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Post by Collblanc on Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:24 pm

@CBarca wrote:Uhhh what

Like, even if you didn't think Russia killed/injured a double agent/those around the double agent in England, it wouldn't make Russia any less of a current dictatorship and detestable regime who are more than worthy of being boycotted if countries decided to do so.

lol what is this. Collblanc is Russian or something?


Many catalan independence supporters are socialists or Marxists. Many of us believe in cultural relativism and constructivism - meaning no culture (and its government) is "better" then the other and it is a cultural heritage how they behave. Both parties are war criminals. The US and UK propaganda against Russia is horrible imho - who are they to judge and or claim? They, together with Russia, have proven in the past to be not trustworthy. Therefore, I have no trust in the "truth" claimed by UK or US. Following historic dialectism: "truth" is relative, and comes together with narritive. There is no cultural truth, there is no right or wrong. Atleast not in a spectrum, e.g. being more "wrong" then someone else. This is where Spinoza's pantheism / monism comes in place. It is all 1.

I am not pro-Russia, nor am i anti-US or anti-UK. They are all not to be trusted. I just cant believe the anti Russia propaganda that is being slated here, without a critical view on its own countries.

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Post by Perucho21 on Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:12 am

France already making excuses when Peru defeats them 2-0 with a Guerrero brace

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Post by Doc on Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:00 am

@Perucho21 wrote:France already making excuses when Peru defeats them 2-0 with a Guerrero brace

Pretty obvious imo

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Post by iftikhar on Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:14 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:If you're a KGB agent and defect to British Secret Services, being poisoned is fair game IMO. Haven't you seen any movies?
Absolutely no need for all of us innocent and perfectly harmless world citizens to be deprived of our football main event and any gas attack by Russian.
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Post by futbol_bill on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:42 am

@Doc wrote:
@Perucho21 wrote:France already making excuses when Peru defeats them 2-0 with a Guerrero brace

Pretty obvious imo


I was going to say the same, but felt you guys would say I was trolling!
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Post by Unique on Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:13 pm

what i would do if i were pm is ring russia and say we believe your story that you didnt do it. i would let shit die down for about 6 months. then i would send mi6 to russia to kill some spys using nerve gas and when the russians kick off about it i would ring them up again and say im sorry to hear about somthing like this happening on russian soil it must have been done by the same people that killed the russian guy in the UK. Wink

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Unique on Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:14 pm

anyway people should boycott the world cup because its in russia anyway.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:36 pm

As someone who doesn't know and care about politics, please leave my football out of it!
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:53 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:As someone who doesn't know and care about politics, please leave my football out of it!


Everyone should shut up and shoot tbh.

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Post by Myesyats on Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:25 pm

@Betty La Fea wrote:You guys are laughing, but this is quite scary to think how widespread the Russian propaganda network is.

He's being paid, but outside of that there are bots which are programmed to spread the same.

I hope they at least pay him enough to visit Barcelona matches.

I'm not siding with Collblanc and I think marxism (and communism) is a disgusting ideology that has no place in any society but I kinda agree that US and UK aren't saints either and the notion that Russia is the cause of all evil in the world is quite ridiculous.
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Post by S on Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:43 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:As someone who doesn't know and care about politics, please leave my football out of it!
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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by McLewis on Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm

@Unique wrote:anyway people should boycott the world cup because its in russia anyway.


This is pretty much where I am. I don't plan on watching it honestly.

USA getting eliminated only made it easier for me.

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Adit on Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:59 pm

Americans , British and French complaining about aggression on foreign soil Laughing

The irony rofl

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Adit on Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:03 pm

Americans taking moral high ground when they are attacking any country that refuses to trade oil on dollars.

Iraq
Libya
Iran
China
Russia
North Korea
Syria

All of them did a great sin of not trading in dollars to invite American wrath..

Inbefore all countries do that.. No there are 185 countries out there and only greedy countries do that.

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Betty La Fea on Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:50 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:As someone who doesn't know and care about politics, please leave my football out of it!


Why have world cups represented by nations at all if this was the case? The very idea of nations going against each other is political from the start.

If we want politics out of it completely we can have the world cup follow the NBA type of all star game way with team selections. Give the biggest stars roles as captains, and let them pick who they want on their team hmm

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@Unique wrote:anyway people should boycott the world cup because its in russia anyway.


This is pretty much where I am. I don't plan on watching it honestly.

USA getting eliminated only made it easier for me.


I was ready to watch, even after all Russia did, if they didnt poison a man and his daughter in the middle of the UK?

Now it will be really difficult.

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Post by futbol on Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:30 pm

If Russia were involved that guy would be dead.

Must have been some amateurs at work, like CIA.

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by farfan on Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:36 pm

@Adit wrote:Americans , British and French complaining about aggression on foreign soil Laughing

The irony rofl


I feel like I just slipped into a parallel universe where drone strikes aren't a thing. Laughing but maybe taking out an entire building complex full of civilians just to kill your enemy is more humane than poisoning a guy...
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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Doc on Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:53 pm

@Adit wrote:Americans , British and French complaining about aggression on foreign soil Laughing

The irony rofl

I mean, the Brits and French tend to forget their colonial days a lot. And well, the bombs America drops are the freedom bombs that help with democracy. Nothing to see here really.

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:58 pm

I don't think anyone will object if England, France and Germany drop out. Brazil will win it anyways.

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Unique on Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:33 pm

the question is would russia be happy if the US or UK was knocking off spys with nerve gas in moscow.

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Pedram on Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:20 pm

@Adit wrote:Americans , British and French complaining about aggression on foreign soil Laughing

The irony rofl


Shh you aren't allowed to call out hypocrisy, that's "whataboutism", a deflection tactic used by the Soviet Union. /s

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Post by GiancarloC on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:07 pm

I learn to stay away from politics, but Russia is vile in both its government policy and foreign policy, and if anyone thinks that the west is as vile as that is grossly mistaken. I am not going to sit here and say the US or UK are angels, but get real.

Anti-Russian propaganda? Open your eyes, collblanc. These are simple facts that are being discussed. The US and the UK aren't at subject here. Maybe Russia needs to mind its own business and not interfere with elections. The difference between the US and Russia is simple... there are actual elections (look at Pennsylvania's recent election for example).

Russian influence in various parts of the world has led to significant disaster (and I'm not downplaying America's mess in Afghanistan or Iraq either).

I will boycott Russia (specifically its government) because it treats people like me like subhuman garbage. There is no reason why I should give any respect to that rotten government. If you're going to tell me "well the US and UK are just as bad", I'll simply tell you open your eyes please. No they aren't. Trump will be out of office soon enough and so will the republicans (that election in conservative Pennsylvania where they spent $14 million trying to hold one seat, shows how bad it really is for them).

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:56 pm

@Perucho21 wrote:France already making excuses when Peru defeats them 2-0 with a Guerrero brace
inb4 guerrero gets caught doping in the WC and gets kicked out

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:16 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Perucho21 wrote:France already making excuses when Peru defeats them 2-0 with a Guerrero brace
inb4 guerrero gets caught doping in the WC and gets kicked out


thought he was banned due to cocaine? hmm

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:21 am

oh I thought he served out his sentence since Perucho was implying he was going to the WC, but it looks like he's gonna miss it on the cocaine ban

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Re: Rumors of WC boycott starting to pick up

Post by Zagadka on Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:17 pm

Before every tournament, these talks happen.

South Africa and Brazil are among the top two most crime-ridden countries on earth, the tournaments went smoothly. France had been struck with terrorist attacks before Euro 2016, the tournament went smoothly, same happens with Russia. I have gotten tickets to some matches and just received my fan ID in the mail.

Plus, I'd take Russia's "aggression" of allegedly poisoning a traitor and annexing Crimea without firing a shot than America/UK/France' aggressions of droning those who want dead and invading helpless countries resulting in massacre of hundreds of thousands. The Russian aggression, which of course happens, tends to have fewer casualties and long-term pain. One evil empire (USSR) down, one more to go hopefully (USA).

Seven years ago, France/UK/US (the ones crying here) did this in name of liberating Libya, and brought back slave markets and slavery to the region as a result.




Fifteen years ago, ditto with Iraq. Their claims and allegations have zero credibility for anyone with IQ above the room temperature.

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