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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by salmano9 on Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:11 pm

@Luca wrote:The Lazio game concern was very valid. We got dominated in every area of the field, every single area. I don't care if you're playing a friendly against a team from Cyprus or a Super cup final against Lazio, that was a disgustingly bad match from us. I'm not sure how this match erases that one.

That's like saying, eh we smashed Cagliari, I told you the CL final loss against Real was a fluke.

Doesn't really make sense now does it? Just like bringing up the match now that Juventus won convincingly Laughing

Anyways, the discussion is meaningless. We played a great match in every area today.

If Cagliari was say Lazio today, we still would have drawn/lost the game. The team is unconvincing me, and I think that a 2 man midfield is much more stable. We played 4141 when Matuidi came in, but the players didn't seem to be used to the system. Pjanic played in the Regista role behind Matuidi and Khedira.

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Post by Luca on Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:25 pm

I disagree sal. It's not easy for any team to come to Torino and get a point, let alone a victory.

We have to take it a game at a time. Today we can be happy because every player that saw the field for Juve played well.

We scored three goals and made a lot of chances. We gave away a poor penalty but Buffon saved it.

Matuidi and Costa both looked great when they came on. Everyone is looking fit and positive.
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Post by Warrior on Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:56 pm

I like that 3-4-3 attacking formation, we should always attack like that, it fits our squad better than what we've seen against Lazio

MANDZUKIC-DYBALA-DOUGLAS
SANDRO-MATUIDI-MARCHISIO-LICHT
CHIELLINI-PJANIC-RUGANI

Pjanic as a regista
Sandro, Matuidi, Marchisio & Licht participate every attack and defend as a block, switching back to 4-3-3 to defend/early possession in our zone.
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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:59 pm

and Higuain? can't bench our top striker.
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Post by Warrior on Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:07 pm

That's what i saw tonight, i placed Marchisio but he wasn't on the field at the time, it was Khedira. My mistake.

Ultimately it could look like this

BERNARDESCHI-HIGUAIN-DOUGLAS
SANDRO-MATUIDI-DYBALA-SPINAZZOLA
CHIELLINI-PJANIC-RUGANI

That's when we attack, Dybala in a more free role, he likes to run anyways. While our formation on the paper is 4-2-3-1

HIGUAIN
BERNARDESCHI-DYBALA-DOUGLAS
MATUIDI-PJANIC
SANDRO-CHIELLINI-RUGANI-SPIANZZOLA
BUFFON
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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:09 pm

I like it too as an option, still, the 4-2-3-1 will probably be trusted as the main formation until it doesn't work anymore.
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Post by DeviAngel on Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:04 am

Mandzu proves every single time why he is in the first team. Laughing I saw him 3 times acting like CB plus he scores and creates A LOT of spaces for Sandro. Good luck taking him off the first team, plus he was miles better then Higgy.

I predict that Mandzu will stay as first team starter with Costa taking Cuadrado's place. Berna will be a rotation player for Dybala/Mandzu. Can't wait for Pjaca... Mama mia !

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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by rincon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:26 pm

Rumored lineup

Buffon; Sandro, Chiellini, Rugani, Lichtsteiner; Khedira, Pjanic; Mandzukic, Dybala, Cuadrado; Higuain
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Post by Luca on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:34 pm

Cuadrado with the start. Let's hope he shows something.

He was dreadful against Lazio and underwhelming against Cagliari. Hard to justify his inclusion with the talent on the bench.

Rugani though Proud
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Post by salmano9 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:49 pm

@Luca wrote:Cuadrado with the start. Let's hope he shows something.

He was dreadful against Lazio and underwhelming against Cagliari. Hard to justify his inclusion with the talent on the bench.

Rugani though Proud

I doubt he will do something this game. The Marassi is a really tough stadium to win in, as we have seen in the past few years. Maybe we will see a header from Mandzukic, or Chiellini.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:55 pm

Uugh can we not just play the guy we brought in to replace Cuadrado, the guy who already looks sharper and more useful.

There's no good justification why we can't, other than we're notoriously slow at introducing new signings.

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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:14 pm

Agre with you all. I need some Bernardeschi and Costa. Cuadrado needs to be go back to being a sub soon.
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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by Luca on Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:11 pm

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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:41 pm

Khedira and Cuadrado should be sold by tonights end Laughing

Also our defence is pathetic.

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Post by salmano9 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:01 pm

Our new #10 has his first hatrick in a Juve shirt! Heart

His jersey will sell!!!!

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Post by salmano9 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:02 pm

@Tomwin Lannister wrote:Uugh can we not just play the guy we brought in to replace Cuadrado, the guy who already looks sharper and more useful.

There's no good justification why we can't, other than we're notoriously slow at introducing new signings.

Take it eaasy, step by step. Remember Dybala in his first season.

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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:05 pm

Dybala with an explosive start this season. 2 for Lazio at the Olimpico, 2 for Cagliari and 3 for Genoa at the Marassi :bow:

I missed the first 20 min of the match so I don't know what happened then when we went down 2-1. That second half though, excellent work by a lot of our players.

Pjanic had a huge game (except fort he own goal ofc), really seemed to tackle the match head on. I liked Matuidi when he came in, not huge, but significantly better than Khedira. Higuain and Mandzukic did tons of work for the team. Higuain particularly tracked back like crazy to link with the midfield. Bentancur looked tidy.
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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:06 pm

Feels great to win in the Marassi after last year's devastating loss.
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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:07 pm

What streams do you guys use?

My laptop is only like 10 months old and my internet is solid, yet I can't seem to load literally 99% of streams I try, and I try on 3 different web browsers.

I also try with and without ad block, and no joy. Starting to struggle to follow Juve at all. Must've used 6 streams today each slowly became unusable and by the 60th minute I had none left to try

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Post by Luca on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:12 pm

I've got that problem too when I stream.

I usually just go to Reddit- soccer streams (google this), they're usually very good.

I'm not the best person to ask though. Outside of there I have my struggles also Laughing
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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:14 pm

These days I exclusively use Acestream. Download Ace Player and then go on Arenavision.in (or other Ace Stream addresses sites) and stream everything in beautiful HD.

Languages are usually the home language (Italian for us) plus spanish and/or english depending on the game.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:14 pm

Even they are no longer working for me

One did, in Russian. 2nd half the picture turned to a grey screen and only audio worked. Sadly my Russian is not great.

I don't get it and the problem is too vague to even google. I'm lucky to get 45 minutes of Juve now because streams are incompatible with my laptop somehow.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:15 pm

Ah cool. I have ace but the soccerstreams website that listed Juve links went so I haven't been using it.


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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:16 pm

Yeah in that website you get every Juve game plus most high profile Serie A games. Basically all the top 5 teams. Then others depending on the schedule.
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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by Luca on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:21 pm

I had an issue with the acestream, I used to get stuck on matches that would never finish prebuffering. Other times, it worked and it was incredible.

Anyways, for this match
1. It seems like we tried to win the game for Genoa early, horrendous own goal and needless penalty
2. Dybala carried us. He is a man possessed this season, which is great news for us.
3. We responded like champions.
4. Khedira was quite poor, we improved with his substitution.
5. Cuadrado's saving grace was a fantastic goal but still overall quite poor but better.
6. Debut for Bentancur, looked quite good.
7. Pjanic, great match again, amazing work to assist Dybala for our first and he couldn't do anything about the own goal.
8. Without Douglas Costa and Bernardeschi, we scored 4 goals away Laughing
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Re: Juventus 2017/2018 Serie A and Coppa Italia thread

Post by Warrior on Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:42 pm

Couldn't watch the game, thanks Luca for the list

About that stream problem
1. Download Sopcast (no need to create an account if you only watch)
2. http://livetv.sx/allupcomingsports/1/
3. Choose the Sopcast link with the highest percentage

This will always work but the video quality will be decent at best. Sometimes i'd prefer HD and it's disappointing, but it will always work.
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