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Post by danyjr Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:36 pm

Robespierre wrote:Flop so far, played and lost badly every big match basically

So true.
Drew against United and Liverpool at home.
Lost to Spurs away.
Lost to City at home and away.
Won vs 3-2 vs Arsenal at home but lost 0-2 away.

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Post by rincon Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:37 pm

They definitely beat City at home
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Post by danyjr Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:44 pm

My bad you're right. 2-0 at home.

0-4 (and counting) away.
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Post by danyjr Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:52 pm

Didn't even shake hands with Pep rofl

If I were him I would say "you won but I have more hair than you" during the handshake.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:56 pm

I'm not sure this is Sarri's fault. They've had like three managers in a row, they all start out good then the squad sabotages itself.
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Post by Mamad Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:05 pm

They lack quality players.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:43 pm

Especially he lost against Tottenham , Arsenal and City without fighting.
You can also lose, but not in this way and if it happens over and over again...
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:48 pm

Mamad wrote:They lack quality players.
i disagree, his tactics are crap.
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Post by CBarca Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:54 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Mamad wrote:They lack quality players.
i disagree, his tactics are crap.


One thing to lose

Another thing to lose by the scorelines he's lost by. You can't put this on the quality of players, which is a pretty high quality.
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Post by danyjr Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:57 pm

How many of Chelsea players could get into City's team?

I reckon only Higuaín, Kanté and Hazard.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:03 pm

And Tottenham?
Is there really so much gap between two teams?
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Post by CBarca Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:09 pm

danyjr wrote:How many of Chelsea players could get into City's team?

I reckon only Higuaín, Kanté and Hazard.


Why are we comparing them to City?

Compare them to Tottenham, Arsenal, maybe even Liverpool or Man U

Sarri's Chelsea is comparable to all of them. He is below all of them.

He's 10 points below Spurs who have barely put out a fully fit XI this entire season and didn't buy a single player in the summer or winter transfer windows. There are no excuses for that
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Post by McLewis Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:20 am

Future Roma coach on this form tbh.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:00 am

Sarri is brilliant but his consistent idealism is and always has been his downfall.

When you do not have the players to play your signature imprint of football, you will be lucky to win any game. In Napoli he did, in Chelsea he does not.

And for Chelsea to suffer as a result of his lack of foresight here, is his fault.

This loss is not a representation of his abilities as a manager, but his abilities to adapt to which always have resulted him in being a second place manager no matter what victories come to amaze us.
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Post by Jay29 Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:04 am

Before the City game, I looked at Chelsea's numbers this season and thought they weren't too bad. They had the fourth best defence in the league and their chance creation is on par with Arsenal and Tottenham. Their position seemed very similar to Mourinho's Chelsea 2013/14 where they have obvious problems in attack. That Chelsea then signed Fabregas and Costa and strolled to the title next season. My thinking was that this Chelsea could so something similar and be competitive next season.

Tbh, the 6-0 doesn't change my view much. I thought Chelsea were a little unfortunate to concede two goals outside the penalty area in such a short space of time. If it's 2-0 I think they keep fighting. At 4-0 the players give up and at that point the scoreline can be anything.

The problem is that if this continues and Chelsea finish outside the top four, Sarri won't be around to continue his project. He and Chelsea don't seem to be a very good match, because Chelsea have always prioritised the short-term and will bin any manager who isn't an instant success while Sarri is the type of coach who needs a couple of seasons to embed his style properly. It'll be very interesting to see if Chelsea back him by revamping their squad or if they'll back the players again.

The fact that leaks like this one are appearing doesn't bode well for Sarri:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-chelsea-fc-result-final-score-goals-maurizio-sarri-job-next-a8773131.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Some players have privately started to complain that everything is “too tactical” and that there is now an overload of instructions that they can’t keep up with. Others wonder whether this squad is actually tactically intelligent enough to really learn this.

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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:20 am

danyjr wrote:How many of Chelsea players could get into City's team?

I reckon only Higuaín, Kanté and Hazard.

If you say Higuain then you also have to mention Azpi and Jorginho.

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Post by Glory Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:16 pm

Will never say to stick by a manager who had his team concede 6 goals in a match, but Chelsea fans should at least now wake up and understand the real problem. The players.  They have some really good players, but the player power in that dressing room is unreal. I mean yea, these days, it’s a prevalent thing and all. But for Chelsea, I don’t know, it has always felt, they have it way more than other clubs.  And the board has to take full responsibility for letting it to get to this stage. The players know now, if they stop trying, the higher ups will fire the manager and hire a new one.  Sarri might not be the answer (Playing Kante, the best DM in the world as an attacking mid, that’s beyond acceptable, whatever the reason and on top of that, his replacement has been dross too). But they simply shouldn’t stop there. Majority of those players should be shown the way out. And the first one’s got to be Hazard.

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Post by adun101 Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:17 pm

So, another formerly successful manager fails miserably at Chelsea. Unexpectedly.

Roman should sell the club. Or hire someone who knows what he's doing to run it and let him do it in peace.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:19 pm

Myesyats wrote:
danyjr wrote:How many of Chelsea players could get into City's team?

I reckon only Higuaín, Kanté and Hazard.

If you say Higuain then you also have to mention Azpi and Jorginho.
Azpi couldn't do it and Jorginho hasn't played well this year

Tbh if Mourinho, Conte and Sarri all fail with the same mental midgets the squad is in need of a major revamp. Seems like we go through this story every year.
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Post by rincon Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:36 pm

Hazard had an interview some weeks ago where he said he frustrated Sarri, and his past coaches, and that he would frustrate his next coach too; because they asked him to do more or different things which he isn't willing to do.

The players don't buy into the coaches or the club, they know that they are in charge and that the coach can get fired and so on.

Sarri is the wrong person for the job if they don't want to back his style. But whoever the club choose next, they need to actually support him and shake up the squad.
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Post by iftikhar Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:28 pm

'I think' Chelsea needs a squad overhaul. Not only these players feel too secure doing next to nothing, they aren't going to get any better either.
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:39 pm

Its difficult to follow and understand football at times, I mean certain managers and teams, how can they zip zap like Chelsea this season, and Sarri so highly rated, started so well and than this collapse so soon Very Happy That snub to Pep at the end was just unbelievable Very Happy

I never rated him much when everyone was talking about his Napoli, since whenever I watched him mainly being in the CL, getting raped by Real easily, just werent impressed. But still, especially after the good start to the season, to this, unbelievable.
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Post by Kaladin Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:16 pm

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Post by Arquitecto Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:50 pm

Kaladin wrote:Stop posting


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Post by danyjr Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:13 pm

adun101 wrote:So, another formerly successful manager fails miserably at Chelsea. Unexpectedly.

Roman should sell the club. Or hire someone who knows what he's doing to run it and let him do it in peace.

Sarri is in no way shape or form considered successful. The guy was a nobody before he joined Napoli and hopefully will go back to his roots once he is shown the boot by Abramovich.
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Post by danyjr Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:18 pm

Myesyats wrote:
danyjr wrote:How many of Chelsea players could get into City's team?

I reckon only Higuaín, Kanté and Hazard.

If you say Higuain then you also have to mention Azpi and Jorginho.

Naah Jorginho wouldn't cut it imho. I'm surprised by how slow he is. He excelled in Italy and their defensive minded, slower paced football. He just can't cope with the pace and physicality of EPL.
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