Real . I thought he would try to emulate what Ancelotti did and that's it.

Didn't expect what actually transpired ever since. Hat's off to him , what he has done with Real is nothing sort of exceptional . And his team is fun to watch too .
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Post by Blue Barrett Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:14 am

Barca fans complaining about Uefa favoritism hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Oh my days!
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Post by farfan Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:19 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:Barca fans complaining about Uefa favoritism hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Oh my days!


Lack of self-awareness is an essential component of Barça DNA.
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Post by Harmonica Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:36 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:Barca fans complaining about Uefa favoritism hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Oh my days!
Please do elaborate, if you dare, which we both know you can't.
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Post by Firenze Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:41 pm

right place right time, i could have won back to back CL's with Madrid in that form..players are in a slump now and he looks clueless
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:43 pm

When I said he was winning because of how elite team I was attacked and ostracized I want compensation
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Post by Freeza Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:02 pm

Please stop knee jerk. Zidane has a plan and his name is Lucas Vazquez
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Post by Doc Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:55 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:When I said he was winning because of how elite team I was attacked and ostracized I want compensation

You owe us big time for Mbappe so your debt has not been cleared.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:55 pm

Firenze wrote:right place right time, i could have won back to back CL's with Madrid in that form..players are in a slump now and he looks clueless


No, you could have not.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:59 pm

He has 5 years of Ultimate team experience mate.
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Post by M99 Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:He has 5 years of Ultimate team experience mate.


Firenze would think team chemistry perfect since all Real players play in La Liga hmm
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Post by CBarca Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:11 pm

Being found out atm tbh

His decisions, his lack of control. The lack of fight in this Madrid team right now is ridiculous. His substitutions lack imagination and are left far too late. He doesn't seem to be tweaking the squad at all. Not playing Ceballos one bit
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Post by Bankz Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:12 pm

rofl from luckdane to fraudane. Absolute scrub. rofl
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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:29 pm

CBarca wrote:Being found out atm tbh

His decisions, his lack of control. The lack of fight in this Madrid team right now is ridiculous. His substitutions lack imagination and are left far too late. He doesn't seem to be tweaking the squad at all. Not playing Ceballos one bit


Found out? Not many people rated him to begin with tbh. We all knew he was a good man manager, but now when the team has won everything, he's become useless.

Will see anyways, he finished second to Dortmund last season they still won the double.
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Post by Luca Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:14 am

Not really sure if I'm a fan of all of these supposed Zidane doubters when last season this certainly was not the case.

How many people in this thread alone have come out with the, "I never rated him to begin with", the same ones supporting him a few months back.

Pity

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:15 am

Doc wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:When I said he was winning because of how elite team I was attacked and ostracized I want compensation

You owe us big time for Mbappe so your debt has not been cleared.
I ate crow over Zidane but now I'm taking it back. I never rated him, then I rated him grudgingly, and now I'm back to never having rated him.
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