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Re: Africa watch

Post by Freeza on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:16 am

@GRude wrote:I only count the black teams as African tbh.


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Re: Africa watch

Post by Doc on Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:17 am

@GRude wrote:I only count the black teams as African tbh.

I understand, ignoring geographical location and using skin complexion as one's reason to consider a country "African" is always sensible.

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Re: Africa watch

Post by CBarca on Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:22 am

@Luca wrote:A low point?

When exactly were African nations known to be powerhouses in the World Cup?

2014:
Cameroon 0 points
Ivory Coast 3 points (3rd in group)
Nigeria 4 points (2nd in group)
Ghana 1 point
Algeria 4 points (2nd in group)

Are we that far off?

Seems like these nations are being overrated heavily because they have a couple easily recognizable players


People are still biased by Ghana 2010 and some decent Ivory Coast teams in World Cups past

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Re: Africa watch

Post by El Gunner on Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:43 am

Please enlighten yourselves.

However, the football projects established in Africa are often used for political and economic purposes that only harm Africa’s future rather than support domestic development, both at grassroots and national level. Hence while individual African talents continue to emerge and flourish in Europe, the game itself in Africa seems to have declined and reversed back to its beginnings. Of course, whether we should subscribe to this myth of ‘progress’ is entirely up to individuals, but the evidence of institutionalized corruption in Africa as well as the increase exploitation of players by European sides, or as some say the new form slavery, is putting the future of the game into jeopardy.

The European clubs that cream off the best African talent are not there to develop the infrastructure or grassroots of the game; for them it’s all about business and trying their best to secure talented players at an early age in the hope of striking it rich in the future. Great chance for players to develop and establish themselves in Europe, no doubt, but little does it help to shape the legacy of football development within Africa.

Some of the individual-ran football projects around the world targeting to help develop an African football community are also not, unfortunately, always operating to the best interest of African football per se, as often their sole purpose is to market their project as an opportunity to earn a prestigious football or academic scholarship to pursue a career in international football.

The Barcelona Football Festival and Qatar’s ASPIRE Football Dreams are some of the example projects that, from the outset, is designed to offer children from many developing countries in Africa the opportunity to enter professional football, but what it really offers is the chance to attract scouts from Europe to snatch up talented individuals away from Africa.

Despite that South Africa has in recent years managed to earn a solid reputation for its youth football development, with Cape Town’s African Soccer Development School a prime example and Rivaldo Coetzee one of their most prominent graduates today, the shifting of the European market and economic system means that the best players from Africa, if not properly rewarded, will be tempted to move abroad, which, in the long run, only benefits the European sides, and not Africa.

What makes matters worse is that developing the game in Africa is also not short of controversies related to politics and corruption. Sepp Blatter of FIFA, for instance, has been accused of using football development projects to befriend African football administrators for political intentions.

Read more at http://www.worldsoccer.com/blogs/african-football-the-talent-is-there-bur-progress-remains-slow-360262#Bd7LHcYIE7Qttd8V.99
http://www.worldsoccer.com/blogs/african-football-the-talent-is-there-bur-progress-remains-slow-360262 --- there's more regarding politics and corruption in the article, so if you want to know more click and read.

And this as well, it doesn't provide a lot of detail tbh, but it points out some of the other issues I already raised
http://www.dw.com/en/why-african-football-continues-to-go-nowhere/a-37380679

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Re: Africa watch

Post by farfan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:05 am

@CBarca wrote:
@Luca wrote:A low point?

When exactly were African nations known to be powerhouses in the World Cup?

2014:
Cameroon 0 points
Ivory Coast 3 points (3rd in group)
Nigeria 4 points (2nd in group)
Ghana 1 point
Algeria 4 points (2nd in group)

Are we that far off?

Seems like these nations are being overrated heavily because they have a couple easily recognizable players


People are still biased by Ghana 2010 and some decent Ivory Coast teams in World Cups past


What decent Ivory coast teams? they never made it past the group stage.

Africa's historical world cup performances were Morocco 1986, Cameroun 1990, Senegal 2002, and Ghana 2010.
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Re: Africa watch

Post by rincon on Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:23 am

Nigeria 98 too. Knocking out Spain and winning the group.
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Re: Africa watch

Post by farfan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:28 am

@rincon wrote:Nigeria 98 too. Knocking out Spain and winning the group.


They got trashed in the second round tho.

Nigeria 94 might be a better choice, they almost beat Italy.
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Re: Africa watch

Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:35 am

They had Jay Jay Okocha so a GOAT team by definition

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Freeza on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:08 pm

@rincon wrote:Nigeria 98 too. Knocking out Spain and winning the group.


I only have fond memories of that team

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Nishankly on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:13 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@rincon wrote:Nigeria 98 too. Knocking out Spain and winning the group.


I only have fond memories of that team


Agreed, Was at a time when I mastered speaking basic sentences WATTBA


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Re: Africa watch

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:14 pm

@Nishankly wrote:
@Freeza wrote:
@rincon wrote:Nigeria 98 too. Knocking out Spain and winning the group.


I only have fond memories of that team


Agreed, Was at a time when I was mastered speaking basic sentences WATTBA


This sentence implies you still haven't imo.

WATTBA.

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Nishankly on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:15 pm

Reported
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Re: Africa watch

Post by S on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:15 pm

Senegal 2002 was my very first time watching an African team compete and they beat reigning champs France. What a game that was
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Re: Africa watch

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:18 pm

@S wrote:Senegal 2002 was my very first time watching an African team compete and they beat reigning champs France. What a game that was


You watched two African teams in one game hmm

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Re: Africa watch

Post by S on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:20 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@S wrote:Senegal 2002 was my very first time watching an African team compete and they beat reigning champs France. What a game that was


You watched two African teams in one game hmm

@Sportsczy


Watched Jamaica destroy Denmark on a rainy night in Japan too (:

Sol Campbell, ufff
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Re: Africa watch

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:23 pm

:bow:

Campbell would have been disgraced by Sterling's performances for the Reggae Boyz tbh.

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Re: Africa watch

Post by farfan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:35 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote::bow:

Campbell would have been disgraced by Sterling's performances for the Reggae Boyz tbh.


African diaspora > Caribbean diaspora

Main reason why France has an edge over England imo. :coffee:
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Re: Africa watch

Post by Freeza on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:37 pm

@S wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@S wrote:Senegal 2002 was my very first time watching an African team compete and they beat reigning champs France. What a game that was


You watched two African teams in one game hmm

@Sportsczy


Watched Jamaica destroy Denmark on a rainy night in Japan too (:

Sol Campbell, ufff


This never happened hmm

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Re: Africa watch

Post by S on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:49 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@S wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

You watched two African teams in one game hmm

@Sportsczy


Watched Jamaica destroy Denmark on a rainy night in Japan too (:

Sol Campbell, ufff


This never happened hmm


They beat you handily bro. Those fcking immigrants !

Much to Unique's dissatisfaction
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Re: Africa watch

Post by Unique on Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:00 pm

@S wrote:
@Freeza wrote:
@S wrote:


Watched Jamaica destroy Denmark on a rainy night in Japan too (:

Sol Campbell, ufff


This never happened hmm


They beat you handily bro. Those fcking immigrants !

Much to Unique's dissatisfaction
dont you have some african teams to abuse today. :coffee:

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Doc on Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:01 pm

@farfan wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote::bow:

Campbell would have been disgraced by Sterling's performances for the Reggae Boyz tbh.


African diaspora > Caribbean diaspora

Main reason why France has an edge over England imo. :coffee:

Why don't you hush

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Doc on Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:04 pm

@Freeza
England beat Denmark 3-0 in 2002 with Sol Campbell, a man of Jamaican descent, was a key member.

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:06 pm

Denmark rofl

Terrible team tbh.

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:13 pm

With Egypt, Morocco and Tunisia, Arab Africa is heavily represented at this World Cup and has been an utter, bitter disappointment.
Hope next time around there's more Black African teams again.

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Re: Africa watch

Post by LeBéninois on Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:48 pm

" Black africans teams " have also dissapointed a lot in the past so they would not have been able to do better .

And If Egypt, Morocco and Tunisia are at the WC it's because they beat " Black africans teams" in the qualif stage . They deserve to be there .

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Re: Africa watch

Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:49 pm

I know. Just wanted to rile farfan up.

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