Re: Premier League 17-18 Discussion

by RealGunner Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:29 pm

This celebration needed when he scores the winner in the EL Final

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:36 pm

Can't wait for main man Giroud to bench Lacazette like he does for France.

by RealGunner Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:46 pm

knowing wenger, both will be starting on day 1. Lacazette as a LWB ofcourse

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:53 pm

Justice for strong, Balkan lad.

by donttreadonred Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:36 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Can't wait for main man Giroud to bench Lacazette like he does for France.

This is actually an interesting shout. Most football hipsters (including myself) rate Lacazette above Giroud. However, there's a well-defined record of Giroud beating him out for a starting/squad place for France.

Honestly, it could be any number of factors:
- bigger league
- different (more-physical / target-man) style
- on-pitch relationship with other stars
- performance in training
- personal bias/preference

Personally, I can't see Wenger paying that amount for a player (even in this market) and then benching him. However, the question should be asked as to why Lacazette remains behind Giroud in the NT pecking order and whether that will carry over to club level.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:52 pm

donttreadonred wrote: However, the question should be asked as to why Lacazette remains behind Giroud in the NT pecking order and whether that will carry over to club level.

French NT coaches have a logic of their own I think.

When French NT pecking order is concerned, I guess we have to add a number of unknown factors to the list you complied above, like

- astrological sign
- pureness of monophtong pronunciation
- reputation of the agents' kids' école polytechnique

and other things we cannot even imagine

by donttreadonred Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:44 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:French NT coaches have a logic of their own I think.

When French NT pecking order is concerned, I guess we have to add a number of unknown factors to the list you complied above, like

- astrological sign
- pureness of monophtong pronunciation
- reputation of the agents' kids' école polytechnique

and other things we cannot even imagine

It's so true. Honestly what I meant by "personal bias/preference".

by Glory Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:21 am

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Interesting stats. hmm

(Copied from redcafe btw)

by Jay29 Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:41 am

Someone on /r/soccer made an algorithm that tracks the 3 most popular words associated with each team on there. Results are humorous. pic.twitter.com/tahwJochKJ
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by BarcaLearning Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:02 pm

RealGunner wrote:knowing wenger, both will be starting on day 1. Lacazette as a LWB ofcourse

So what do the Arsenal fans here think about Wenger continuing with the job? Any hopes for improvementleft? Razz

Will need to get used to not being in the CL if he doesnt turn things around.

by RealGunner Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:48 pm

by CBarca Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:19 pm

No idea what I'm looking at

by Kick Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:07 am

CBarca wrote:No idea what I'm looking at

Evidence that RG is a closet Spurs fan.

by RealGunner Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:22 pm

Official: Players will receive a retrospective two-match suspension for diving in the Premier League this season

by RealGunner Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 am

We discussing English leagues in here as well?

by Dante Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:40 pm

RealGunner wrote:Official: Players will receive a retrospective two-match suspension for diving in the Premier League this season

Very curious to see how this will go. I certainly hope it goes well and others follow their example too .

Diving used to be sort of rare(ish) , if not rare at least certainly not that common practice in the 00s , compared to the 10s. In recent years and nowadays , it's become ridiculous , i remember a time it was even funny here or there , now there are players out there who won't think twice to dive even when they can stay up and try .

Was always very lenient with diving but it's become really tiresome with time , sincerely i hope this goes well and everyone follows suit after.

by Nishankly Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:45 pm

RealGunner wrote:Official: Players will receive a retrospective two-match suspension for diving in the Premier League this season

How do they use this law when the player "goes down too easily"? That's a grey zone, You can never say what exactly could have happened.

by donttreadonred Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:37 pm

RealGunner wrote:Official: Players will receive a retrospective two-match suspension for diving in the Premier League this season

This is going to be absolutely impossible to enforce.

There are all kinds of questions:
- What's eligible for review? Only incidents the referee misses or incidents that are adjudged to be incorrectly handled...
- How will they handle incidents with minimal contact? Forwards aren't stupid. Most 'diving' incidents involve at least some contact.

I simply don't see how any sort of uniform standard comes out of this.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:39 pm

RealGunner wrote:We discussing English leagues in here as well?

They exist?

by Nishankly Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:12 pm

Look at this foul for example, It's a prime dive after the foul. But the contact made against Origi ensured he couldn't get his shot away, There was no way to get something out of a great situation other than going down.

by rincon Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:36 pm

This rule has been in place in Serie A for a while. It worked. It obviously didn't end diving, but its less present than before. So far they only use it for players that clearly dived to win penalties. Happens a couple times a season and they get banned for a few games retroactively even if the ref didn't see it.

It has definitely been better than nothing.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:01 pm

Sounds like to me that Nishank is worried that Liverpool's band of dirty south american scum can't cheat anymore hmm

If they were all more honest like us british lads then this wouldn't be an issue.

by Nishankly Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:50 pm

2 lads (Probs 1 by September) don't make a band imo

by Jay29 Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:49 pm

Arsenal and Chelsea are playing in the Community Shield in ten minutes. Teams:

Cech; Holding, Mertesacker, Monreal; Bellerin, Xhaka, Elneny, Chamberlain; Iwobi, Welbeck; Lacazette

Courtois; Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill; Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso; Willian, Pedro; Batshuayi

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:51 pm

Jay29 wrote:Arsenal and Chelsea are playing in the Community Shield in ten minutes. Teams:

Cech; Holding, Mertesacker, Monreal; Bellerin, Xhaka, Elneny, Chamberlain; Iwobi, Welbeck; Lacazette

Courtois; Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill; Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso; Willian, Pedro; Batshuayi

Unreal reserve team match.

by Firenze Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:01 pm

community shield rofl

ain't nobody got time for that poverty cup

there was a time it meant something but those days are long past tbh

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