Re: UK General Elections 2017

by BarrileteCosmico Tue May 23, 2017 1:27 am

Labor gains 16 points in Wales:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-poll-wales-general-election-2017-16-point-shift-swing-a7749786.html

And the Tory's advantage has halved over the past week:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-election-idUSKBN18I19P

When May called a snap election for June 8, surveys indicated she would win a landslide comparable with Margaret Thatcher's 1983 majority of 144 seats in the 650-seat parliament.

That picture appeared to change after both the Conservatives and Labour set out their election pitches to voters last week, with a Survation poll published on Monday showing May's lead over Labour had halved to 9 percentage points.

by Tomwin Lannister Tue May 23, 2017 1:38 am

For Labour to win the media need to continue grilling May, which they might do if they sense she's going to throw this election away and young people need to stop talking game on Social Media and actually register to vote.

I imagine the old people have turned on the Conservatives all over the country as was the case in areas in Wales after the 'dementia tax' banter and they're likely to vote in numbers as seen with Brexit.

Might be too little too late though. 2 Weeks to go and only now is May getting even 1/4 of the negative press that her opposition does.

by DuringTheWar Tue May 23, 2017 11:57 pm

Seeing as everyone other than the establishment class thinks the media is against them and that the media is the organ that decides public opinion, do people even have faith in democracy anymore? All seems like a sham.

by Unique Fri May 26, 2017 12:07 pm

Jeremy Corbyn has made a controversial return to election campaigning after the Manchester bomb attack with a speech blaming UK foreign policy for terrorism at home.

http://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-blames-foreign-policy-for-terrorism-in-uk-10893243

can you imagine what would have happened if this pussy was PM during ww2.

by RealGunner Fri May 26, 2017 5:57 pm

huh? Nothing he said is controversial.

Saying that the war on terror has contributed to the rise of terrorism is not controversial. It's a fact.

Amazing speech overall. Nailed everything.

by Unique Fri May 26, 2017 6:47 pm

RealGunner wrote:huh? Nothing he said is controversial.

Saying that the war on terror has contributed to the rise of terrorism is not controversial. It's a fact.

Amazing speech overall. Nailed everything.

yeah because Islamic extremists only started killing since the gulf war. The man is a pussy. Instead of fighting the enemy this Cnut is blaming the victims. This nob would surrender faster than the French if we ever got attacked by a invading army

by Freeza Fri May 26, 2017 6:52 pm

Unique wrote:
RealGunner wrote:huh? Nothing he said is controversial.

Saying that the war on terror has contributed to the rise of terrorism is not controversial. It's a fact.

Amazing speech overall. Nailed everything.

yeah because Islamic extremists only started killing since the gulf war. The man is a pussy. Instead of fighting the enemy this Cnut is blaming the victims. This nob would surrender faster than the French if we ever got attacked by a invading army

The US were the ones who kickstarted terrorist organizations and gave them weapons and training though.

Also let's not act like this isn't some form of retaliation. People in the Middle East live in war zones caused by the western world where missiles and drones attack are part of their lives. Not exactly hard to grasp that more attacks will lead to more terrorism. You can't kill an idea with weapons.

by Unique Fri May 26, 2017 9:25 pm

Freeza wrote:
Unique wrote:
RealGunner wrote:huh? Nothing he said is controversial.

Saying that the war on terror has contributed to the rise of terrorism is not controversial. It's a fact.

Amazing speech overall. Nailed everything.

yeah because Islamic extremists only started killing since the gulf war. The man is a pussy. Instead of fighting the enemy this Cnut is blaming the victims. This nob would surrender faster than the French if we ever got attacked by a invading army

The US were the ones who kickstarted terrorist organizations and gave them weapons and training though.

Also let's not act like this isn't some form of retaliation. People in the Middle East live in war zones caused by the western world where missiles and drones attack are part of their lives. Not exactly hard to grasp that more attacks will lead to more terrorism. You can't kill an idea with weapons.

yeah the problem with that argument is why did france Germany Sweden and Belgium get attacked if they do it as retaliation to the bush/blair wars.

by BarrileteCosmico Sat May 27, 2017 7:44 pm

YouGov shows Tories' lead plummeting to just 5 points after attacks:

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/25/are-tories-losing-ground-or-regaining-it/

by Tomwin Lannister Sat May 27, 2017 8:46 pm

As I've said before, there's things I dislike about Baron Corbin as PM, but i'd wager a bet that every single person in UK/Visiting UK on GL would benefit from the Labour manifesto being put to task as opposed to the conservatives one.

What he said about actions in the middle east being responsible for a rise in terrorism is correct, to a degree.

But let's not pretend that these places were some sort of collection of hidden utopia's where the natives lived in peace & Unity until one day big bad Uncle Sam & the lads started bombing them.

And let's not forget that Islamic extremists hate the western way of life, not just our foreign policy. And yes, as I said in another thread and has been echoed here countries like Sweden who are being affected badly by terrorism don't fit into the aggressive Foreign policy idea at all. They're hit with terrorism purely because uncontrolled migration, taking in x hundreds of thousands of people who come from places with completely different cultures and value systems is F*CKING STUPID and any politician who advocates for that method of open door migration from these countries is endangering his/her own people.

by RealGunner Mon May 29, 2017 10:48 pm

Every single time May appears on TV she looks like a joke lol. Crowd openly laughed at her today. Corbyn smashed it as always.

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by Tomwin Lannister Mon May 29, 2017 10:59 pm

She's actually terrible at improvising in the slightest, any sort of interview where she's not waiting to unload a scripted af answer to a set question leaves her scrambling.

I can't imagine her negotiating with anybody for anything.

by Pedram Tue May 30, 2017 11:49 pm

lmao

Tonight: we reveal YouGov's first seat by seat projection of the campaign - suggests Tories fall 16 seats short of overall majority pic.twitter.com/8ouPRHTZ7m
— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) May 30, 2017

by Unique Wed May 31, 2017 1:44 am

Pedram wrote:lmao

Tonight: we reveal YouGov's first seat by seat projection of the campaign - suggests Tories fall 16 seats short of overall majority pic.twitter.com/8ouPRHTZ7m
— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) May 30, 2017

its sad to see ukip that far down.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 31, 2017 1:52 am

Lib Dems projected to get about 10% of the vote, just 10 seats Laughing

ridiculous

Then again Britain voted against the AV ref while Australia and Canada are moving in that direction, so I guess brits have the voting system they actually want

by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 31, 2017 1:54 am

Unique wrote: its sad to see ukip that far down.

Not really, their ideas have become mainstream and invaded the conservative party. The reason they're so far down is because there's a realistic option advocating for the same thing.

by RealGunner Wed May 31, 2017 8:39 pm

Angus Robertson is one impressive man. Excellent in debate. Scotland is lucky to have SNP.

by RealGunner Wed May 31, 2017 8:53 pm

Voting for Greens again. Easily the most progressive party.

Caroline Lucas Molenation

by RealGunner Wed May 31, 2017 9:30 pm

This level of shade was very good. #BBCDebate pic.twitter.com/IAKHNjwqv4
— Mike P Williams (@Mike_P_Williams) May 31, 2017

Amber Rudd: Judge us on our record

Audience then bursts into laughter

Favourite moment #BBCDebate pic.twitter.com/D29Qk9rrb5
— Joshua

by RealGunner Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:16 pm

18-24 year olds voting intention:

LAB: 68%
CON: 16%
LDEM: 8%
GRN: 3%
UKIP: 1%

inb4 10% turnout

by Sri Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:38 pm

Any chance Labour wins the majority?

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:07 pm

For that to happen Labour needs

Young voters to turn out like never before.
Older voters to remain pissed off over the whole dementia tax
People tied in with the NHS to vote labour
And perhaps most importantly, the media to turn on the conservatives like they did Labour. Which isn't happening sadly.

If you browse social media you'd think 9/10 people vote labour already but it's the working class people that get 100% of their info from news stations and cheap newspapers that end up voting Tory to their own detriment.

by Sri Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:20 pm

Urban intelligentsia is very disconnected from ground realities globally I guess hmm

by DuringTheWar Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:39 pm

The Tory base isn't working class. Maybe people who started as working class but moved into the middle class.
The working class don't vote at all because of their gramscian 'labour' party.

Case in point: Brexit. Working class people supported that who will never in their lives support the Conservative party.

by Tomwin Lannister Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:14 am

Yeah that's the point

Working class vote for conservatives now because of Brexit. Also the working class UKIPpers switched to conservative.

by RealGunner Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:52 pm

Please vote lads.

@Firenze you too scrub

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