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UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 9:39 am



Dont @me with 'too soon' 'unnecessary' etc. Have been waiting to make this thread for a long time. Now that the league seasons have ended, i thought this would be an appropriate time.

Basically already 19 teams from the Top 5 leagues have qualified directly to the Champions league. In total, 26 teams have already booked their CL berth.

Lets break down the  new rules now just as a recap for everybody :

For 2018/19 they will be ...

  • UEFA Champions League holders (1)
  • UEFA Europa League holders (1)
  • Top four from associations ranked 1st to 4th: Spain, England, Italy, Germany (16)
  • Top two from associations ranked 5th and 6th: France, Russia (4)
  • Champions of associations ranked 7th to 10th: Portugal, Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey (4)






  • If the UEFA Champions League holders have qualified for the group stage via their domestic championship, the vacancy will be filled by the champions of the association ranked 11th (Austria), who otherwise compete in the champions path


Since Real Madrid and Liverpool have already qualified via the league, this confirms Red Bull Salzburg's place in the Champions League next season





  • If the UEFA Europa League holders have qualified for the group stage via their domestic championship, the vacancy will be filled by the third-placed club from the association ranked fifth (France), who otherwise compete in the league path


Since Atletico Madrid have already qualified via the league, the 3rd placed team in Ligue 1, Lyon confirm their place in the CL groups stages


  • An association may have a maximum of five teams in the group stage


Remains to be seen depending on the outcome of the Champions league final




The remaining six spots would be contested in qualifying rounds :


  • 4 Group places via Champions route : This route consists of the champions of the associations ranked 11th and below, and now includes a preliminary round as well as three qualifying rounds and a play-off round:



  • 2 Group places via League route : This route consists of the third-placed teams of the associations ranked fifth(already qualified) and sixth(Russia), and the runners-up of the associations ranked seventh to 15th






Teams that have already qualified for next season's Champions league :

-Real Madrid                        
-Atletico Madrid                    
-Bayern Munich
-Barcelona
-Juventus
-Paris Saint-Germain
-Man City
-Lokomotiv Moscow
-Borussia Dortmund
-FC Porto
-Man United
-Shakthar Donetsk
-Napoli
-Spurs
-Roma
-Liverpool
-Lyon
-Schalke
-AS Monaco
-Viktoria Plzen
-CSKA Moscow
-Valencia
-Galatasaray
-Club Brugge
-Internazionale
-Hoffenheim





A rough estimate of CL pots next season assuming Benfica and Basel qualify for the group stages(And Madrid wins CL) :

Pot 1: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus, PSG, Man City, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Porto

Pot 2 : Dortmund, Man United, Atletico Madrid, Shakthar Donetsk, Benfica*, Napoli, Basel*, Spurs

Pot 3 : Roma, Liverpool, Schalke, Lyon, Valencia, CSKA Moscow, TBD, TBD

Pot 4 : Club Brugge, Galatasaray, Internazionale, Hoffenheim, Plzen, TBD, TBD

*just assumptions

Discuss.


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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon May 21, 2018 9:43 am

Too soon for this thread to be created, I think.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 9:46 am

Quiet.

Dont @me with 'too soon' 'unnecessary' etc
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by El Gunner on Mon May 21, 2018 10:33 am

Give Arsenal a knockout match with one of these scrub teams from a lesser EU nation. :coffee:

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by rincon on Mon May 21, 2018 10:39 am

@El Gunner wrote:Give Arsenal a knockout match with one of these scrub teams from a lesser EU nation. :coffee:


That's called EL hmm
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Harmonica on Mon May 21, 2018 11:50 am

All new format, same corruption. Yawn.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by zigra on Mon May 21, 2018 11:53 am

@Harmonica wrote:All new format, same corruption. Yawn.


Don't give up just yet. Maybe this time Messi will turn up against Roma and Barca can finally make a semi final once again.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by farfan on Mon May 21, 2018 1:09 pm

@Harmonica wrote:All new format, same corruption. Yawn.


Can't wait until " big game flop " Griezmann gets blamed for letting Messi down.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Firenze on Mon May 21, 2018 1:17 pm

Nice write-up.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon May 21, 2018 1:19 pm

Don't understand the difference tbh, looks the same to me.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 1:21 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Don't understand the difference tbh, looks the same to me.


Pot 3 looks a lot stronger IMO

Group stages will be more interesting

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon May 21, 2018 1:24 pm

Meh it's such an insignificant difference it doesn't even need to be mentioned imo.

Too much hype over nothing. :facepalm:


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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 1:27 pm

Ah yes, i forgot i'm speaking to the cynical Mole who would just about play down everything Proud
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon May 21, 2018 1:29 pm

Football makes me a man i'm not proud of tbh, i'm nothing but positive in other walks of life imo hmm


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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 1:32 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Football makes me a man i'm not proud of tbh, i'm nothing but positive in other walks of life imo hmm



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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon May 21, 2018 1:34 pm

I'm looking forward to the WC tbh, England or no England.

It will be a nice change of pace from every top team being stacked to the brim.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Robespierre on Mon May 21, 2018 2:37 pm

Proud

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by El Gunner on Mon May 21, 2018 5:33 pm

@Firenze wrote:Nice write-up.

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of course you're gonna get something more or less like that.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 5:38 pm

I really dont know why he would want such a weak group. Ideally you'd want 1 or 2 tough teams to prepare you well enough for the knockouts.

Whats the point in gloating about beating scrubs in the groups and then get dumped out by Sevilla ?
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon May 21, 2018 6:46 pm

Maybe I'm missing something here, but don't you guys think there's something seriously flawed about the way they categorize teams into pots?

For instance, a CL finalist shouldn't be put in top 2, 3 or 4 regardless of their position in the league. In that regard, I find it ridiculous that a team with Liverpool's quality and devastating attack would be put in pot 3 if they didn't win the CL. Same goes for Madrid, if we don't win the CL, we won't be placed in pot 1.

It's a little strange to me, but maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Kaladin on Mon May 21, 2018 6:48 pm

Inter will be in pot 2 due to historical coefficient

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 6:57 pm

The only change they could make is take the aggregate coefficient of European performances of clubs over the last 3 years rather than 5 years which is the current system.

And maybe reduce co-efficient points for teams participating in EL. I mean, Sevilla are 6th in the co-efficient ranking for making 1 CL QF in like forever. But i guess it pretty unlikely and they want to reward the smaller clubs i suppose who'd otherwise be hoping to get better draws in the CL as a result of their improved co-efficient.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Mon May 21, 2018 6:59 pm

@Kaladin wrote:Inter will be in pot 2 due to historical coefficient


There is no historical co-efficient rule.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by S on Sat May 26, 2018 11:53 pm

Liverpool almost likely be in Pot 3 next season, now that they lost the CL final. Hopefully they get a harder group this time :coffee:
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2018/19 discussion

Post by Robespierre on Sun May 27, 2018 12:48 am

@Kaladin wrote:Inter will be in pot 2 due to historical coefficient


No we are 4th easily.
Our ranking is just awful. No cups + early eliminations in these years
and there is no historical coefficent rule
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