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Post by GiancarloC on Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:30 pm

Kalinic is only getting older and he was slowing down. So I think the best you can expect from him is slow and awkward. He will sit away on the bench most of the season, because I think Cutrone will continue to progress. Waste of 25 million really.

Our mercato is most likely closed. Sorry to say that.

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Post by Dante on Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:10 pm

@IrasMaldinista wrote:
@Dante wrote:As for main man Kalinic , Iras' describing him as bad gave me such an idea , i chuckle even thinking about it .. I could follow in the footsteps of my hero Chad and be the champion of Kalinic in GL ; procceeding to always praise him no matter how he played , use the words sheeptards and idiots a lot , shit on Suso (Isco parallel) because reasons and then finally close posts with , this section rofl.

Everyone's entitled to stick to their opinions, and I take no offense in your calling me an average fan, because I am perhaps one; still, I consider it beneath me to be biased about Milan in this forum. Here, everyone's supposed to love this club unconditionally, so, while we cheered insanely after the Bonucci game-changer, it's also fair that we take advantage of this safe, intimate environment to criticize our club ruthlessly as well. Who should if not us?

Right , i don't know what this is tbh. This had nothing to do about you Iras Laughing

I meant exactly what i described , that word gave me the idea of a persona to troll Giancarlo , pls tell me you don't know about Chad and Benzema ? Iras pls

Anyway . As for the rest , it's funny you bring this up , the fan part and all .. Imo you can be as biased or unbiased you think you should be and also criticize our club ruthlessly if you so wish , you do your thing . As for me , i've had my fill of criticism and serious football talk and good discussions about all things football . All i care about nowdays is watching the games and supporting the team , i've reached a point where i think the rest completely redundant .

This had me worrying a little over the summer and i am currently struggling with my GL self as to what to do about it . I mean i'll talk seriously about Milan , maybe other things too here and there but idk . My perception on football has changed , aside from Milan which is my passion , it's just entertainment for me now , i don't care to talk football or whatever. It's something i need to figure out , what this means for me with regards to the forum. I clearly don't take the forum seriously anymore and although i enjoyed myself playing around in the meantime , i don't think i have the will to go on like this. But anyhow , just want to say it's fine with me however our views disagree , i may push it with Kalinic here and there lol but it has nothing to do with you , or Giancarlo tbh.

As for the mercato , not much of it left , i am personally very satisfied even if my wish with Belotti never materialised . My only wish for this summer now is to see Niang gone tbh lol , but even if he stays it won't be enough to ruin this summer for me . Now if we can sign another player somewhere , well i am all for it , but in any case we've done more than a job this summer whether we do or not.

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Post by GiancarloC on Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:15 pm

We are way to thin in the attack and midfield to be satisfied. That simply means accepting things as they are. With this squad, an EL position is the best possibility.

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Post by Dante on Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:25 pm

That simply means i missed maybe 4 games last season and when i tell you i am satisfied with the progress made in comparison , i am like i say , very satisfied . And when i remember recent transfer windows , again it means i am very satisfied. And when i remember that teams don't just have summers like this as if it's something normal , it again means what exactly was written there , very satisfied .

We get it you the hard critic isn't , pls decide for yourself and i will do as well for me thank you. And as has been frequent this summer , you wrong again ; an EL is the worst this team can manage. Best is CL place .

and guess who will lead us there

who else Molenation

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Post by GiancarloC on Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:33 pm

That's your position.

And how have I been wrong this summer? On what? Kalinic? I thought we aim higher than a slow unskilled cumbersome Croatian... But I guess we really don't have the money anymore.

One injury crisis away from a catastrophe. And you fail to see it.

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Post by giovanni_milan on Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:59 pm

cant ask for depth after 11 signings honestly...rome wasnt built etc etc

they will have a chance to address depth in the upcoming windows
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Post by GiancarloC on Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:04 pm

Can't ask for depth? Wow. Great logic. When we have injuries, I will guess what you will ask for.

We needed it now or we will miss out on the CL.

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Post by giovanni_milan on Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:48 pm

Relax, weve played two games and won both
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Post by GiancarloC on Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:45 pm

As if that is an indicator for the entire season... It isn't.

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Post by zenmaster on Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:16 am

One game at a time. Also the problem which we see , wont go away. And then there are lot of parameters , which includes form , coordination , injury.

Lets see how it goes.

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Post by IrasMaldinista on Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:22 pm

What a disgusting, toothless, pathetic Azzuri!

I wish I hadn't seen the game. Terrible performances from Italy's terrible right hand side, Candreva and Darmian, and Immobile and Belotti were like two parked cars up there who made Darmian look great.

Key questions:

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(And this is the most important question) Does Italy REALLY have absolutely no attacking midfielders to link the midfield and attack, to feed the wingers and strikers? I know Bonaventura is injured, but how about Soriano? How about Saponara? Even Verdi would've done a job to make Italy look at least better, if not good enough.

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Against a phenomenally talented midfield comprising Busquets, Iniesta and Koke, complemented by David Silva and [the utterly unplayable] Isco further forward, how retarded should a manager be to only field De Rossi as a defensive midfielder while two strikers were up there doing NOTHING at all to stifle the opposition's smooth, free movement? It was painful to see Italy's midfield so embarrassingly bullied and overrun.

3. In football, you always have to use your strongest players in the starting XI. If you have five great defenders and three good midfielders, you can't afford to field three of the former and five of the latter. Were the players in the field really the best Italian football has to offer? For instance, wouldn't Conti and Bernardeschi have done an incomparably better job than Darmian and Candreva? Or, would it have hurt to be more conservative and add Rugani in to contain Spain's attacks?

4. Has Ventura been diagnosed with acute dementia yet? 'Cause his intelligence and abilities as the coach of four-time world champions left me shocked and devastated.

I love la Nazionale and I couldn't bear to see them get torn apart from start to finish like that. Someone must do something about the situation, and FAST, because there's the risk of Italy repeating in WC18 what Spain did in WC14.

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Post by GiancarloC on Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:30 am

Ventura played the wrong formation. Bonucci, Verratti... these are class players. But they were played in an awkward formation, and obviously did not shine. De Rossi was basically left to cover the defense all by himself and he doesn't have the pace to do that anymore.

Why Ventura in his mind wanted to go with a 2 man midfield against a team like Spain away is beyond me. Bernadeschi though did much of nothing when he went on.

You don't play 4-2-4 away... in fact it isn't that good of a formation anyways and it has to stop. Losing the extra midfielder simply doesn't work for Italy and it never willl.

This is mostly Ventura's fault... he thinks De Rossi is another Scirea and that Italy's attack is like Pele's Brazil.

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Post by Kaladin on Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:41 pm

What a terrible lineup

1-0 to Laxio, questions need to be raised on Montella

Have we regressed?

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Post by Kaladin on Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:44 pm

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Post by M99 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Disgraceful defending. Also why in the world is Borini a starter after we spent 200 million on the squad.

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Post by JespSwe on Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:25 pm

last season it was understandable to get this kind of result, but third game of this season and this kind of humiliation is unacceptable.... its understandable if we loose games, better to loose with dignity... montella got some serious question to answer, he has no excuses here! to a lazio team who just lost few important players this season!

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Post by Cruijf on Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:58 pm

Borini has no place starting but we would've lost 4-1 even if Neymar was our LW. This was down to a pathetic midfield and shocking defending.

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Post by IrasMaldinista on Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:52 pm

I'm extremely glad with the result today. This was the hard slap our flabby team needed to wake up and take shit seriously. We were awful, awful, awful, AWFUL. And that's good.

Like everyone agrees, the formation was the root of this tragedy. It would be unfair to ask Montella to integrate our numerous new players in a few weeks, as great teams need years to find cohesion and click efficiently, and let's not forget that although Lazio isn't a superpower, it is a well-oiled team characterized by great unity; it must've felt dreamy to them to beat their traitor captain as comprehensively as they did. But, I'm disappointed mostly in the fact that Montella left so many good players - starter material - on the bench; and I don't mean Jose Mauri.

Lazio were happy to give us all the freedom in the world in the middle to hit us on the counter. They had five defenders FFS. Question is: did we need two holding midfielders on the pitch simultaneously? It was pure overkill. Obviously Montolivo is in great shape and scoring at an unbelievable rate, so why not start him as the anchorman and introduce the un-match-fit Biglia in the 60th minute?

As for Borini, I'm tired of seeing him start already. The man is no professional footballer; God knows how he's played for Liverpool, Chelsea and Milan. We have that gem of a footballer, Andre Silva, who can easily activate our pathetic left wing like CR7 has been doing his whole career. And we know Bonaventura's corpse plays better than Borini. A 4-2-3-1 would've been perfect today as we didn't need midfielders against Lazio.

Finally, let's face it: Calabria isn't, at least not YET, a good enough player for Milan. Abate would've given us way more guarantees. We seem to be extremely feeble for now, so we need all the assurance we can get from proven players.

I know our team is very much a work in progress and it takes at least one full season for these guys to get to know each other, but playing second-rate players when we don't have a life-and-death game in midweek to justify some rotation was terrible decision-making on Montella's part. It's worth mentioning that Rocchi's refereeing was, true to form, a horror show. And VAR didn't do shit when it should've. But, like Cruijf rightly pointed out, maybe even Neymar couldn't've saved us from today's, I repeat, necessary misery.

Montella, I'm confident, knows far better than someone like me what exactly went on today in Roma, and he must already feel endangered. We have no time to waste, and we can't afford to lose 4-1 when Abate, Silva, Locatelli, Bonaventura, and Calhanoglu, were sitting pretty on the bench INEXPLICABLY.

Back to the drawing board, signor allenatore.

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Post by IrasMaldinista on Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:53 pm

The brace was only Kalinic's reward for a fantastic game; nothing more. It may not've looked like it today, but he's, at times, rather too selfless. He had two Super Pippo-esque goals, or more accurately, Raul-esque (given that Raul remains the best rebound specialist in football history). I was mostly happy about the fact that Kalinic displayed everything they said he would: endless running, artistic off-the-ball movement, hold-up play, etc. That he scored two is just spectacular.

Meanwhile, Biglia is growing into a vital cog for the new Milan. He is simply unable to lose the ball or misplace a pass. Conversely, Bonaventura continued his poor form, Suso did not look comfortable AT ALL as a second striker, and Romagnoli's brilliant pass to Lasagna will be one for the ages.

I liked our Milan, all in all. The team seems to know what it should do, and let's not forget that we lost Conti and Biglia, Jack and Kalinic are not yet at peak condition. It seems like the 3-5-2, which was more often 3-3-4 than 5-3-2, is working like a charm for us. Happy for the three points, and let's hope we'll add another three on Wednesday against Spal.

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Post by uzonero on Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:20 pm

What i admired about Montella from his first season was his ability to integrate youngsters into the first team but he has shown so far with his player choices that is a mid table level coach. Even with his substitutions, he has shown reactiveness instead of proactivity.

On the market, I think we shot ourselves on the foot when we signed Bonucci. Trust me this is no knee jerk, I never saw him as worldclass and i think his signing really messed up our plans both on the market and on the field. Before Bonucci, no one ever thought about playing 3 atb but since we signed Bonucci we now have to adapt to a new formation which doesn't suit our best players from last season

I think what we should have done was build on last season instead of trying to change things just to suit an overhyped player. I think we'd have been fine with Mus - Roma pairing had we not gotten Bonucci. Our major failing on the market was failing to get a good LW for our 4-3-3 formation

I know it's still quite early in the eyes of many but loosing this game has killed our chances of finishing top three cause I see us still dropping 6 points in the next two games

I can't really point out a remedy for the next few games cause the squad is a whole lot disjointed as it is but I'd prefer if we could switch back to a 4-3-3 and field a LW that isn't Borini until we can intervene on the market again
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Post by Kaladin on Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:56 pm

Lads send your shoutouts for manager, whats the rage these days

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Post by JespSwe on Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:58 pm

bonaventura can play LW he was playing that position last year.. dont see the complication but montella has lost it atm...

any more loss and he would be looking at a sack... lack of LW, or having to integrate suso is a problem but thats why montella is a coach, he needs to understand

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Post by Luca on Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:40 pm

ES wrote:Lads send your shoutouts for manager, whats the rage these days


http://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/chelsea-conte-mi-manca-litalia-tornero-presto

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Post by giovanni_milan on Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:17 pm

Thats a big comment from conte wow

We have made initial contact with Ancelotti as well

Montella has three-five games to step it up or Fassobelli will swing their axe
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Post by Rossonero23 on Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:01 pm

montella sucks, but the team isnt very good. midfield is still garbage, defense has sucked.

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