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Post by vanDEEZ on Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:02 pm

Totally agree with Doc. Hiring Guti would be a risk just like hiring Zidane was a risk, but at least with Zidane it was much more calculated and he had a lot more going for him. We knew he had an eye for talent (helping with Varanasi signing), he coached at a higher level, and he was being groomed for the job by being made assistant manager. And as Doc said, we had a squad that was a recent CL winner, just unbalanced when ZZ took over. It didn’t take a genius to rebalance the midfield.

With Guti we have almost none of that. He doesn’t have the experience (yet), he doesn’t have the “legendary” status Zidane has, and he doesn’t have a peaking squad- he has a decaying old squad.

If we want Guti to be manager some day, we need to wait to see more of him in a managerial role, and give him time. The timing right now just isn’t right. I’m not saying it won’t work out, but it’s much less likely than when Zidane was appointed.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:12 pm

Not to mention that he wouldn't be able to scold them for any lack of discipline or intensity because he was one of the most undisciplined players in Madrid history.

Zidane is a BdO winner, a world champion, a European champion, and on top of that he was very professional, calm and hard-working as a player. The players had no choice but to listen to him because not only did he command respect but also he had his impressive record to back his motivational speech with.

The players would be rolling on the floor laughing if Guti tried to lecture them about discipline or consistency.

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Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:05 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:Not to mention that he wouldn't be able to scold them for any lack of discipline or intensity because he was one of the most undisciplined players in Madrid history.

Zidane is a BdO winner, a world champion, a European champion, and on top of that he was very professional, calm and hard-working as a player. The players had no choice but to listen to him because not only did he command respect but also he had his impressive record to back his motivational speech with.

The players would be rolling on the floor laughing if Guti tried to lecture them about discipline or consistency.


Not necessarily. Guti is said to be a very demanding coach and a good friend of Ramos

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:17 pm

This idea that all you need to coach Madrid is to 1) be a former player and 2) have some experience coaching our youth team is absolutely terrible.

You have to recognize how exceptional Zidane is, and how favorable the context in which he coach the team was. Thinking this will easily be reproduced is naive.


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Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:30 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:This idea that all you need to coach Madrid is to 1) be a former player and 2) have some experience coaching our youth team is absolutely terrible.

You have to recognize how exceptional Zidane is, and how favorable the context in which he coach the team was. Thinking this will easily be reproduced is naive.



I'm not at all for Guti lol but the players would respect him for sure. If we won't get Sarri, Wenger for 2 seasons would do for me tbh.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:44 pm

Our players are not a bunch of animals they would disrespect everyone. Why is everyone assuming that our players are savages who can't behave properly with their coaches? This is no doubt because of what happened with Benitez but Benitez made a lot of negative changes which killed him with the squad. Not every manager is going to come in and be that stupid.


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Post by guest7 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:54 pm

True dat nick, all these talks about our players having big egos is so wrong.

They are mature and have been since Ancelottis/Zidane's leadership
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Post by titosantill on Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:36 am

@guest7 wrote:True dat nick, all these talks about our players having big egos is so wrong.

They are mature and have been since Ancelottis/Zidane's leadership


that kind of contradicts your statement in the previous paragraph. that bold part emphasizes that the reason they've been mature is the leadership of ancelotti and zidane, rather than them not having egos
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Post by phenom on Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:46 am

From the looks of Salah interview in Marca seems he has not forgiven Ramos n blames him for the injury

Difficult for him to come to Madrid now
Wish he replaced Bale though
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Post by vanDEEZ on Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:19 pm

I think it would have been tough regardless considering Liverpool just signed him. And now with no manager it’s even less likely.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:26 pm

@titosantill wrote:
@guest7 wrote:True dat nick, all these talks about our players having big egos is so wrong.

They are mature and have been since Ancelottis/Zidane's leadership


that kind of contradicts your statement in the previous paragraph. that bold part emphasizes that the reason they've been mature is the leadership of ancelotti and zidane, rather than them not having egos
guess7 contradicting himself is nothing new

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:44 am

without saying needless comments, y'all are just lost

how am I contradicting myself when I commented on their GROWTH with proper leadership. obviously the leadership helped them GROW and now it's no longer needed, since their ego died.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:27 am

Nah, our locker-room has been just fine for a long time. They have only reacted to negative managers in 2 instances: 1) When Mou lost his mind; 2) when Benitez acted like an idiot.

Other than that, they have been just fine. You can argue that Ancelotti has excellent man management and people person skills. He came into our locker room and he let our players be who they are without trying to change that. Zidane who has been around since the Mou days, was witness to everything, and obviously he leveraged all that he saw.

But then again, Bayern players ran Carlo out of Munich the same way our players ran Benitez out. what does that say about Carlo? Laughing

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:51 am

Nah I claim it's different. It's been unstable until Ancelotti. His Bayern Munich tenure doesn't mean much since he doesn't speak fluent German and that makes it harder.

They grew alot under Carlo and it was noticable, and it upped Ramos leadership game. If we had another San Leaker today, Ramos would whoop his shoulder like he ruined Mo Salahs shoulder

mostly amazed by Kroos leadership, he gives 10/10 interviews
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Post by Doc on Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:57 pm

Officially, Madrid signed Rodrygo from Santos.

Santos president José Carlos Peres confirmed that Real Madrid and Santos FC reached an agreement for a sale of Rodrygo Silva de Goes for 45 million euros.

Santos FC held 80% of Rodrygo’s rights and they asked for at least 40 million euros. The remaining 20% was held by Rodrygo’s entourage and they waived any claims for a reimbursement for their share of his rights.

Rodrygo will join Real Madrid next summer after he turns 18, due to FIFA regulations on transfers of underage players.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:19 pm

I don't think it's done just yet Doc

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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:56 pm

Gimenez just renewed, don't know the contract details but it is until 2023, so that ship sailed unfortunately.
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Post by Doc on Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:44 am

@vanDEEZ wrote:Gimenez just renewed, don't know the contract details but it is until 2023, so that ship sailed unfortunately.

Damn it

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:22 pm

Apparently the Alisson deal is about to go through 70m (he has agreed personal terms just hammering out the final transfer figure). That is quite a bit. I'd almost rather pay 100m for De Gea, or do some swap deal for Bale.
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Post by sportsczy on Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:18 pm

So Bale wants to stay loooooooooooooooool

Another year of BBC it is.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:37 pm

Yeah I read that this morning. I bet Lopetegui is going to try to hold on to everyone at the start, since he might not have assurances of getting the players he wants in due to the WC. We will see though.
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Post by The Madrid One on Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:52 pm

We have signed 19 year old Ukrainian Goalkeeper Andriy Lunin.

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Post by Doc on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:08 am

Note that this is according to Marca, Madrid has not confirmed it as yet. All I know of him is that in my FM save file, that fker became better than Donnaruma.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:50 am

he will play at castilla most likely, right?

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Post by sportsczy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:24 am

I'm still waiting us to sign a striker ffs... we are going to, right?

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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:09 am

Maybe not, what strikers are even available at this point?
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