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Post by titosantill on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:29 pm

@Nishankly wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Jose Mourinho says some clubs are paying "too much"and are creating a "very strange and out-of-control" market.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40721040

Career spend on transfers:

Mourinho - £1.18 billion.
Guardiola - £850m
Wenger - £732m
Conte - £440m
Klopp - £284m
Pochettino - £232m


i'm surprised klopp has spent that much, then again maybe cos i've hardly followed his bundesliga time/career. wenger i can understand, he's been managing for a very long time, 2 million here 4 million there, 10 here, and some high amounts like the 40 for ozil, and the price for alexis, i get it, over 20 years managing, yeah i understand that.

lol guardiola and mou though, 850 million, he hasn't even been coaching for ten years lol, and he took a sabbatical, even. mou too, lol, 1 billion? dang....i guess "tacticians" really need these players

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Post by Blue Barrett on Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:05 pm

Yes, Jose and Pep tend to spend a lot quite often. But I don't get this idea among football fans that if you can't make shit players produce legendary performances week in week out then you're not as good a manager. No matter what tactics you use, sometimes some players are just shit and there's nothing you can do about it. Can't make a horse roar, can't make a cat bark.

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Post by Luca on Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:20 pm

@Blue Barrett wrote:Yes, Jose and Pep tend to spend a lot quite often. But I don't get this idea among football fans that if you can't make shit players produce legendary performances week in week out then you're not as good a manager. No matter what tactics you use, sometimes some players are just shit and there's nothing you can do about it. Can't make a horse roar, can't make a cat bark.


More than that, many of these top managers take on positions at big clubs with the idea that they'll be able to build the squad their way.

The list is flawed because it fails to consider the idea that the reason these managers have spent the most is because they've also managed a greater number of clubs. Like no kidding that during Mourinho's two tenures at Chelsea, stint at Inter and Real Madrid he spent money. The same goes for Guardiola.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:01 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:According to Spanish sources, Chelsea have contacted Madrid about Bale, and Madrid are listening due to their advanced contact with Mbappe and the fact that they might need to sell one of the BBC.

They also explain that the bad relationship between man utd and Madrid is the reason why moi made those comments to bale "I can't sign you because you don't talk" ie unless Bale does ask that we negotiate with united we won't deal with them. They also mention that Mourinho is aware Chelsea are talking to Madrid.

Hazard-Morata-Bale

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why you gotta be a tease like this. why you teasing me?
if we could sell off bale and replace with dembele THIS summer.
would be considered one of the best transfer windows if legit.
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Post by titosantill on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:18 am


yes some players are just shit but 1 billion euros in 17 years as a coach? technically 13, cos most of his spending spree started at chelsea. 840 million in 9 years? even if this is the era of madness for transfers, a lot of problems on the field can be solved with that kind of money. btw mourinho is part of the reason for this hiked market, he started the era of signing substitutes/back up players for huge fees

all i'm saying is those numbers are interesting, especially for the number of years they've been coaching, and the bulk of those signings have been their signings, very rarely is it management. ferguson spent a lot too, all top coaches have spent.....but almost a billion euros and a billion euros? with the resources, the talent, u'd have to be a buffoon not to achieve any success
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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by Kick on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:23 am

We're not signing Bale Laughing

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:24 am

Like you are not paying 80 mil for Morata? thought you guys would learn Laughing

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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by Kick on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:33 am

The only way we'd sign Bale is if he went on the cheap, which he won't.

Chelsea paid what they had to for Morata because we needed Morata, we don't need Bale.

Bale would be more like the James deal than the Morata one.

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Post by Blue Barrett on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:39 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Like you are not paying 80 mil for Morata? thought you guys would learn Laughing

It's not that Chelsea fans wouldn't want Bale. He'd be an unreal addition to our attack. No sane Chelsea fan would say they prefer Pedro/Willian to Bale.

But we're trying to spend big on Alex Sandro after spending big on Morata. It's very unlikely that we'd spend big AGAIN on a Bale, especially considering we have to buy a third striker, a RWB and a CM before the window closes.

And then there's also the small issue of Bale's connection to Spurs, although that may not matter but I think he'd want to go to United if he's coming back to England rather than piss off Spurs fans. But maybe that one is a stretch.

Anyway, that's the reality of things. I'd be completely shocked if Bale to Chelsea ever happens. It's a nothing rumour imo.

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Post by Blue Barrett on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:40 am

@Kick wrote:The only way we'd sign Bale is if he went on the cheap, which he won't.

Chelsea paid what they had to for Morata because we needed Morata, we don't need Bale.

Bale would be more like the James deal than the Morata one.

Exactly. If Madrid agree to give us Bale on a deal like the James to Bayern deal then it will probably happen. But we're not shelling out 80 odd million for Bale or whatever it is they'll be asking for.

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Post by Kick on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:44 am

@Blue Barrett wrote:
@Kick wrote:The only way we'd sign Bale is if he went on the cheap, which he won't.

Chelsea paid what they had to for Morata because we needed Morata, we don't need Bale.

Bale would be more like the James deal than the Morata one.

Exactly. If Madrid agree to give us Bale on a deal like the James to Bayern deal then it will probably happen. But we're not shelling out 80 odd million for Bale or whatever it is they'll be asking for.


Agreed, I'd gladly take Bale on a two year loan with an option to buy for 45m Laughing

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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by titosantill on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:46 am

lmao, we where desperate to let james go which was why that crap deal happened. a loan deal to chelsea? knock it off. i doubt we'll sell him
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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by Blue Barrett on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:47 am

@Kick wrote:
@Blue Barrett wrote:
@Kick wrote:The only way we'd sign Bale is if he went on the cheap, which he won't.

Chelsea paid what they had to for Morata because we needed Morata, we don't need Bale.

Bale would be more like the James deal than the Morata one.

Exactly. If Madrid agree to give us Bale on a deal like the James to Bayern deal then it will probably happen. But we're not shelling out 80 odd million for Bale or whatever it is they'll be asking for.


Agreed, I'd gladly take Bale on a two year loan with an option to buy for 45m Laughing

GLADLY. Imagine pulling that off and then pulling off Matic + 30m for Sandro. Would be the best transfer window we've ever had. But neither of that is going to happen tbqh Laughing

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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by Blue Barrett on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:48 am

@titosantill wrote:lmao, we where desperate to let james go which was why that crap deal happened. a loan deal to chelsea? knock it off. i doubt we'll sell him

Well there's no reason to want to let Bale go unless you're desperate to sell him lol so if those rumours are popping up and they have some teeth then maybe you in fact are. Seems like you guys are really desperate to get golden boy Mbappe.

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Post by titosantill on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:54 am

james was lower than morata in the pecking order as far as starts are concerned last season. if we sold morata for 80, why would we do loan with option to buy for bale? as far as mbappe, he's good for his age i guess....but i really can't comprehend this staunch desire for him. monaco are doing what's right by trying to cash in. but this kid isn't even 19. i wonder if the market will ever stabilize or if 70 million pounds starts to become the norm for above average to good players
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Post by Kick on Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:57 am

@titosantill wrote:james was lower than morata in the pecking order as far as starts are concerned last season. if we sold morata for 80, why would we do loan with option to buy for bale? as far as mbappe, he's good for his age i guess....but i really can't comprehend this staunch desire for him. monaco are doing what's right by trying to cash in. but this kid isn't even 19. i wonder if the market will ever stabilize or if 70 million pounds starts to become the norm for above average to good players


The Market is never going down, it never has and never will.

I also said I'd take a deal like James for Bale, not that it is likely Wink

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Post by Blue Barrett on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:14 am

@titosantill wrote:james was lower than morata in the pecking order as far as starts are concerned last season. if we sold morata for 80, why would we do loan with option to buy for bale? as far as mbappe, he's good for his age i guess....but i really can't comprehend this staunch desire for him. monaco are doing what's right by trying to cash in. but this kid isn't even 19. i wonder if the market will ever stabilize or if 70 million pounds starts to become the norm for above average to good players

Bottom line, Bale to Chelsea for big money is never going to happen. We have other needs to address.

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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by Perucho21 on Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:05 pm

What exactly is Barca DNA? Does he crowd referees frequently asking for yellow/red card to opponents?

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Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

Post by Blue Barrett on Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:11 pm



Sandro to Chelsea? #FreeSandro

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Post by Warrior on Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:25 pm

More like Asamoah to Bursaspor
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Post by chemicalboy99 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:03 pm



Pretty unlucky getting flu on the final day of your 4 week holiday in the sun when all you want to do is go back to your club and train.

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Post by Myesyats on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:37 pm

@Perucho21 wrote:What exactly is Barca DNA? Does he crowd referees frequently asking for yellow/red card to opponents?

Having Barca DNA: being someone who takes initiative, plays the ball rather than waits for it and always looks for the opposition’s goal.

Thats how its described on Barca's official site, no kidding Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:41 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@Perucho21 wrote:What exactly is Barca DNA? Does he crowd referees frequently asking for yellow/red card to opponents?

Having Barca DNA: being someone who takes initiative, plays the ball rather than waits for it and always looks for the opposition’s goal.

Thats how its described on Barca's official site, no kidding Laughing



You have got to be kidding me lmao.

There's actually a description of Barca DNA on the clubs official site?

Now i have seen everything.

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Post by Winter is Coming on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:43 pm

They have that on the official site and they still sign Turan, Gomez, Alcacer, Vidal, Digne, Douglas, etc. rofl

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Post by Unique on Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:01 pm

reports saying now the vvd deal to Liverpool is back on. why didn't saints just sell him to us in the first place. :facepalm:

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Post by Robespierre on Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:50 pm

Lol after Chelsea-Inter, most United most  fans on Redcafe want Perisic , while before he was loathed Laughing
That' s why most English ppl don't watch Serie A and everything is based on prejudices, then it happens that Perisic destroyes best English team in a friendly match and the opinions are twisted. It's hilarious tbh
It 'd be enough to log in on Goallegacy to know the International football with a good degree of accuracy IMO.
Anyway Spalletti said that he is intended to oppose to sale just yesterday , that's my hope

Di Maria - Bale bids made by United are fake no ?
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