WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:13 pm

Looking forward to the day you turn on Lopetegui and start a full on revisionist campaign Laughing

Won't take long, maybe half a year.

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:17 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
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@Mr Nick09 wrote: you are reading the game wrong, both Asensio and Costa are isolated up front. do you see the ball going to them in wide areas?

Spain are playing very poorly, they dont have a coach and it shows.


rofl now it's the teams fault when it suits you Proud
you numpty Laughing

Hierro is not a coach he doesnt know what he is doing, and Spain only worked well in the first game. Spain style requires constant adjustment and instructions and no one is there to provide them.

Not to mention their pressing has gone out of whack.


Yeah and Argentina really knew what they were doing Laughing

You aren't wrong but it's funny you make excuses when it suits you and criticise others for the same reasons your making excuses here.

Try to be consistent then it wouldn't be so easy for you to look so stupid.

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:18 pm

Silva who was supposed to take over from Xaviniesta is looking so passive, what a fraud. bring thiago on please or Iago Aspas

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:19 pm

Silva has been the worst Spanish player in all games hasn't he? Amazing how he keeps his place.

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by zigra on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:22 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Silva has been the worst Spanish player in all games hasn't he? Amazing how he keeps his place.


Well Pique has been the worst. Silva is 2nd.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:24 pm

Shouldn't have removed the giant.

He was causing some aerial problems, and that looked like the only effective venue of attacking for Russia.

Also, Russia's player's are slipping too much. It's like they are extending themselves beyond their natural abilities.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:24 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

rofl now it's the teams fault when it suits you Proud
you numpty Laughing

Hierro is not a coach he doesnt know what he is doing, and Spain only worked well in the first game. Spain style requires constant adjustment and instructions and no one is there to provide them.

Not to mention their pressing has gone out of whack.


Yeah and Argentina really knew what they were doing Laughing

You aren't wrong but it's funny you make excuses when it suits you and criticise others for the same reasons your making excuses here.

Try to be consistent then it wouldn't be so easy for you to look so stupid.
are you actually asking me to hold the same line of comparison for Asensio with Spain vs Messi with Argentina? is this a serious argument we should waste our time on? nope.

I said yesterday that Messi did not have a good world cup, he had a single moment of genius vs Nigeria, and everything else was a wash.

Of course i understand his team was not good enough, that's why they are out, but even by the standards he played at this season with Barca, he was poor. We are talking about a potential GOAT not asensio, i think the standards to rate him should be slightly higher

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:24 pm

@zigra wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Silva has been the worst Spanish player in all games hasn't he? Amazing how he keeps his place.


Well Pique has been the worst. Silva is 2nd.


True. Amazing that Lopetegui left a GOAT CB AND GOAT DM in one at home with Javi Martinez to play the washed up Busquets and Pique who clearly don't give a damn about anything anymore, and wanted to secede from the country

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by RealGunner on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:25 pm

Silva has never performed in a tournament. Another World Cup, another flop performance.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Art Morte on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:26 pm

Spain are incredibly ineffective with their possession. Someone should remind them the objective is to score goals.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by zigra on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:26 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@zigra wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Silva has been the worst Spanish player in all games hasn't he? Amazing how he keeps his place.


Well Pique has been the worst. Silva is 2nd.


True. Amazing that Lopetegui left a GOAT CB AND GOAT DM in one at home with Javi Martinez to play the washed up Busquets and Pique who clearly don't give a damn about anything anymore, and wanted to secede from the country


Ah now that you said it... I was thinking about a player who could replace Pique. Yeah, that's a terrible decision but for some reason Pique keeps starting for club and country despite being a disgrace. It doesn't really make sense but hey.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:27 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Spain are incredibly ineffective with their possession. Someone should remind them the objective is to score goals.


You are wrong.

Spain are very effective at putting the Russian's to sleep.

They will hypnotize them with possession and then kill them with another fluke goal.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:31 pm

Ignashevich with the worst clearance of all time Laughing
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by zigra on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:31 pm

Spain and de Boer would be a match made in heaven.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:32 pm

Nope I'm saying he wasn't put in the position to succeed, just like Asensio isn't today.

Don't care how good you are if you are isolated then you will look like crap, it's stupid to expect any forward to do something in these scenarios.

The fact he's a potential GOAT is completely irrelevant, he either stays up front and never sees the ball or comes deep and has to dribble 40 yards to get close the goal.

You really don't understand football if you don't get this tbh.


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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:35 pm

Russia has two or three good players with a bunch of other's who can't pass or take a ball to save their lives.

Yet, Spain are so afraid of their counter attacks they REFUSE to go into any attacking move with numbers.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:36 pm

“Watching Spain is like being at a baggage carousel where your suitcase never arrives,”
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Guest on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:37 pm

Costa taken off? WTF?

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by zigra on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Did Spain play a different style before they changed managers?
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Robespierre on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:38 pm

@zigra wrote:Spain and de Boer would be a match made in heaven.


I'd call Amnesty International after it

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:40 pm

EVEN THEIR FREAKING THROW IN THEY RETURN IT TO THE DEFENSE.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:41 pm

then maybe we need to close all players appreciation thread and stop talking about how good x or y player.

we have to be able to talk about both at the same time, the team and the player performance. and i refuse to put Asensio's potential impact on a game at the same scale as Messi's.

If you want to reason why argentina lost and havent won the world cup in the messi's era, then you are right you can point to how disfunctional the team is and has been at times. yet, i also watched the game, and i saw a very lacklustre Messi, far from the standards we usually expect from him.

We have seen dysfunctional teams before reaching greatness because they were being lead by a single great player. Was that too much to expect or ask from Messi? maybe.

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:42 pm

Ineista the only one providing some magic to the game.
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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:42 pm

@zigra wrote:Did Spain play a different style before they changed managers?


Yeah. They played some spectacular stuff in earlier games this year tbf.
But I believe they'd have played just as poorly now were Lopetegui still in place.


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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:42 pm

@zigra wrote:Did Spain play a different style before they changed managers?


They've played this way since 2010 lol, only difference is Xavi retired.

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Re: WC 2018 | Round of 16 | Russia Vs Spain

Post by Guest on Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:42 pm

Iniesta legit looks like a grandpa.

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