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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:46 pm

Think it was obvious Mina was gone the minute they signed the lad from Sevilla whose name escapes me hmm

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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:47 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Think it was obvious Mina was gone the minute they signed the lad from Sevilla whose name escapes me hmm


Lenglet, he didn't destroy Manchester United at the theatre of dreams under the tutelage of Vincenzo Montella to face such disrespect
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:48 pm

Carried by the great mind of Montella tbh.

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Post by Robespierre on Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:13 pm

Lol I bumped this thread after months because there were rumours about Inter on him....and at the end he is going to Barcellona

Thank you cule' though, it is better Barca than Roma. At least I can't gnaw for it now
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by Myesyats on Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:31 pm

The Brazilian will sign a contract for 5 seasons and will earn around €5m a year. Barça will pay €41m to Bordeaux and the Catalan club is already working on the official announcement. [@brunoandrd]

he'll join Barca for the US tour.


good signing to put some pressure on Meltbele.
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Post by BarcaLearning on Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:05 pm

Feel bad for Mina, he must be shown Barca hes not good enough during training, since in the games we have seen him he hasnt looked that bad to be gave up so fast?

So we getting some more attackers, although not sure how strong defensively Arthur is, since with Busquets aging, we seem to need a bit of balance in midfield.

Anyway, I believe this was a good deal for the 'low' fee nowadays and mainly because Monchi wanted the guy, so it should be a reliable judgement on potential :p
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by Freeza on Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:39 am

"Easy to explain"

Talks for 8 minutes

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Re: Malcom watch

Post by danyjr on Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:56 am

I hope Bordeaux get fined hard for this. Pleb behaviour.

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:28 am

Bordeux offered Roma a chance to raise their bid and they didn't match what Barca were willing to pay. It wasn't as unfair and controversial as you make it out to be IMO.
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:53 am

Thing is, they already matched Barca's initial bid. But Barca raised it again. Roma aren't as rich as Barca. There's only so many times they can raise their bids.

Besides there was already an agreement but I don't expect Barca to understand that. They have been handed so many Ls in the transfer markets by PSG and RM etc that they had to bully a smaller team like Roma to finally get a win. Sad.

All they are doing is causing more teams to alienate them. Why do you think PSG and Santos are refusing to sell you players?

PS: they (Roma) don't have the ability to loan money to pay for transfers and wages without attracting the attentions of the FFP brigade
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by rincon on Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:57 am

Bordeaux agreed to a deal, closed it, and they themselves announced it publicly using Roma's name against their wishes. Then they took a different but after both clubs had made it official and a plane was booked. Told Roma to match it, they even did. Then they said no again.

Not unfair or controversial Laughing

I don't know or care what will happen, Roma surely will try to get them fined. Regardless of what happens with that, it's clear Boudeaux are acting like asses.
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Post by Unique on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:00 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:Thing is, they already matched Barca's initial bid. But Barca raised it again. Roma aren't as rich as Barca. There's only so many times they can raise their bids.

Besides there was already an agreement but I don't expect Barca to understand that. They have been handed so many Ls in the transfer markets by PSG and RM etc that they had to bully a smaller team like Roma to finally get a win. Sad.

All they are doing is causing more teams to alienate them. Why do you think PSG and Santos are refusing to sell you players?

PS: they (Roma) don't have the ability to loan money to pay for transfers and wages without attracting the attentions of the FFP brigade
people that live in a glass house should not throw stones. Wink

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Post by Unique on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:03 am

the reason the guy is at barca and not roma is because he chose to go to barca. the bids didnt matter. if barca had even bid a few mill lass than roma he would he still ended up at barca so its the player thats the turn coat

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:07 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:Thing is, they already matched Barca's initial bid. But Barca raised it again. Roma aren't as rich as Barca. There's only so many times they can raise their bids.

Besides there was already an agreement but I don't expect Barca to understand that. They have been handed so many Ls in the transfer markets by PSG and RM etc that they had to bully a smaller team like Roma to finally get a win. Sad.

All they are doing is causing more teams to alienate them. Why do you think PSG and Santos are refusing to sell you players?

PS: they (Roma) don't have the ability to loan money to pay for transfers and wages without attracting the attentions of the FFP brigade

It's not Barca's fault Bordeaux can't keep their word.

And what Ls have been handed to Barca by PSG and RM??? lol RM hasnt been truly active on the market since 2014 and PSG ignoring our offers for Silva and Verratti??? that's doing us a favor, not giving us an L Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:08 am

@Unique wrote:
@halamadrid2 wrote:Thing is, they already matched Barca's initial bid. But Barca raised it again. Roma aren't as rich as Barca. There's only so many times they can raise their bids.

Besides there was already an agreement but I don't expect Barca to understand that. They have been handed so many Ls in the transfer markets by PSG and RM etc that they had to bully a smaller team like Roma to finally get a win. Sad.

All they are doing is causing more teams to alienate them. Why do you think PSG and Santos are refusing to sell you players?

PS: they (Roma) don't have the ability to loan money to pay for transfers and wages without attracting the attentions of the FFP brigade
people that live in a glass house should not throw stones. Wink
The only team we don't have a good relationship with is United. And that's because they acted like a small team blaming a fax machine instead of admitting that they didn't want us to buy their player. And the only club that hurts is United. We usually sell our players cheap but we will always quote a record bid when it's United
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:16 am

@Myesyats wrote:
@halamadrid2 wrote:Thing is, they already matched Barca's initial bid. But Barca raised it again. Roma aren't as rich as Barca. There's only so many times they can raise their bids.

Besides there was already an agreement but I don't expect Barca to understand that. They have been handed so many Ls in the transfer markets by PSG and RM etc that they had to bully a smaller team like Roma to finally get a win. Sad.

All they are doing is causing more teams to alienate them. Why do you think PSG and Santos are refusing to sell you players?

PS: they (Roma) don't have the ability to loan money to pay for transfers and wages without attracting the attentions of the FFP brigade

It's not Barca's fault Bordeaux can't keep their word.

And what Ls have been handed to Barca by PSG and RM??? lol RM hasnt been truly active on the market since 2014 and PSG ignoring our offers for Silva and Verratti??? that's doing us a favor, not giving us an L Laughing
Do Barca not have people that read official statements? Both Roma and Bordeux put out official statements that it was done. He was on his way to Roma to sign the documents and in sweeps Barca to turn his head. No self-respecting big team would do that to a smaller team. None.

PSG took Neymar after you unsettled Silva and Veratti. Threatened to take Messi too if you didn't back off their stars. Now refuse to sell you Rabiot who is on their shopping list. We have first refusals on Santos players. Got Rodrygo despite you offering more. No doubt we will continue to get their best players in the future.

All Barca's own doings. We are still bearing the brunt of Valencia's anger over a decade on because they feel they were wronged when we bought Morientes. This isn't something teams forget
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:36 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:Do Barca not have people that read official statements? Both Roma and Bordeux put out official statements that it was done. He was on his way to Roma to sign the documents and in sweeps Barca to turn his head. No self-respecting big team would do that to a smaller team. None.

PSG took Neymar after you unsettled Silva and Veratti. Threatened to take Messi too if you didn't back off their stars. Now refuse to sell you Rabiot who is on their shopping list. We have first refusals on Santos players. Got Rodrygo despite you offering more. No doubt we will continue to get their best players in the future.

All Barca's own doings. We are still bearing the brunt of Valencia's anger over a decade on because they feel they were wronged when we bought Morientes. This isn't something teams forget

All I know is Malcom wanted to go to Barca and no statement could change that. I don't care if rules were breached, not my problem, is it?

PSG didnt take Neymar from us lmao, he expressed the wish to leave and we let him go, there's no point in keeping a player who doesnt want to play for you. Not selling Rabiot, again, is a favor to us, not a hit at us.

As to Rodrygo, obviously we can't buy all talent in the world, we aren't the only team in the world. Instead, we got another young talent. Whatever.
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Post by farfan on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:42 am

Of course it's not your problem, you have absolutely nothing to do with Barça. Laughing  the point is that it was a dick move from an ethical standpoint.

And PSG triggered a release clause, Barcelona had 0 control over the situation.
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Post by danyjr on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:46 am

Barça are not to blame in this case. You could call them opportunists but they haven't put a foot wrong. It is Bordeaux who had more than a gentleman's agreement with Roma but didn't honour it so they could make a few more bucks.

Not having watched Malcom play, I now have watched a few YouTube videos of his skills etc. and he looks like a RW who likes to cut in on his left a lot, thus getting in the way of Coachessi.

To be loaned off to Girona with option to buy for €5m next year :coffee:

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:47 am

@farfan wrote:And PSG triggered a release clause, Barcelona had 0 control over the situation.

I know that..... The point is if Neymar agreed to move then it means he didnt want to play for us which is fine because we are not keeping a player who doesnt want to play for us. We didnt take an L in this situation, in my eyes. We got a lot of money for him.

All Barca fans hate our current management and it's obvious they're idiots but theres nothing we can do about it. They did this "dick move" clearly to piss off Roma for eliminating us.
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Post by Luca on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:53 am

I think it’s a dangerous precedent to be set if clubs are able to officially anounce that a player is being transferred only to sell him to another club at a higher price. It’s like an extremely slimy sales tactic, unsurprisingly a club like Barca is involved here Proud

From asking Demebele to throw fits to bidding for Malcom after his transfer has been announced. Mes que un club indeed
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Post by Art Morte on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:55 am

I wonder how happy Willian is with Chelsea right now that they refused to sell him to Barcelona...
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Post by halamadrid2 on Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:55 am

Roma president goes through the details of the operation

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Let’s start from the beginning,” Pallotta said on SiriusXM FC.

“You wanna talk about Malcom? He’s a young man we’ve been following for about three years or so now.

“Originally some of the stuff came out of our analytics group and [we] liked him a lot. A couple of weeks ago we started some discussions with them and saw that he was available.

“He had been talking to a couple of other teams too, but he definitely wanted to go more for a team that was going to be in the Champions League.

“We had a deal with him. We were expecting him to get on a flight at 10 o’clock, or to arrive at 10 o’clock and a bunch of fans found out about it and were at the airport.

“As far as we were concerned, and the way every other deal has worked in football - or the vast majority of them - he was coming for his medical and then you finish the signing.

“Earlier in the day, in spite of us asking not to, Bordeaux tweeted out that he was going to Roma and also put it on their website.

“We have a tremendous amount of emails and texts and even video conferences with the agents that the deal was done.

“So we’re up at night and the kid doesn’t get on the plane, Bordeaux stop it and we find out that all of a sudden Barcelona have jumped into the mix, no question in my mind unethically and immorally.

“Then that nigh the agent said he’s gonna come to Roma in the morning. We got from Bordeaux that they were going to sign the revised offer, I threw in a couple more million and they said ‘yes, we’ll have it signed and he’s gonna be on a plane at two o’clock'.

“I didn’t sleep much at all, and about three in the morning I got up and started texting with Monchi and Baldini - Franco’s now also on our executive committee - and Monchi’s on video conference with the agent in the morning.

“The agent’s like ‘Monchi, look, look I’m wearing red, the kid is getting on the plane, it’s ok it’s done!’.

“Meanwhile we’re hearing that one of the agents - the Brazilian one of the four agents - is in Barcelona!

“So within a couple of hours he’s not getting on the plane and we don’t have the kid. If you just look at all the stuff that happened, the deal was done.

“My view is that Bordeaux were ridiculous, their actions, and we’ve already spoken to legal. I’m fairly certain that they’re going to be testifying on this and that there’ll be some litigation.

“It’s the same thing for the agents, or at least one of them, we’ve gotten legal advice and there’s going to be some issues there too.

“In terms of Barcelona it looks like a pattern of the last few years of doing things that just should not be done at a club with the reputation that Barcelona intends to have and to be.

“They knew that this was done, and in fact yesterday that apologised to us about their actions and how they did things.

“I don’t accept the apology at all, the only way I’ll accept it is either one of two things: send the player to us - and that’s not going to happen - but maybe as a goodwill gesture, at the very least they could send [Lionel] Messi to us.

“The player wanted to come to us, all of the teams you’re talking about were not having discussions with his agents.

“He was playing one year and had a great year, but at the end of the day there were only a few teams that were really talking to him.

“From what we know that was Everton and Leicester, from what we know the other clubs weren’t having any kind of formal talks.

“We’d also sent over [Federico] Balzaretti who you all know, who works with us, I’m pretty sure he was over there and had some discussions with the kid.

“The deal was completely done - we even had the buyout clauses that we agreed upon!

“I can tell you the buyout clause. We agreed on a $120m [€103m] buyout. The agents insisted that we put that in there, we were like ‘OK, $120m sounds fine to us!’.

“We might want that kid to stay for a long time, but if someone pops up in a couple of years with $120m for him then so be it.

“So this was soup-to-nuts agreed upon, and all of the others you’re talking about were not in there.

“By the way, this isn’t sour grapes at all because I have no problem if we’re battling it out for a player with Inter or Bayern or whoever and we’re all going through the process: fine. That’s the way it works.

“At the end of the day when a deal is done and completely agreed upon… some people say ‘oh it wasn’t formally signed’ but that’s *expletive*, we all know how it works, the kid comes in for the medical and then the signing is done.

“That signing and that agreement is done, other teams know not to come in and do what Barcelona did, Bordeaux should never have been doing that they did - I think that’s illegal never mind unethical and immoral.

“The reason I brought Monchi in is because I think he’s as good as anyone, if not the best, and he’s shown it to me in the first 15 months of cleaning up stuff.

“Before the Malcom piece - and we’re not finished yet - I think Monchi has had as good a transfer market as anyone has had so far.

“In June Radja [Nainggolan] goes to Inter and we get [Javier] Pastore, Marcheno, [Justin] Kluivert - which I think was another big coup - we got this young Croatian kid [Ante] Coric who looked good last night.

“I think if you look at the players we’re bringing in we’ve strengthened our team a lot.

“I’ve got a lot of confidence that Monchi has the ability to talk to players and to get people to want to come to Roma.

“As far as I know - and I don’t have all the details on the agents because I wasn’t dealing with them, Monchi was - there were four of the agents and three were Italian and one was Brazilian.

“One of them was the one who seemed to be the biggest issue. Bordeaux agreed, then they came back and were like: ‘we didn’t sign what we agreed’.

“They asked to put it on their website and to tweet it, that he was going to Rome. They’ve taken it off and deleted the tweet, but it was right there.

“We actually said we preferred not to do it and we’re not going to do something like that because we’re a public company.

“But they wanted to go ahead and do it. Did they do it because they though: ‘ok if we go ahead and put it out this way maybe Barcelona will know that they should do something immediately’?

“Was there collusion? I don’t know, it didn’t seem like that until after the fact.”

A few things:

-money hungry agents are the lowest of the low
-Barca have no idea what they are doing. The only 2 other teams tracking him were Everton and Leicester Laughing they must have jumped in for the cheapest Brazilian that became available
-Is he suggesting possible collusion hmm
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Re: Malcom watch

Post by Myesyats on Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:32 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:they must have jumped in for the cheapest Brazilian that became available

pfft, means nothing. We paid 150 for Dembele and he looks whack. For all we know the 41 mil Malcom might be twice the player in the future.
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