There is no debate anymore

It should be noted that while Messi might play in a bad team managed by a fraud it's ALL his fault.
Argentina have a great generation and could appoint great coaches but it's MESSI who doesn't allow it. HE installs the trashy managers. HE blocks the great players. It's not about what's best for Argentina, it's not even about what's best for him. It's just about who he likes. Cronyism.

He's his teams best player but he destroys them.
Kick him out after the WC. Bring in a top coach who doesn't have to bow to Messi. That generation should compete for titles, not go out in the group stage.

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

@farfan wrote:

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Irony here is Portugal are probably the most well drilled team in the tournament.

So well drilled that they got drilled by freaking Morocco for 90 minutes.

All Portugal's goals so far have come from Ronaldo heroics ffs.

They were never in any danger. Yes Ronaldo scores the goals but they incredibly well organised and only really missing the likes of Moutinho and Silva picking up their game to be a complete side.

There isn't a weakness in that team, i'm getting annoyed with people downplaying their team to hype up Ronaldo. Ronaldo is doing good enough on his own without the need for that bullshit.

But i don't really have the energy to go any further than that.

Wrong.

You don't have the information to back up your hipster opinions.

RG has finally become the Admin we all needed. I am privilege to be in a forum that is ran by this great man. Thank you for this thread.

It was never a doubt in my mind Brother Zigra and brother RG. We have naysayers like Mole and Hans who are having difficulties in dealing with this new reality, trying to call it "boring" and talking about the old days. We live in the now and this isn't boring. As futbol once wrote, Messi needed GOAT midfielders like Iniesta and Xavi to really make him shine. When things aren't to his liking, he sulks and walks around the pitch.

If anything i'd argue calling Messi a failure when his team went to the final in the last WC and Ronaldo's record before this WC was 3 goals in 3 whole WCs not games is the definition of hipster.

But hey what do i know.

Actually i have loads of information, i just can't be arsed to really argue something which was boring before Ronaldo won his first CL with Madrid matter about when he's got *bleep* 4.

Inbe4 Argentina still progress to the knockouts and Messi plays well there.

Always write the same. Well yeah, sure. Know why? Because Messi keeps failing and Ronaldo keeps winning. You want us to invent some fake news about Messis heroic performance in the world cup or the CL?

Some of you went here to remember this.

But many years ago, we made a section dedicated to dick measuring contests( like Messi vs Ronaldo) because the entire forum was tired of debating the same shit over and over again.

Then you wonder why i respond like i do It was boring then so it's certainly *bleep* boring now.

why ronaldo fanboi always have the chances to gloat and troll messi?

because kommander make it possible.

btw, rg ,my thumb up still wont count, ya know im always with u, pls fix.

@zigra wrote:It should be noted that while Messi might play in a bad team managed by a fraud it's ALL his fault.
Argentina have a great generation and could appoint great coaches but it's MESSI who doesn't allow it. HE installs the trashy managers. HE blocks the great players. It's not about what's best for Argentina, it's not even about what's best for him. It's just about who he likes. Cronyism.

He's his teams best player but he destroys them.
Kick him out after the WC. Bring in a top coach who doesn't have to bow to Messi. That generation should compete for titles, not go out in the group stage.

Where is the evidence of this?

@guest7 wrote:

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Some of you went here to remember this.

But many years ago, we made a section dedicated to dick measuring contests( like Messi vs Ronaldo) because the entire forum was tired of debating the same shit over and over again.

Then you wonder why i respond like i do It was boring then so it's certainly *bleep* boring now.

Except back then there was a actual contest, but now there is none.

This is not a dick measuring contest, nor a debate. This is the answer. We finally have it.

You might not accept it but us with more neutral sense than you do.

Aye it was a contest when Messi won 4 Balon Do'rs in a row

As i said it was boring then so it's certainly going to be boring now, i wouldn't respond like this if we haven't been doing this for seven *bleep* years and it stopped being anything but boring about 6 months in.

Not my fault you are a child who can't comprehend it because your brain is so tiny.

Nah i just don't feel i need to be polite to you tbh.

Show some intelligence and you might earn your place.

why the personal attack.

u knows urself are losing it when u go that way.

Messi wasn't at fault today,he can't be blamed for shit midfield+defence+goalkeeper+clueless manager. The fault with him lies in the Island game. He shouldn't have taken that PK, Mascherano should have.

@terrance511 wrote:why the personal attack.

u knows urself are losing it when u go that way.

Tired of pretending you jabronies deserve my respect tbh.

As much as a hipster as Mole is, he is correct (to me) that Portugal is better drilled (coached) than Argentina. Not that it helped against Morocco who really were the better side nor was it always the case. Actually, this is a very recent thing but better coached nonetheless.

I mean based on today's evidence i doubt there's a team in the WC who worse drilled than Argentina

Saudi Arabia maybe lol.

I’m only here to show my undying support for my brother @mole

Put some respect on his name or get out

Believe that

Messi forever

Portugal just won the Euro in spite of Ronaldo and now they have a Ronaldo in form. OUT

lol Mole has lost it. Always fun to see the Barca fan come out in full force.

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

@terrance511 wrote:why the personal attack.

u knows urself are losing it when u go that way.

Tired of pretending you jabronies deserve my respect tbh.

what did i do now.

im only a simple man who like to give a good post a thumb up,

@guest7 wrote:

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Nah i just don't feel i need to be polite to you tbh.

Show some intelligence and you might earn your place.

So that justifies needless comments? Nah man, you're trippin. You're butthurt asf IMO.

People should learn to ignore people they don't like here. None needs to be perfect poster for YOU, it's the mods job to decide who's perfect or not.

Same goes to you Hans. You've been reported BTW, for literally insulting another member of the community.

@guest7 wrote:

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Nah i just don't feel i need to be polite to you tbh.

Show some intelligence and you might earn your place.

So that justifies needless comments? Nah man, you're trippin. You're butthurt asf IMO.

People should learn to ignore people they don't like here. None needs to be perfect poster for YOU, it's the mods job to decide who's perfect or not.

Same goes to you Hans. You've been reported BTW, for literally insulting another member of the community.

You've been on my ignore list for months

I just felt like being a dickhead as it's the only way to do with you trolls imo.