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Post by zigra on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:14 pm

@Kebab wrote:European teams are well organized and their defense are best. south americans are best in attack. but in the end defense and parked busses wins. like pele said "defense wins cups"


Lol no. The best attacking team is France.
Best team at parking the bus was probably Uruguay. Maybe Sweden can compete.

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Post by RealGunner on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:17 pm

@Art Morte wrote:
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And about Brazil. This generation (starting from 2014) is arguably one of their worst ever.


Last WC they had Fred starting up top and now Jesus, it's like they're producing only street footballers with fancy tricks and no goalscorers.


lmfao forgot about Fred.

It's weird they wouldn't start Firmino who would actually be a lot better in this system. Both out wide or upfront.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:18 pm

I'm gonna say it, as far as big games go this was the best of Hazard's career IMO.
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Post by farfan on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:19 pm

Fellaini getting not love ffs, victimized Neymar for 90 minutes.

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Post by Kaladin on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 pm

It was a fun game, was at the edge of my seat, despite Coutinho’s assist, i think he was ass throughout the game. Neymar to an email extent as well.

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Post by Arquitecto on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 pm

Hazard has gone from overrated to debatably underrated.

Congratulations to Belgium, in their generation at their clear peak. Martinez has found his mark and I cannot imagine what Radja is going through at the moment.

Not surprised Brazil is gone as the Hype was beyond its worth.

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Post by RealGunner on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 pm

@Jay29 wrote:The last team to beat Roberto Martinez in a competitive game was... Sunderland. rofl

Fair play. He's doing a good job with this team despite nobody thinking he can. It's not always straightforward but he's got their attackers firing and that's getting them through.


I said it before that he was a great pick for Belgium despite being controversial. I mean most people don't like him which is fair enough since he looks and acts like an extra in a minions film but when he gets his stuff right, he really gets it right. He has the players who fits the system that worked for him at Everton and Wigan.

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Post by RealGunner on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:21 pm

@Kaladin wrote:It was a fun game, was at the edge of my seat, despite Coutinho’s assist, i think he was ass throughout the game. Neymar to an email extent as well.


That is classic Coutinho.
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Post by RealGunner on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:21 pm

@farfan wrote:Fellaini getting not love ffs, victimized Neymar for 90 minutes.



TANK midfielder. Ruffled non-EPL scrubs.
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Post by Lucifer on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:21 pm

From neutral point of view it's never good when Brazil are knocked out of the tournament. Neymar has lost substantial amount of credibility and claim on the throne of Messi and Ronaldo. What pathetic display by this 26 year old teenager smh.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:22 pm

You know what was really classic Coutinho?

Every single time ( other than the assist Laughing ) he was trying to create space to shoot Laughing

This is my problem with him, he has tunnel vision on at all times and rarely looks to pass.

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Post by Arquitecto on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:24 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:You know what was really classic Coutinho?

Every single time ( other than the assist Laughing ) he was trying to create space to shoot Laughing

This is my problem with him, he has tunnel vision on at all times and rarely looks to pass.



Does this surprise you?

His time in Liverpool was highly overrated.

Tactical nightmare. Same jink and juke to create space on the Apex of the box followed by the shot.

Zero playmaking abilities. Will never progress beyond this level.

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Post by Blue on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:26 pm

Great performance by Hazard, games like these he tends to disappear. When not much attacking went through through the left side. He found many ways to be effective and imposed himself.

Has to be the front runner for the Golden ball at this point along with Harry Kane.

I am giving the MOTM to Tibo though in this game, due to sheer amount of saved he had.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:27 pm

No not all, it's more that everything i know about him came to the fore in the biggest moment imaginable.
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Post by Arquitecto on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:28 pm

@Blue wrote:Great performance by Hazard, games like these he tends to disappear. When not much attacking went through through the left side. He found many ways to be effective and imposed himself.

Has to be the front runner for the Golden ball at this point along with Harry Kane.

I am giving the MOTM to Tibo though in this game, due to sheer amount of saved he had.


Thats because despite Martinez' overall tactical ineptitude, Hazard has been used here better than his whole tenure in Chelsea.

To his strengths.

@Mole: I believe you and verify this criticism 3 years ago from you.

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Post by Doc on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:29 pm

Arquitescu wrote:Hazard has gone from overrated to debatably underrated.

It is legit the first time since in a long time that I can safely say Hazard is having a great tournament. He isn't ghosting through matches, he actually dribbling forward and being a real positive influence to his team. The criticism he got before, to me, was well founded but this tournament, man, he stepped hugely.

Could actually be a Golden Ball candidate.

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Post by Arquitecto on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:30 pm

Genuinely believe Eden deserves the Golden ball despite some colossal performances by others.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:31 pm

Yeah agree with Doc tbh, now i'm starting to believe that the argument he's held back at Chelsea are actually legit arguments tbh.

Kind of want to see that Hazard week in week out now tbh.
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Post by Blue on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:33 pm

Arquitescu wrote:
@Blue wrote:Great performance by Hazard, games like these he tends to disappear. When not much attacking went through through the left side. He found many ways to be effective and imposed himself.

Has to be the front runner for the Golden ball at this point along with Harry Kane.

I am giving the MOTM to Tibo though in this game, due to sheer amount of saved he had.


Thats because despite Martinez' overall tactical ineptitude, Hazard has been used here better than his whole tenure in Chelsea.

To his strengths.

@Mole: I believe you and verify this criticism 3 years ago from you.


agreed, looking forward to seeing him play under Sarri. A proper attacking manager finally.

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Post by nasir6371 on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:33 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:You know what was really classic Coutinho?

Every single time ( other than the assist Laughing ) he was trying to create space to shoot Laughing

This is my problem with him, he has tunnel vision on at all times and rarely looks to pass.



Couldn't agree more. And when he had a chance to shoot and get Brazil back into the game he sky'ed it. Laughing

He's too limited to play as a midfielder against top teams.

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Post by Nishankly on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:33 pm

This is an upset imo. Fellaini is WC if used correctly I'll accept that as well.
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Post by Robespierre on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:40 pm

Premier League all stars got this !

Fantastic, really fantastic though.
I usually hate "hype" , but I've always believe on Belgian hype. Because their generation is not fraud, it is true (they can even not call up good players as Nainggolan) , and finally they can get recognition for it .
They just needed of a coach who wasn't excessively stupid so as to emerge . how much time wasted behind that fraud carried by Uefa Cup 97 :facepalm:
sincerely Hazard represents a defeat for the atheism today , and I say it as atheist.
But special mention for Courtois who denies glory to that N°10 with that fantastic save. Beautiful legend.
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Post by Unique on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:41 pm

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naymar rofl rofl rofl

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Post by breva on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:42 pm

@RealGunner wrote:EPL experienced players came through for Beglium.

best league in the world.



Not even close. La Liga has around 20 points more than the other 4 top leagues in Europe.
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Post by Unique on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:43 pm

glad firmino is coming home without much game play. should be fresh after a 2 week holiday cheers

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Post by futbol_bill on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:44 pm

Brst game, by far, of this world cup!
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