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Post by Warrior on Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:34 am

@Robespierre wrote:I am on GL not only because it is a place where you can talk about football with good people, but also because it is a forum.
I like forums. An ephemeral chat with instantaneous messagges don't give same sensations. Internet culture is probably changed, but I don't want to change. Best Internet era is that of forums , and no social network who have produced a one-dimensional man not by chance



Agreed 100%

In fact GoalLegacy is correct as it is right now.

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:43 am

@Firenze wrote:delete/archive all club sections, idc about history or the fact a couple are still active..give those active ones sticky threads in the general section, Arsenal, Madrid etc

if there's demand from other fanbases, they can get a sticky too..I'm sure you'll get the same activity

matter of fact just keep all footballing discussion in the GS IMO and have a few sticky threads for stuff like not worthy of a thread, comparing players etc

there's no need for anything besides general section currently and hasn't been for a few years now and having sections with like barely any posts makes the forum look dead AF, when the general section gets decent activity.

No need for anything other than GS and The Hub and some of those should be merged too tbh

It's my same opinion.
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Post by S on Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:57 am

My recommendations for the hub:

Have a separate section for other sports since NBA thread is quite popular over here. You can just rename it to other sports.

And you can merge the gaming and entertainment into one section

Odds and ends and life and humor should be merged as mentioned by others

I really don't know if Technology and politics section should be merged though so you guys have to work that out. Maybe rename it 'Miscellaneous' I guess ? And under the miscellaneous title you can have the title description say politics, technology and other categories.

Basically this is how it revamp the hub :

-Other Sports
(Insert title description)

-Gaming and Entertainment
(Insert title description)

-Life and Humor
(Insert title description)

-Miscellaneous
(Insert title description)
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Post by S on Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:15 am

There's also no use of RB section anymore. Have the comparisons in the GS if need be. If you feel that would 'lower' the quality of discussions, let me tell you that 50% of the discussion in GS is just trolling, bantering and derailing threads so there's no point anymore in having a dedicated section for player comparisons. It's just a goal.com tradition  that's carried over here and most members are grown up by now to even bother about pissing contests like the old days
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Post by The Madrid One on Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Maybe clean debate and RB section can be replaced by a new section called "serious debate" where people can talk about more "Academic" aspects such as tactics, match analysis, team diagrams/schematics, statistics, and it could be inclusive of RB section's purpose.

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Post by zigra on Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:50 pm

In clean debate the last post was done in 2016 - it's as dead as it gets. MM section is close and even in the RB section you got threads on page one in which people haven't posted for 2 years.

Even put together these 3 forums don't need their own sub forum. You can easily merge them into the general discussion. Maybe put a [serious posts only] in the title or stuff like that.

Basically the same is true for politics and science. It makes sense to have separate forums for this stuff but only if you got decent activity. If not you can just merge it into a single forum and maybe put in the OP if this is more about banter or serious stuff.

Other sports I don't know. If NBA fans think it makes sense to have more than one thread, it might make sense.
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Post by Art Morte on Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:12 pm

I'd try to concentrate as much of football conversation as possible into the General section. When activity is low, you should put it all in one place, imo.

For example, a few Liverpool posters still occasionally use the LFC section, but at this point I think it would be better to have a "Liverpool thread" in the General section (and maybe close the club sections). Club sections are good when you have enough fans talking in detail about their club and players - discussions tend to be more serious in dedicated club sections, which is a definite plus - but once activity drops below a certain level I'd say it's better to just talk in the General section, so neutrals might take part a bit more often.

You could even have a vote within posters of different clubs on whether they'd like to keep their section open or close it and talk about their club in the General section.

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Post by RealGunner on Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:38 pm

@Warrior wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:you mean completely remove the country bit? can't do that.


i suppose the entity that hosts GL does not have a function to deactivate it ? Shame for me, now it looks like shit



Why do you want it to disappear?
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Post by iftikhar on Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:57 pm

#1. Hub should remain below Club section. It's a football forum after all.

#2. Clubs which has low activity should be collated under a League Section. So, if there's not much activity in Inter or Bayern sections they would be collated under German and Italian league section respectively.

#3. TOO MANY duplicate/redundant/unnecessary thread on same topic. PLEASE be VERY strict on this.
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:59 pm

@Art Morte wrote:I'd try to concentrate as much of football conversation as possible into the General section. When activity is low, you should put it all in one place, imo.

For example, a few Liverpool posters still occasionally use the LFC section, but at this point I think it would be better to have a "Liverpool thread" in the General section (and maybe close the club sections). Club sections are good when you have enough fans talking in detail about their club and players - discussions tend to be more serious in dedicated club sections, which is a definite plus - but once activity drops below a certain level I'd say it's better to just talk in the General section, so neutrals might take part a bit more often.

You could even have a vote within posters of different clubs on whether they'd like to keep their section open or close it and talk about their club in the General section.



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Post by S on Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:04 pm

Juventus, Arsenal and Madrid sections deserve their own space as each of these three clubs have more active members here. All 3 sections are fairly active. I don't know about the rest.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:04 pm

@Doc wrote:As long as people don't be harassing posters about their team, I don't mind seeing a Madrid thread in the GS. As for new sections, a proper NBA section might be something to look into as Freeza would definitely be experiencing a new form of suffering this coming season.




Think the thread is enough to hold Freeza's emotional train wreck tbh.
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Post by El Gunner on Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:23 pm

Yeah one NBA thread is enough
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Post by RealGunner on Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:29 pm

We have quite a big and active gaming/other sports/ entertainment community. So mixing all of them together isn't a great idea.

Odds n ends is definitely merging. Science and tech can go with life and humour. But entertainment and other sports/games should probably be kept separate.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:35 pm

Not convinced anything needs to be done with regards to sports/gaming/entertainment tbh.

Only way it makes sense to change it if interests overlap on a similar topic like a game and a TV series on the same subject.

But I'm not sure that's worth revamping it for that reason alone.
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Post by Warrior on Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:54 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Warrior wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:you mean completely remove the country bit? can't do that.


i suppose the entity that hosts GL does not have a function to deactivate it ? Shame for me, now it looks like shit



Why do you want it to disappear?



Just a matter of preference i wish it could be as before. I wanted to show support to Croatia and now i have to display "RO blank". Since you told be nothing can be done i have stopped caring.
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Post by RealGunner on Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:00 pm

but why don't you just put canada's flag instead?
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Post by rincon on Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:06 pm

For it doesn't show anything. It says "country:" and that's it, looks fine.
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:36 pm

Country is supposed to be the country where you are from/reside in and not the country you support, Warrior hmm
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Post by RealGunner on Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:47 pm

anything to add Hans?
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Post by Unique on Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:21 pm

@RealGunner wrote:anything to add Hans?
hans said we need a porn section plus 75% added to me warning level. Thumbs up

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:30 am

@RealGunner wrote:anything to add Hans?


give me a couple of hours to read back in this thread

one thing I can say right now though that there's no need to keep a whole Bayern section just for my sake

what I wonder though, what happens with the threads of a section that is scrapped? Do they go under General Football? Is content deleted?

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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:00 am

Same for me , as said
Give us the honor to open threads of own clubs on general section then tbh
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Post by rincon on Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:26 am

^Yes.

Make these GS club speficic threads "serious"only. That is, no trolling from rival fans. Unless its about Juan Jesus imo.
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Post by Firenze on Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:42 am

I can understand that actually, people in the active club sections enjoy it for serious discussion around the team, whereas general section is mostly banter. So yeah, I really do think that there should just be stickied thread at the top of the GS for Juve, Arsenal, Madrid etc but if that happened there should be a disclaimer that the thread is for serious discussion (I mean there's a place and time for banter everywhere but the thread/discussions shouldn't be derailed by it)

For me, the layout should be simple;

General Section with the mentioned sticky threads, Gaming/Entertainment and then Misc. for evertything els. Just those 3 Sections.

Oh and obviously Announcements for RG's bi-yearly updates.
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Post by S on Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:52 am

Getting rid of the Arsenal, Juve and Madrid sections would be too radical and I think having so many stickied threads would clutter the GS even more

I'm not down with this idea for now.
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