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Post by guest7 on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:02 pm

I say Mbappe vs Neymar

Neymar has a obsession towards being the absolute best. All this media talk (remember there is smoke where there is fire) makes me speculate that Neymar isn't happy being the second fiddle. He wants Balon d'Or!

But what if Mbappe manages to win Balon d'Or before Neymar? Hypothetically it's possible if Mbappe moves to Madrid and manages to outscore CR. CR has declined last season and it's possible he will even decline even more.

One things guaranteed, if CR is out of the picture, Balon d'Or will be decided by who wins CL. Mbappes chances are better than Neymar winning it IMO.

It'd be funny if Mbappe wins it. But who do you think will win it first? Neymar vs Mbappe. The second generation of CR vs Messi.

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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by Warrior on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:22 pm

Neymar is the best of his somewhat underwhelming generation. Mbappé is of the following generation, so far the best but things might turn out different in 3 to 5 years.

The Ballon d'Or, i don't care about that but it seems like Neymar just ruled himself out of the race.
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Post by Valkyrja on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:57 pm

Neymar is 25 years young and Brazilian. Wouldn't be a surprise if Messi and CR are going to last longer at the top than him. Mbappe is a whole other story though, as he is only 18 and I've never seen a player so young and on so high demand. He's 14 younger than CR and 12 years younger than Messi. It's between him and Dembele imo

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Post by Perucho21 on Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:00 pm

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Post by Bankz on Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:40 pm

Neymar lol. If they were thesame age, it would have being a no brainer for neymar, lol. I think that is pretty much clear. However, the single most important advantage for mbappe has nothing to do with his abilities personally but the simple fact that he will be emmerging at a time where messi and ronaldo have both past their primes. That in and of itself alone already gives mbappe a luxury and an advantage that neymar never enjoyed and when you couple that with the fact that mbappe is 7 years younger than neymar then i think the answer is easy.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:42 pm

I feel we are going to say Ronaldo/Messi will decline year after year until our throats go dry. We just don't know when they'll finally fall to the same level as the rest of the players. Ronaldo might be 33 yet he is still the far best scorer in the world and every season us Madrid fans think that the following season is when he'll finally fall off the grace but he continues to prove us wrong. Wouldn't be surprised if Neymar was 30 years old when Messi finally declined. He's lucky with Ronaldo's age but not Messi's

Once they are finally out of the picture we can start discussing candidates
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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by Valkyrja on Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:49 pm

Mbappe will also have the CL winner advantage by playing for Madrid imo

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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by Thimmy on Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:52 pm

@Bankz wrote:Neymar lol. If they were thesame age, it would have being a no brainer for neymar, lol. I think that is pretty much clear. However, the single most important advantage for mbappe has nothing to do with his abilities personally but the simple fact that he will be emmerging at a time where messi and ronaldo have both past their primes. That in and of itself alone already gives mbappe a luxury and an advantage that neymar never enjoyed and when you couple that with the fact that mbappe is 7 years younger than neymar then i think the answer is easy.


He also has the advantage that there are relatively few elite forwards worth mentioning right now. In fact, I can't remember the last time there were so few top class strikers in football.

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Post by guest7 on Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:00 pm

The only player that is guaranteed the Balon d'Or is the star of the team who won CL!

Basically if CR declines, and Messi is left alone at the top, both Neymar and Mbappe can challange him! Assuming Neymar makes a move to PSG.

I give CR max 2 years at the top now. I think this season he might even decline more because of depression/issues with tax laws.
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:45 pm

Mbappe showed nothing to suggest he will be a ballon d'or winner. If Neymar will win one is another matter entirely.

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Post by zigra on Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:28 pm

@Thimmy wrote:
@Bankz wrote:Neymar lol. If they were thesame age, it would have being a no brainer for neymar, lol. I think that is pretty much clear. However, the single most important advantage for mbappe has nothing to do with his abilities personally but the simple fact that he will be emmerging at a time where messi and ronaldo have both past their primes. That in and of itself alone already gives mbappe a luxury and an advantage that neymar never enjoyed and when you couple that with the fact that mbappe is 7 years younger than neymar then i think the answer is easy.


He also has the advantage that there are relatively few elite forwards worth mentioning right now. In fact, I can't remember the last time there were so few top class strikers in football.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:01 am

The answer is neither.

Neither are touching the award until Messi and Ronaldo until their footballing corpses and by that time Neymar will be in his 30s and they'll be a new young hype jobs.

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Post by Kaladin on Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:32 am

Remember when United fans were hyped of Martial because he had Ballon D'Or clauses rofl

They got fleeced good Laughing
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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by Abramovich on Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:10 pm

Dembele will win one before these guys.
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Post by chad4401 on Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:47 pm

Again rewarding players with praise before a ball is even kick in a RM jersey, sounds just like what happened with isco then every RM fans gonna be forced to lie their asses off, every time certain players have bad games or end up being a bench warmer, what's so wrong with waiting to see how good players are before racing off assuming 10 years into the future?

Mbappe looks like a good young striker but to say he is the best of the next generation already is silly talk and he ain't on neymar level either, neymar is much more proven already this just a silly thread made to suck off mbappe prematurely RM fans Proud.

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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by Perucho21 on Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:59 pm

@Warrior wrote:Neymar is the best of his somewhat underwhelming generation. Mbappé is of the following generation, so far the best but things might turn out different in 3 to 5 years.

The Ballon d'Or, i don't care about that but it seems like Neymar just ruled himself out of the race.


How so? If he leads PSG to a treble winning season he should be the winner, and depending on any international tournaments

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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by terrance511 on Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:40 pm

isco will win 1 before mbappe
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Post by M99 on Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:25 pm

Andre Gomes.

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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by El Kommander on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:09 am

Mbappe because he wins you games with goals. If Neymar can start improving his output and he carries PSG and Brazil to the cl and WC then he will win it if Ronaldo isn't injured. Messi and Barcelona are finished so Messi won't win another one till Ronaldo retires.

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Post by guest7 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:15 am

Actually for Brazil Neymar has been winning games with his goals
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Post by El Kommander on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:49 am

@guest7 wrote:Actually for Brazil Neymar has been winning games with his goals

Now that he is finally out of Messi's oppression I expect him to shine bright like a diamond. He is just as talented if not outright superiro to the midget. He is the only player I consider close to The Komandante at this present moment in time. I wish he came to Madrid, he would have been able to shine even more. We will eventually get him. This was just a way to avoid a Figo situation. If he wins the world cup and shines for Brazil he will be in with a shout for the Ballon D'or

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Post by halamadrid2 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:53 am

With that salary he can forget coming to Madrid. He's gone to PSG to retire
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Post by Glory on Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:55 pm

ES wrote:Remember when United fans were hyped of Martial because he had Ballon D'Or clauses rofl

They got fleeced good Laughing


Watch Martial take off this season. He is showing some flashes of absolute quality during some of these preseason games. Clearly on the right track.
In terms of raw skill, there arent lot of players who are better.
If Martial somehow ends up being a flop at United, I am sure Mourinho will definitely be one of the big reasons.
Even then the kid is only 21 and can resurrect his career somewhere under a coach who will give him confidence.
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Post by Curtinho on Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:24 am

Martial is not close to one of the top talents in the world. Get over him please.

As for future Ballon d'Or winners...I could see Neymar winning one with PSG. I'm in the camp that thinks Mbappe is being overhyped. He's still very young. It wasn't so long ago that Raheem Sterling was lighting up the PL playing for a very offensively oriented team as an 18 year old. Sometimes players peak early. Let's wait and see if he can actually build on his play from last season.

There are a lot of massive talents at Kylian's age still, and lots of big talents that are a bit younger. Federico Valverde, Jadon Sancho, Vinicius Jr., Justin Kluivert, Cheick Toure, etc. etc. We're living in an age where there is such an influx of money, training and talent in soccer that I doubt we'll ever see the same kind of dominance displayed by Messi and Ronaldo ever again. Too many elite players makes it even harder to stand out as they have.

Though again, Neymar is the next best thing and he may be on the same level as they are already. Internationally he's certainly more effective than either. Wouldn't be surprised if as the star and focal point at PSG that he eclipses them both this year.

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Re: Name players winning Balon d'Or before Neymar

Post by Thimmy on Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:44 am

@zigra wrote:
@Thimmy wrote:
@Bankz wrote:Neymar lol. If they were thesame age, it would have being a no brainer for neymar, lol. I think that is pretty much clear. However, the single most important advantage for mbappe has nothing to do with his abilities personally but the simple fact that he will be emmerging at a time where messi and ronaldo have both past their primes. That in and of itself alone already gives mbappe a luxury and an advantage that neymar never enjoyed and when you couple that with the fact that mbappe is 7 years younger than neymar then i think the answer is easy.


He also has the advantage that there are relatively few elite forwards worth mentioning right now. In fact, I can't remember the last time there were so few top class strikers in football.

????


I honestly can't tell whether this is one of your usual, douchy one-liners, or if you're actually confused about something Razz

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