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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:32 pm

Pep dominant football led by fcking Sterling has swept the EPL. They have literally put everyone on their ass.

12-2 aggregate vs CL teams in EPL

This is embarrassing, in one year we went from top 6 to top 1 rofl and this is a after spending trillions on the transfer market

#PEParmy though Molenation

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Re: The EPL is now a one team league

Post by futbol on Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:47 pm

Fraudiola putting EPL in its place. Molenation

Proof that EPL is an even bigger fraud than Pep. Molenation



That "top 6". rofl

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Post by futbol_bill on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:04 pm

And then there is Sports saying the collective EPL and of course his PSG going to dominate!

Sure looks like the collective EPL is a single, City, team.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:08 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:And then there is Sports saying the collective EPL and of course his PSG going to dominate!

Sure looks like the collective EPL is a single, City, team.


In fairness most of the PL teams have done well in the CL this season.

Means nothing before the KO stages but it's not like City are the only ones who got through their group easily.

Most leagues throughout Europe have pretty meh teams outside the top 3.

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Post by Firenze on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:36 pm

@futbol wrote:Fraudiola putting EPL in its place. Molenation

Proof that EPL is an even bigger fraud than Pep. Molenation



That "top 6". rofl


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Post by Luca on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:47 pm

Didn't Chelsea do quite a good league last season?

City is the only top team in England that can cope with competing on several fronts because of their massive depth
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Post by Firenze on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:49 pm

@Luca wrote:Didn't Chelsea do quite a good league last season?

City is the only top team in England that can cope with competing on several fronts because of their massive depth


think I heard a stat that they won 13 games in a row last season or something similar
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Post by Luca on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:57 pm

@Firenze wrote:
@Luca wrote:Didn't Chelsea do quite a good league last season?

City is the only top team in England that can cope with competing on several fronts because of their massive depth


think I heard a stat that they won 13 games in a row last season or something similar


They did, my question is posed sarcastically because City is just doing what Chelsea dead last season, albeit in a louder way and without sacrificing CL. But I find it hard to really praise teams that drop 200M on full backs and then end of winning matches. All they did was find out the perfect box to box leftback formula and execute it. I mean good for Pep for doing what we've been saying for years but I'll hardly stand and applaud it
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Post by guest7 on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:22 pm

But can he win CL back to back dooeeeeeee
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Post by Winter is Coming on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:24 pm

@Luca wrote:
@Firenze wrote:
@Luca wrote:Didn't Chelsea do quite a good league last season?

City is the only top team in England that can cope with competing on several fronts because of their massive depth


think I heard a stat that they won 13 games in a row last season or something similar


They did, my question is posed sarcastically because City is just doing what Chelsea dead last season, albeit in a louder way and without sacrificing CL. But I find it hard to really praise teams that drop 200M on full backs and then end of winning matches. All they did was find out the perfect box to box leftback formula and execute it. I mean good for Pep for doing what we've been saying for years but I'll hardly stand and applaud it


Well you'd have a point if they were using those fullbacks...

Mendy is injured and has been out since the first 4-5 matches into the season and their using Delph as a false LB.

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Re: The EPL is now a one team league

Post by Luca on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:30 pm

The point is, they've heavily invested and have quality in every area of the field and on the bench but lets not confuse this with doing God's work.

That's the only point
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Post by Winter is Coming on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:34 pm

Yes, but so have many other teams in the PL Laughing

That point should be taken into consideration too.

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Re: The EPL is now a one team league

Post by Doc on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:36 pm

I'll give him credit, Pep has done really well so far this season even if the squad is stacked. I made fun of his trophyless season for just and fair reasons, it's only fair to give him credit for what he has done so far.

Though if he doesn't win the EPL now, he'll be a fraud forever.


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Post by Winter is Coming on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:37 pm

@Doc wrote:I'll give him credit, Pep has done really well so far this season even if the squad is stacked. I made fun of his trophyless season for just and fair reasons, it's only fair to give him credit for what he has done so far.

Though if he doesn't win the EPL now, he'll be a fraud forever.



Agreed.

His fraud status is pending on this.

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Post by Doc on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:44 pm

I do appreciate the fact Liverpool, Burnley and Arsenal are above Tottenham. Warms my heart.

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Post by Luca on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:45 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:Yes, but so have many other teams in the PL Laughing

That point should be taken into consideration too.


I don't know man, he lathered it on pretty thick
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:50 pm

@Doc wrote:I do appreciate the fact Liverpool, Burnley and Arsenal are above Tottenham. Warms my heart.
2 points away and Arsenal vs Liverpool is coming up. Give it 2 weeks and we will be back to normal.

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Post by RealGunner on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:51 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Doc wrote:I do appreciate the fact Liverpool, Burnley and Arsenal are above Tottenham. Warms my heart.
2 points away and Arsenal vs Liverpool is coming up. Give it 2 weeks and we will be back to normal.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:41 am

@Luca wrote:The point is, they've heavily invested and have quality in every area of the field and on the bench but lets not confuse this with doing God's work.

That's the only point


Honestly i'm tired of the money argument tbh. Every side in the top 6 other than Spurs have invested heavily in their team.

It definitely doesn't explain the difference in performance level between City and the rest of the league, we just have to watch how they play to see the manager is doing a damn good job.

Every single City player is performing at a career level, i genuinely don't understand how anyone can watch them play and think "LUL MONEY" it's quite damn obvious that very few managers would have them playing at this level.

He deserved to be criticized last season, but honestly most of the criticism makes no sense what so ever.

I mean they are performing at an all time great level, so much to the point people are comparing them to Arsenal invincibles. None of that can be achieved by just throwing money around, i disagree with the comparisons and think it's way, way too early but it's clear that the level they are playing at is rarely seen in the PL.

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Post by Luca on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:03 am

I’m not disagreeing with their play, it’s been fantastic. Pep with these resources was always going to be a success and I don’t even see last season as one deserving of criticism.

What I’m saying is, Man City has paid and played their way into the big boys of the sport this seaon. To a point that you can expect them to win or rather at some point you’ll fit them into the Barca being Barca or Bayern being Bayern arguments.

In which case, threads like these or the other superlatives we used to describe whichever hot thing in football is the topic- I was really hoping Sturaro versus that 12 year old fan would make more of a boom, won’t be necessary.

And I’m sorry but City’s spending is most definitely at the foundation of their success. That’s not to say other teams don’t have similar investments into their squads but what? 150M on fullbacks in one summer? How many hundreds of millions on midfielders, forwards, central defenders and keepers in the last 2-3 seasons?

Sorry if I’m not on the Pep is elevating the sport wagon. He’s always been a tremendous manager not short of resources and he quite possibly has the most he’s ever had available to him. Doing a PSG in England is a special thing for sure. I’m not trying to come across as a hater and it’s a historical run that City is on but that squad belongs at the top of the table even with Montella in charge, maybe not with as much style though
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:43 am

No one is saying he's elevating the sport though lol.

This is what i mean when i say the criticism is silly.

No manager in history is criticized for such things, every top manager ever had some sort of money advantage relevant to their competition.

No manager in history is criticized for not getting to the CL final, like he was at Bayern.

Some of these things are just flat out stupid, like i said he deserved last year's criticism because it was obvious a lot of the issues were on him but in the main no.

Also the transfers argument is also very stupid tbh, at least as it attains to this season. As i said before the only ones who are actually impacting this season's performances are Ederson and Walker and they are no way more impactful than most other big signings round the league or explain the record breaking start to a season.

Also you known damn well Montella wouldn't have City at the top lol, the man is underperforming in Serie A after spending like 200m ffs.

In fact AC Milan are the very example of why money arguments are inherently stupid.

Also while we are adding things that he's criticized for that no other top manager is, he's now criticized for being on pace for 100+ points :bow:


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Post by Luca on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:54 am

The transfers thing isn’t stupid. That’s still money spent and it’s a lot of money we’re talking about and players that were bought last season or before aren’t far off.

All I’m saying is it’s a super team with a super manager doing super things.

Conte also did a fantastic job last season as well
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:04 am

Nothing like this though.....

City are 9 points ahead of Chelseas record breaking season in 04-05 and 10 points of Arsenal's invincibles.

It's not a valid comparison, also i clearly said this summer. They have gone from 15 points behind the Champions last year to currently being 11 points clear and winning 16 games in a row.

I mean if you think Ederson and Kyle Walker is able to make a 26 point swing then more power to you lol. But it's pretty obvious what the real reasons are.

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Post by Luca on Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:45 am

Well, first of all, Ederson and Walker are both proper buys and function quite well for City. I don't think that's debatable.

What about the flurry of players bought in the last 2-3 years? Sane, Sterling, KDB, Jesus, Gundogan, Stones, Bernardo Silva... then players like Danilo, Mendy, Claudio Bravo

Like the team has spent a ton, and the majority of it on very class young players like Sane, KDB and Sterling.

So, yes. I would stand by saying the foundations of this team's success are most definitely, and humbly, build on the squad of world class players they have acquired in recent times combined with one of, if not the most, brilliant managers in the world. I don't really see the harm in saying that, I don't even mean it in a critical way. I just mean you best be up towards or at the helm of the table if you're investing that kind of money. You would expect that it any league. And the money they spent on fullbacks, central defenders over the years, keepers over the years, its lunacy.
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Post by S on Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:11 am

Pep outspent everyone in the league by a fair bit , even Man United. Like Luca said, he's bought a whole new squad over the last two summers so the foundation had already been laid before this season

Sold no key players unlike his closest rival Chelsea

Stacked up his already over stacked ridiculous depth  but somehow the money argument doesn't apply lol

The least he could do with all this money spent is actually get the best out of them

Also bringing up failures of jabroni managers like Montella to validate your point , really ? But then again, you thought Montella is better than Spalletti so who knows...

He isn't doing anything out of the ordinary although if he manages to win CL, then that will be an extraordinary feat I admit
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