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Post by Twoism Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:07 am

Our English core was a failure. They were not good enough and unlike Spurs/ City/ MU whose English players are absolute core/ starters, ours were mostly bench. A bit of mismanagement but overtime it’s shown player quality and you cant get away with it. It’s no Tony Adams, Ray Parlour, David Seaman, Ian Wright. Can Chambers and Holding turn around ? probably but they need to crack into our starters 1st before thinking of NT. And tbh some of our legends hardly played for NT even the legendary back four.

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Post by Jay29 Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:22 pm

Hopefully this time our homegrown players will benefit from working with different coaches and with a different squad mentality.

Granted, I don't rate our current crop that highly. I've cooled on Nelson a lot since he didn't show a lot in those end of season games when he was playing his preferred position and Willock looks plain average as an attacking midfielder. Nketiah looks electric at youth level but the competition in attack is too strong for him at the moment (going up against a world class forward in Aubameyang and another great attacker in Lacazette). He needs a loan somewhere, otherwise he's only opportunities are going to come on the flanks.

The age group under them have a few really promising players, but it's too early to assess. Smith-Rowe stands out the most for basically being a mini De Bruyne but again, it's a very dense part of the squad he's looking to break into. Xavier Amaechi looked brilliant in the FA Youth Cup and u17 Euros and I think he'll get a chance sooner than the others, just for being an explosive left footed winger. Bukayo Saka is the same (left footed, rapid) but not as skilful. Then you've got Tyreece John-Jules, Trae Coyle, Vontae Daley-Campbell and Flo Balogun as well who will be mainstays in the u23s for a while.

So we have a few promising English lads coming up, though I think we'll be lucky to see even one make himself an establish first team player.

As for Chambers and Holding, this a big season for them. Both have signed new contracts recently so will be looking to prove that was the right decision, while Koscielny's injury and Mustafi's badness means there's a spot up for grabs next to Sokratis for the first half of the season. The pressure is mostly on Chambers imo since he's had his loan already. If he doesn't establish himself now he won't have any chances left. Holding at least can go on loan if he's still struggling for minutes, and Mavropanos is new.

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Post by Jay29 Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:40 pm

Guendouzi literally signing:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlDqn_aFe2i/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=jpdtr8h0ke5x

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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:05 am



Takes the number 29.

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Post by El Gunner Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:39 pm

Which position does he play?
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:20 pm

DM/CM by the sounds of things.

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Post by Sina Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:12 pm

Sina wrote:Jadon Sancho would be my pick
Sancho2019 :coffee:

Forgot Ryan Sessegnon
him too
if these two have decent seasons there is going to be a bidding war next summer
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:50 pm

Are you going to sign another CB in addition to Sokratis ?
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Post by Sina Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:55 pm

we have to
but doesn't seem to be the case as of now,No links
unless there is good offer for Mustafi

Sokratis-Mustafi gonna be disastrous pairing imo
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:01 pm

Why do you hate Sokratis so much? Latest stats I saw looked good. hmm

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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:08 pm

You don’t need stats either, one game and you’ll see he’s quality and in his prime.
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Post by Sina Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:10 pm

Cant find it
but IIRC there was leaked photo of mark Hughes  pre match Notes in 2009(4-2 vs city) in which he had specifically ordered city players to drag Vermaelen out of position

Now imagine vermaelen x2 Mad
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 pm

Sina wrote:Cant find it
but IIRC there was leaked photo of mark Hughes  pre match Notes in 2009(4-2 vs city) in which he had specifically ordered city players to drag Vermaelen out of position

Now imagine vermaelen x2 Mad


Except Sokratis is much better.
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Post by Sina Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:06 pm

better in physical confrontations but worse on the ball
but similar tendencies, aggressive defending passion merchant who gets exposed vs intelligent movement and dragged out of position
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:22 pm

That’s a very lazy take on the two players. It would be the same as saying that Vermaelen and Koscielny are the same players because both are agressive, and we know well that that isn’t the truth.

Sokratis is closer to Koscielny in his prime, very aggressive (not dumb aggressive like Vermaelen and Mustafi), great tackler, tough, can save you goals on his own.

He can handle himself well enough, as for how we defend as a unit, that depends on the work Unai Emery does with the boys. Even a Bonucci can look clueless when he’s out of the Allegri system so that’s the most important part.

With that said, I too hoped we would add another CB to partner him but Emery seems to trust Mustafi/Chambers to step up, we’ll see if that works.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:18 pm

El Gunner wrote:Yo, what went wrong with Holding?? Remember how Arsenal Twitter were praising him to be the next Tony Adams or something at the end of the 16/17 season?


I would like to know too. He looked so promising and mature the first couple of times I saw him play.

Sina wrote:Jadon Sancho would be my pick
Sancho2019 :coffee:

Good call. Sancho is going to be one hell of a player.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:27 pm

With Sina tbh, all aggressive defenders are frauds.

MELTlintat OUT imo.
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Post by Jay29 Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:07 pm

Emery on transfers:

-- We're not after N'Zonzi
-- He's very happy with the business that's been done
-- We'll only sign one more player if a "big possibility" appears
-- Mentioned that we had a lot of young players and a few could leave on loan
-- Has told the transfer team that he wants Ramsey to stay

https://www.arsenal.com/news/unai-emery-press-conference-the-full-transcript

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Post by Sina Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:47 am

PSG being linked with Boateng/Bonucci
If they actually sign High profile CB
Maybe Emery can Lure Kimpembe
Need Kos replacement and can be financed by selling Mustafi

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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:24 am

Sina wrote:PSG being linked with Boateng/Bonucci
If they actually sign High profile CB
Maybe Emery can Lure Kimpembe
Need Kos replacement and can be financed by selling Mustafi



Kimpembe would be perfect for us, young left sided CB. Uff.

Zero chance of PSG letting him leave though.

We have a strange case of having too many of our experienced CB's preferring to play RCB and only one LCB (Koscielny), who is out for a long time and shouldn't be counted on. That's my worry with Sokratis, he will be shoehorned as a LCB when he prefers to play as the right sided CB.
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Post by Jay29 Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:59 pm

Jeremy Wilson in the Telegraph: Arsenal are open to selling David Ospina, Danny Welbeck, Lucas Perez, Carl Jenkinson, Joel Campbell and Chuba Akpom.

Selling both Welbz and Lucas would leave us light in attack, though it would be a big chance for Eddie, The Jeff and Nelson to step-up and become regulars.

Ospina, Jenkinson, Campbell and Akpom should all leave. It's not going to work out for any of them.


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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:33 pm

According to Chris Wheatley of Goal.com:

Emery wants two more signings for the squad, with a fast, direct winger being his priority.

However, we have to sell a few players first.

The club is apparently willing to listen to offers for Cech, Ospina, Monreal, Jenkinson, Mustafi, Lucas and Welbeck.

If Monreal goes, a new left back will be signed.

Cech has been linked with a return to Chelsea, Ospina is being linked with Besiktas. If both end up going, Martinez or Macey could be made number two.

I don't think all of those players will leave, but the end of our window might not be as quiet as first thought.

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Post by El Gunner Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:38 pm

Interesting, hoping we keep Cech and let Ospina go. Always loved Cech's class and professionalism since he joined.
Keep Monreal, the left back market is dire.
Sell all of the rest for all I care, wouldn't mind Lucas staying though for back up purposes.
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:46 pm

As far as Monreal and Welbeck go, their contracts run out soon (Welbeck's this summer, Monreal's either this summer or next) and they don't have a lot of renewal potential. Monreal is 32 and might not be suited to Emery's high-intensity game, while Welbeck just hasn't produced the quality that suggest he can be anything more than a squad player.

If Real Socieded (the most recently linked to Monreal) offer the £20m that's been reported, then we should definitely take that and buy a young left back from somewhere. Monreal is decent, but not so good that we should be turning down good money for him.

If Welbeck and Lucas end up staying, I don't think that's a bad result. They can be useful backup players. However, if selling them means freeing up funds and room for a winger, I'm all for it. That'd be sensible business.

I wouldn't mind Mustafi going either, however that leaves us reliant on three young centre backs until Koscielny is fit again so it's a bit risky. Then again, playing Mustafi every game is just as risky, so screw it. Sell to whoever is dumb enough to buy him.


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Post by Sina Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:34 pm

Kimpembe and Coman
WATTBA

I would keep Welbz and sell Lucas Perez
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:38 pm

Seeing this horrendous rumour about us signing Andre Gomes. Rather re-sign Denilson if he is still alive.


I do hope Emery gets what he wants though. Sell all those scrubs and buy 2 fresh players we need. Agreed about a quick and direct winger. Left back would be nice too
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