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Post by McLewis on Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:42 pm

Official Arrivals:

Ante Coric from Dinamo Zagreb (supposedly the next Luca Modric) for 8m

Ivan Marcano from Porto (hopefully the Spanish Kolarov) on a free.

Bryan Cristante from Atalanta for 5m initial loan with 25m obligation to buy.

Justin Kluivert from Ajax for 17.5m. He's flown in. Contract signing hasn't happened yet though.

Antonio Mirante from Bologna on a free. We get 5m for sending Lukasz Skorupski the other way.

Javier Pastore from PSG for 24m.

Davide Santon from Inter as part of Nainggolan deal.

Nicolo Zaniolo from Inter as part of Nainggolan deal. 

Currently Negotiating:

Hakim Ziyech from Ajax for approximately 30m.

Bruno Fernandes - Interest has cooled for now as he focuses on Portugal at the WC.

Rumored Arrivals:

Cristiano Piccini from Sporting CP for 15m - Possible with Peres expected to leave and Karsdorp working back into fitness. Inter are also interested and had an 8m bid rejected. His release clause is 45m.

Domenico Berardi - Entourage has met with Monchi to discuss a potential move.

Lukas Klostermann - Leipzig value him at 10m. Is seen as a much younger version of Kolarov: Physically imposing, tactically astute with good crossing ability.

Alex Meret - The top choice to replace Alisson. Napoli also want him. 35m is the price.

Alphonse Areola - The 2nd choice to replace Alisson. Napoli also want him.

Official Departures:

Bogdan Lobont - Retired

Nainggolan - Joins Inter for 24m plus Santon and Zaniolo, totaling 38m.

Skorupski - Joins Bologna for 5m with Antonio Mirante coming to us on a free.

Bruno Peres - Returning to Torino for 1m loan + 7m obligation to buy next season.

Rumored Departures:

Alisson - Price is 80m and Personal terms agreed with Madrid, however they are unwilling to meet the price tag and will not go above 70.

Strootman - Release clause of 32m. Marseille are taking another look at him.

Defrel - Will likely not be used in Cristante deal, but Atalanta are still interested along with Fiorentina.

Pellegrini - Wanted by Liverpool and Juventus. Release clause is 25m.

Perotti - Wanted by Sevilla. May happen given Monchi's connections with them and Perotti's previous stint.

Castan - Cagliari are interested in signing him.

El Shaarawy - Guangzhou Evergrande and Hebei Fortune are interested in him. Transfermarkt has his value at 18m. Heibei are willing to shell out as much as 30.

Juan Jesus - Marseille, Torino and Fiorentina are interested. The club have set the price at 12m.

Florenzi - Expected to sign a new deal worth 3m a year in the next few days. Chelsea still have him on their radar in case it falls through.

Sadiq - New Rangers boss Steven Gerrard is reportedly interested in him so a loan deal could happen though NAC Breda (where he spent last season on loan) have an option to sign him permanently for 4m. Either way, his future is away from Roma.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:46 pm

Fan of the title Laughing

How many of the rumoured departures do you think you will keep?

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Re: Roma re-constructing another overachieving team

Post by McLewis on Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:50 pm

I added a couple more, but of all of them, I think we're most likely to keep Alisson or Skorupski, but I highly doubt we lose or keep both. One is unlikely to go unless our price is met and the other doesn't want to be no.2 again for another season nor should he. He's a perfectly capable keeper who should be starting at other clubs.

We'll probably hang onto Strootman given the mutual loyalty so it would take a massive offer to turn our heads on him. Would have to be more than what we paid for him. If he does go, Pellegrini definitely stays.

Everyone else, it's pretty much a possibility if the right offers come in.


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Post by Doc on Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:53 pm

Lewis, what exactly is Roma's issue with FFP? Could google it but I feel you'll be more intimate with the issue.

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Re: Roma re-constructing another overachieving team

Post by McLewis on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:00 am

Still residual impact from our financial problems pre-American ownership and even during the first couple of years, we were finishing FYs at a loss, which did us no favors with FFP. Next season is expected to be the last season (hopefully) for it, but I'm not holding my breath. We need more of these new signings from last season and from whoever we bring in this season to come good so we can make another deep CL run.

The CL money as well as the Qatar Airways (official front sponsor) and Hyundai (rumored sponsor on the back of our kits) money should help offset that as well. Building the stadium will really set us on our way though, but at this point, I'll win the lottery before it gets built....and I never play the lottery.

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Post by Luca on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:06 am

Strootman and Pellegrini have 45M and 25M release clauses respectively. I think the latter is more likely to move than the former, especially with the Cristante arrival only limiting his appearances further.

Meret is a fantastic goalkeeping prospect, I would be jealous if Roma were to sign him. It only makes sense with an Alisson exit though (or else he is wasted as a #2)

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Post by McLewis on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:12 am

Yup, and the thing is I don't think Strootman is quite as valuable as his release clause says he is right now. Amazing guy, was great to see him fully fit for a season, and I love him to pieces, but if someone triggers that clause, they're not buying the Strootman we got from PSV. That's not his fault. Garcia used him in a much more dynamic way than EDF has and its limited his influence offensively while exposing his limitations defensively.

As for Pellegrini, yeah he could go at virtually any time. Like Stroots, he just didn't appear to be the same player he was for his previous club, despite having the same coach. Needs a breakout season for us to raise that release clause. Otherwise, he's a future Juve player at some point.

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Post by Luca on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:37 am

Actually, Strootman's release clause has dropped to 32M as of June

https://www.calciomercato.com/news/roma-la-verita-sulla-clausola-di-strootman-ecco-i-dettagli-36741

He's 28, not a great injury record but at 32M that's very sensible in today's market. I really thought Juve was going to sign him last summer @45M but we ended up with Matuidi instead. I don't think we'll be back in for a midfielder of his type after the Can signing (whew?)
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Post by McLewis on Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:52 am

Hmm interesting. Well that certainly puts him on the list of possible departures then. That's if we're serious about changing up the midfield though. I don't believe that's an area Monchi will put much focus on. It's wingers and full-backs that we need atm.

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Post by McLewis on Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:19 am

Updated some stuff in my OP.

Cristante has flown in for the medical and contract signing. Current reporting from Sky Italia says deal is 30m, including bonuses plus Marco Tumminello going in the other direction, with a buyback clause inserted.

This, along with the arrival of Ante Coric, is probably going to mean one of Strootman or Nainggolan will almost certainly leave to appease FFP and make room in the squad.

Also - Bruno Peres to Torino looks to be done. 1m loan with 7m obligation to buy.

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Post by McLewis on Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am

Can't help, but think 30m is too much, but he's been quite good for Atalanta so I just hope we've signed that player and not an imposter. This may even help Pellegrini break out, especially if Stroots or Ninja end up leaving.

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Post by rincon on Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:49 pm

Roma's GOAT social media skills



5m loan + 15m obligation to buy next summer + 10m performance related bonuses
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Re: Roma re-constructing another overachieving team

Post by Lucifer on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:04 pm

That photoshop level ffs :bow: :bow:

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:10 pm

@Lucifer wrote:That photoshop level ffs :bow: :bow:
Laughing

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Re: Roma re-constructing another overachieving team

Post by McLewis on Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:12 pm

Giving hope to all of us shitty photoshoppers Proud

da real MVP is behind that social media account.

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Post by McLewis on Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:58 am

Balza on point as always:


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Post by McLewis on Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:38 am

Updates: Kluivert offer is now up to 18m. Waiting on Ajax. I expect they'll reject it again and hold out for at least 20.

We're back in Berardi, whose entourage was spotted at Trigoria for a meeting with Monchi. 25m is the price tag. He could be seen as an alternative to Kluivert and/or Ziyech.

Inter have joined us in pursuing Cristiano Piccini.

El Shaarawy is wanted in China by Guangzhou and Heibei.

Sources: CdS, GdS, PageRomaniste

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Post by iftikhar on Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:05 pm

@McLewis

Roma seem to be buying players with decent price-tag but who aren't really proven. Is it that the inflationary effect has made 20m a benchmark even for promising players or is it that the players you have mentioned (rumored/signed) are actually quite good.
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Post by McLewis on Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:02 am

A bit of both honestly. Inflation's part of the game now, the activity of the biggest clubs buying the biggest players for obscene amounts of money has certainly had a knock-on effect for everyone else, as expected. That said, the players we're signing are in line with the project's core objective since the Americans bought us, which is to sign young stars and build a competitive team around them.

It was once said that "we're signing the best players in the world, they're just younger."Pjanic and Lamela fit that mold as did Strootman and Manolas after them. It continues with Alisson, Under, Schick, Coric and Cristante. These are players expected to be future world beaters. They may not get to the level of Dembele, Mbappe, Asensio, Sane, etc, but they're likely to be in those general discussions, which enhances the Roma brand and draws more youngsters, continuing the cycle.

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Post by Warrior on Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:31 am

@rincon wrote:Roma's GOAT social media skills



5m loan + 15m obligation to buy next summer + 10m performance related bonuses




Reminds me of when you signed for Torino last summer Proud

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Post by rincon on Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:34 am

One of my best career moves Proud
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Post by McLewis on Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:33 am

Updates:

- Inter will have to pay 40m for Nainggolan.
- Chelsea have joined Juve and Inter in race for Florenzi. Negotiations are not going well. He wants 4m/year. Club says no.
- Marseille are interested in Juan Jesus. We want 12m for him.

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Post by McLewis on Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:27 pm



Still not sure about this kid, but here we go.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:30 pm

Should try to sign Bruno Fernandes as Nainggolan’s replacement, that would be incredible business.
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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:32 pm

@rincon wrote:Roma's GOAT social media skills



5m loan + 15m obligation to buy next summer + 10m performance related bonuses


Lmao just seen that.

Meanwhile Arsenal spend a month to announce a player because of these photos and marketing schemes.
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