Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

by Robespierre Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:57 pm

STILL UNBEATEN GUYS

by breva Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:02 pm

Heroic Inter victory, Inter still undefeated! Embarassed

by Mr Nick09 Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:19 am

any comments about the Donnarumma/Raoila drama at Milan?

by Luca Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:21 am

Scroll back a page Nick

by Firenze Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:41 am

Luca wrote:http://www.corriere.it/sport/17_dicembre_12/donnarumma-milan-ci-risiamo-raiola-vuole-annullare-contratto-9a8429e8-deb1-11e7-b187-5e2bcfb79ac2.shtml?cmpid=tbd_a2b74636gK

Think there's anything to this?

Basically, Donnarumma [Raiola], is trying to nullify the contract signed this passed summer

"So Gigio, after perceiving three monthly payments, sent a document to the executives in which he claims to have been the subject of psychological pressure"

"Certainly Raiola aims to take away Donnarumma on a free basis (without extension, the contract would expire next June)"

This is insane really. He's collecting his 6M salary with a smile but has the audacity to cite that he was under psychological pressure to sign this new deal from the club. I'm really not sure how Milan fans could stand this, between him and Raiola, its a nasty duo.

PSG bound

Don't blame him at all. Absolute state of that Milan side currently. I'd want out too.Think a judge would nullify the contract on grounds of lining up with Suso and Kalinic too tbh

by Firenze Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:45 am

giovanni_milan wrote:

hes as good as gone, but right now id take 100m for him

I'm sure you would Laughing

the reality is somewhere around the 35-40m mark when he moves.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:47 am

Firenze wrote:
giovanni_milan wrote:

hes as good as gone, but right now id take 100m for him

I'm sure you would the reality is somewhere around the 35-40m mark when he moves.

That's 35-40m for Raiola of course, Milan will get nothing as Donnarumma will leave on a free

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:15 am

Donnarumma has clause of 40 mln , valid if Milan don't qualify in Europe ( I'd say it is possible).

by Luca Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:15 am

Nah, you see, Donnarumma hasn't been immune to the Milan plague this season or previous ones. He hasn't been anything to write home about after signing a contract that puts him in the category of Icardi, Higuain and Dybala in terms of earnings.

He even got his brother a cool 1M per season and a spot on the squad [actually].

He's had no issue collecting these fat wages after signing a contract until 2021, but now there's "psychological pressure", that's appalling.

Anyways, that contract was set to have two release clauses according to the article, I'm unsure if they've been agreed to by both the club and player but essentially:
70M if European places are confirmed- unclear if this is top 4 or EL included
40M if no Europe

Anyways, he has the personality made for PSG. I can already see him putting clauses in his contract that Neymar can't chip the ball over him in training which will directly conflict with clause 36A in Neymar's contract which directly states he can chip the ball over whomever he pleases, whenever he pleases. Solve that one RaiLOLa

by Kaladin Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:40 am

There is no release clause in his contract, i don't know what you all are on about. Sky reported this a few days ago. His price will be communicated by the club.

by Kaladin Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:41 am

Also that report by Corriere is fake, nothing has been done by Raiola. Just paper buzz.

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:35 am

Pardon , I was convinced about clause. Listened in this sunmer. But indeed it is not so.

by breva Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:46 pm

Donnaruma's contract includes a 70-80 million escape clause and it doesn't matter if Milan make or do not make it to the CL.

"Donnarumma: è tutto fatto
Gigio rinnova, clausola da 70 milioni"

"..... è stata fissata una sola clausola rescissoria, attorno ai 70-80 milioni, indipendentemente dalla conquista, o meno, di un posto in Champions...."

http://www.corriere.it/sport/17_luglio_07/tutto-fatto-d3b7eb04-6289-11e7-84bc-daac3beed6c1.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:52 pm

Well 70-80 is not 40 , so much for Donnarumma imo . How much Milan can earn for him ? I'd not pay him tbf
He earns even 6 mln for year

by Kaladin Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:05 pm

breva wrote:Donnaruma's contract includes a 70-80 million escape clause and it doesn't matter if Milan make or do not make it to the CL.

"Donnarumma: è tutto fatto
Gigio rinnova, clausola da 70 milioni"

"..... è stata fissata una sola clausola rescissoria, attorno ai 70-80 milioni, indipendentemente dalla conquista, o meno, di un posto in Champions...."

http://www.corriere.it/sport/17_luglio_07/tutto-fatto-d3b7eb04-6289-11e7-84bc-daac3beed6c1.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

No there isn't, Sky have denied this, stop sprouting your terrible Italian rags

by Luca Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:11 pm

I keep reading conflicting things, mainly that Milan would not sign off on the release clause as proposed by Raiola.

Milan would still do well to dump this poser and sign Brignoli in his place, a true hero of the game

by iftikhar Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:28 pm

Some great match-up in the Coppa:
Fiorentina-Sampdoria
Roma-Torino

I dare say the Napoli, Atalanta and JJ games might throw some typical cup thriller too.

Milan is 50%-50%

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:40 pm

Why 50-50 ? They play also at home.
Ok yesterday it had to be Inter 99.9 % - Pordenone 0,1 % but then just after penalty kicks .. but anyway on paper, Milan have 80 %

by rincon Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:49 pm

Fiore-Samp should be a cool match to watch.

I wouldn't give Milan 80% against anyone right now. Benevento and Rjeka weren't even wins.

by breva Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:06 pm

Kaladin wrote:
breva wrote:Donnaruma's contract includes a 70-80 million escape clause and it doesn't matter if Milan make or do not make it to the CL.

"Donnarumma: è tutto fatto
Gigio rinnova, clausola da 70 milioni"

"..... è stata fissata una sola clausola rescissoria, attorno ai 70-80 milioni, indipendentemente dalla conquista, o meno, di un posto in Champions...."

http://www.corriere.it/sport/17_luglio_07/tutto-fatto-d3b7eb04-6289-11e7-84bc-daac3beed6c1.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

No there isn't, Sky have denied this, stop sprouting your terrible Italian rags

Corriere della Sera is one of the newspapers of record in Italy, i.e. official Government acts are published in it. It is not a "terrible Italian rag". Sky, on the other hand, is known for fake news.

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:36 pm

Sky sport is definitely the most reliable source about sport.
Corriere della Sera is the most reliable thing about politics etc what you want, but not sport

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:41 pm

rincon wrote:Fiore-Samp should be a cool match to watch.

I wouldn't give Milan 80% against anyone right now. Benevento and Rjeka weren't even wins.

It is the Coppa Italia context, the motivations are essential
Imo Hellas ' ll care less than Milan on it , they are fighting for relegation battle.
These teams usually approach to Coppa Italia playing with backups
Pordenone was just Pordenone but they played match of the life

About Fiorentina Sampdoria, I noticed Fiorentina is going to play with his best team while Samp is going to rotate players
It means Fiorentina aims to win Coppa Italia
They don't win a trophy since 2001, there were still Toldo and Rui Costa

by breva Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:01 pm

Sky says the same thing. 50 million if Milan does not reach the CL. It just ads that it's 100 milion if Milan reaches the top 4. So, which is the "Italian rag"?

"Una trattativa chiusa sulla base di sei milioni di euro a stagione (uno in più rispetto alla prima offerta) per i prossimi cinque anni, nel contratto saranno presenti anche delle clausole di risoluzione: 100 milioni il valore se il Milan raggiungerà la qualificazione alla prossima Champions League, 50 milioni, invece, se la società rossonera non arriverà tra le prime quattro squadre nella prossima stagione."

https://sport.sky.it/calciomercato/serie-a/2017/07/03/calciomercato-milan-live-donnarumma-rinnovo.html

by iftikhar Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:05 pm

Robespierre wrote:
rincon wrote:Fiore-Samp should be a cool match to watch.

I wouldn't give Milan 80% against anyone right now. Benevento and Rjeka weren't even wins.

It is the Coppa Italia context, the motivations are essential
Imo Hellas ' ll care less than Milan on it , they are fighting for relegation battle.
These teams usually approach to Coppa Italia playing with backups
Pordenone was just Pordenone but they played match of the life

About Fiorentina Sampdoria, I noticed Fiorentina is going to play with his best team while Samp is going to rotate players
It means Fiorentina aims to win Coppa Italia
They don't win a trophy since 2001, there were still Toldo and Rui Costa

Good times
You forgot Batistuta Heart

Rui Costa was such a classy player, I rated/loved him more than Figo.

by giovanni_milan Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:06 pm

there is no release clause

raiola pushed for one but they ended up signing without it

so much of this is pretty sickening, who thought wed regret giving an 18 year-old 6 mil a year would backfire, let alone giving his bro 1m per year

his play certainly has not justified that since he signed

scratch the 100m, id take 80 for him

someone get buffon on the phone to calm him down

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:08 pm

iftikhar wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
rincon wrote:Fiore-Samp should be a cool match to watch.

I wouldn't give Milan 80% against anyone right now. Benevento and Rjeka weren't even wins.

It is the Coppa Italia context, the motivations are essential
Imo Hellas ' ll care less than Milan on it , they are fighting for relegation battle.
These teams usually approach to Coppa Italia playing with backups
Pordenone was just Pordenone but they played match of the life

About Fiorentina Sampdoria, I noticed Fiorentina is going to play with his best team while Samp is going to rotate players
It means Fiorentina aims to win Coppa Italia
They don't win a trophy since 2001, there were still Toldo and Rui Costa

Good times
You forgot Batistuta
Rui Costa was such a classy player, I rated/loved him more than Figo.

No , simply Batistuta played with Roma in 2000 2001 Very Happy

(and he won Scudetto )

How could I forget that God otherwise ?? Very Happy

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