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Post by CBarca Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:02 pm

sportsczy wrote:Dortmund defense has been extremely good this season. Different coach and completely different philosophy Hala.

They've conceded 1 goal total in 6 Bundi games.... which is an achievement considering how Bundi teams play.


Probably based on the Tottenham game. They conceded three and could have conceded 5 or 6. Their defense was absolutely shocking.

If they don't step it up a level Madrid will have no problems scoring. I'm not sure if their defense just had a bad game or what was going on, I don't watch them in Bundi, but they were awful in their previous CL game.

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Post by iftikhar Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:43 pm

No chat???
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:03 pm

Ramos making a goal line save with his hand - clear red and penalty not given

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Post by RealGunner Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:11 pm

Dortmund will concede like 4 this match
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:12 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Ramos making a goal line save with his hand - clear red and penalty not given

What else is new


He didn't save anything. Navas boxed it away from goal onto Ramos' hand. That's not a pen according to the rules.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:26 pm

Save to say Real would have not won any major trophy in the last decade without being massively advantaged by referees
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:32 pm

lmao Aubameyang always reserves his very worst performances for games against Real Madrid. You have to feel for the guy, sabotaging his own dream transfer Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:35 pm

Lol why are Dortmund playing a highline against us Laughing

We need to score another. Dortmund are getting closer to a goal. We need to put some distance between us and them
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:36 pm

When even Ramos is missing sure goals you just know you're in crisis in attack
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Post by Doc Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:37 pm

Well, Ramos should have put this to bed easily. We can't even get headers on target now?! As long as this stands, the Tottenham Madrid ties are gonna be epic. My body is ready...
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:50 pm

We can't hit the target... you can't even get lucky.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:51 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Ramos making a goal line save with his hand - clear red and penalty not given

What else is new


He does this every year against Dortmund. If it's not a hand ball, it's some other red-worthy penalty. Was it last year, or the year before where he got away with that horror tackle? I can't even keep straight in which year he does what anymore, that's how often he gets away with it...
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:51 pm

And also yes I came here for the first time in weeks just to bitch about Ramos. It's my passion.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:32 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:And also yes I came here for the first time in weeks just to bitch about Ramos. It's my passion.


It is the right thing to do
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:44 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Ramos making a goal line save with his hand - clear red and penalty not given

What else is new


He does this every year against Dortmund. If it's not a hand ball, it's some other red-worthy penalty. Was it last year, or the year before where he got away with that horror tackle? I can't even keep straight in which year he does what anymore, that's how often he gets away with it...


You do know he didn't save anything? The ball was going away.

Also, not a penalty according to the rules.

Stop being blindly biased.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:47 pm

You can put your hands in front of your face to protect yourself (other than free kicks). If his hand is in a position that makes his body bigger (to the side in this case) OR he does it intentionally (obviously not), then it's a PK.

Know the rules people. Don't listen to idiot TV commentators.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:50 pm

Freeza wrote:Stop being blindly biased.


I am not blindly biased. I didn't complain too much when scenes much like this lead to Germany exiting the Euros, and I do not echo Hans' comments as to Madrid not winning anything without a ref's help.

But you cannot tell me that you haven't witnessed an exorbitant amount of rules violations by Sergio Ramos, and him having a higher-than-average rate of getting away with it, and this happening in consecutive years against Dortmund. I'm not saying there is a grand conspiracy or anything, I just think it's bullshit, and it annoys me.
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:54 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Freeza wrote:Stop being blindly biased.


I am not blindly biased. I didn't complain too much when scenes much like this lead to Germany exiting the Euros, and I do not echo Hans' comments as to Madrid not winning anything without a ref's help.

But you cannot tell me that you haven't witnessed an exorbitant amount of rules violations by Sergio Ramos, and him having a higher-than-average rate of getting away with it, and this happening in consecutive years against Dortmund. I'm not saying there is a grand conspiracy or anything, I just think it's bullshit, and it annoys me.


First of all. Nothing happened this game. It wasn't a penalty.

And I'm probably the biggest Ramos critic of all. At least on here. But I don't see him getting away with a lot. For every thing he gets away with, he gets a card for some bullshit.

Me and other people on here have a problem with him being rash, unfocused, and feisty. He puts himself into bad positions in regards to fouls.

Ramos has gotten so many wrong red cards and escaped getting a red just as many.

He's gotten a wrong red this year already. Probably due to his reputation.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:39 pm

Of course it was a penalty. A penalty and a red card. He punched the ball away from goal as if it was volleyball.

Everyone knows it, except of course the Madrid fans. And you have the nerve to call others biased Laughing

Real being massively advantaged by refereeing, once again. It's a fact.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:41 pm

To me this is like a hot chick that has It easy in life, we can't help it not our fault


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Post by CBarca Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:41 pm

Bale :bow:

Madrid [fans] haters gtfo tbh
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:52 pm

Bale was very good. Remains to be seen if he's turned a leaf or if it's a one-off because Dortmund's crap defence.

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Post by Doc Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:53 pm

Why I feel Hans is just transferring his anger due to the fact he had to witness Bayern lose 4 matches in a row to Madrid?
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:58 pm

Hans Laughing Are you blind? Like really. He doesn't keep the ball from going in.
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Post by Doc Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:05 pm

Yeah, Navas made the save and he pushed the ball on to Ramos' hand. That was not a penalty. Seriously Hans, you are having Freeza defend Ramos of all people.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:16 pm

Agree, don't think that was a penalty either. Similar to how ball bounces between two players in close proximity touching the arm of a defender who can do nothing about it. You'd have to be clutching at straws to demand a penalty for that. I bet if that Bale fall in the box was by a Dortmund players everybody would be claiming that to be a penalty because he caught Bale's leg and none of the ball.
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