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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:29 pm

here we go, first game tomorrow. we can use this thread for the home and away game
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:36 pm

Kroos as a holding mid with Isco playing at the center of the park.  Courtois may get his first look too.  Modric to start. Same lineup otherwise.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:49 pm

When Keylor took that first goal from Diego Costa on the first post, with that angle, i was like "that's it for you son, thank you for your service" lol
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:00 pm

I think it would be good to show confidence in Courtois. As for midfield, I think we can get away with a more attacking side with Kroos as a holding mid. I'm interested to see how we will line up. I just hope there are changes compared to the Atleti game.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:06 pm

i am watching PSG right now playing a bunch of kids from their youth team in the league, and i am like lol, i would love to see the same from us. Our young players are talented, and need to be given more chances.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:26 pm

I’ve been saying for a while now, our starting lineup (until additional late signings) has Isco and Asensio with Casemiro on bench!

I also read yesterday that Navas may go as part of a deal to bring in another striker. Thst’s Why they are holding on to so many porteros for now.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:27 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:i am watching PSG right now playing a bunch of kids from their youth team in the league, and i am like lol, i would love to see the same from us. Our young players are talented, and need to be given more chances.
they are not playing well and they are down 1 now Laughing kids Laughing

@Bill, Casemiro will be a starter, he just came back from the world cup lol
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:05 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:When Keylor took that first goal from Diego Costa on the first post, with that angle, i was like "that's it for you son, thank you for your service" lol

Seriously. Cardinal sin for keeper.
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Post by The Madrid One Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:30 pm

It is important to start winning with a bang, ill throw this line up out there.

Courtois
Carvajal Nacho Ramos Reguilon
Kroos
Ceballos Isco
Bale Benzema Asensio

Result: 3-1
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:33 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:i am watching PSG right now playing a bunch of kids from their youth team in the league, and i am like lol, i would love to see the same from us. Our young players are talented, and need to be given more chances.
they are not playing well and they are down 1 now Laughing kids Laughing

@Bill, Casemiro will be a starter, he just came back from the world cup lol


I think depending upon opposition, but I am fairly sure it is Kroos or Casemiro as holding mid (in Lopetequi’s scheme). Similarly it is Asensio or Isco.

In other words, again barring no new arrivals, we have a starting 13 for 11 positions depending of course on opposition.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:16 pm

It's not about opposition, it's about balance, we have been through this already. Kroos needs protection in midfield, he cant play by himself, or with Modric, it's not good enough.

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Post by futbol_bill Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:29 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:It's not about opposition, it's about balance, we have been through this already. Kroos needs protection in midfield, he cant play by himself, or with Modric, it's not good enough.


We’ll see. This is Lopetequi’s team, not Zidane’s. We do know that Isco will play more and that expectations of midfielders will be different. I don’t see Kroos or Modric having any difficulties, but Casemiro yes.

For now, let’s agree to disagree and talk about outcome in October!
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:41 pm

Lopetegui is not going to magically make Kroos become a good defender, not to mention that our pressing is not that good yet. It would just be irresponsible to play Kroos alone in midfield, not to mention Isco is not exactly a great defender for a midfielder. he works hard but there are limits to what he can do
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Post by Freeza Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:47 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:When Keylor took that first goal from Diego Costa on the first post, with that angle, i was like "that's it for you son, thank you for your service" lol

Seriously. Cardinal sin for keeper.


Almost got an aneurysm when the Danish commentators said “nothing he could do about that”
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:00 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Lopetegui is not going to magically make Kroos become a good defender, not to mention that our pressing is not that good yet. It would just be irresponsible to play Kroos alone in midfield, not to mention Isco is not exactly a great defender for a midfielder. he works hard but there are limits to what he can do

Don't forget Marcelo creating defensive stress too. It's just not responsible.

Not sure what the heck we're doing. We needed a backup DM, a CF and another CB to make the numbers. So far... nothing.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:12 am

as a side note, kovacic was very, very impressive with chelsea.. i really don't want you guys to get the impression that i hate ceballos or something because i do like him, and i want him to succeed here. i like his hustle and his technique

but we should've kept kovacic and at the very least, promised him more minutes. he would've been incredible in this system. and with casemiro out, we have to play kroos as DM Laughing because our coach doesn't rate llorente
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Post by Cyborg Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:25 pm

It should be

Courtois
Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
LLorente
Modric Kroos
Bale Benzema Asensio



LLorente looked great this pre season.  The only way he'll develop is to play him. Loads of potential to be great in that position.
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Post by Zees Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:13 pm

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Kiko included but no Llorente scratch
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:36 pm

Kovacic is also a good option for 4231, a system which Lope seems to fancy
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:14 pm

Kova wanted to play regularly. He's going to soon get that chance at Chelsea. Never had a chance at Madrid this season.

Nothing to talk about. It was an impossible situation. No way he was going to stay.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:50 pm

Unless Llorente is injured, this doubles down on the point I made in the other thread- Lopetegui doesn't think Llorente is good enough so he is being sacrificed in order to force Perez to bring in another midfielder before the window ends.

I've never particularly rated him, you can even go back to when everyone was hyping him when he was on loan- I was probably the only one saying how average he was. Can he improve? Yes, but if Lopetegui doesn't rate him, and ZZ didn't rate him, then he is probably just a low-mid table LL player.

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Post by futbol_bill Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:13 pm

I say he is going. Sold or loan I don’t know, but I did read they were taking with La Real.

As to new mid, I think the priorities are CB and CF. Kroos is viewed as alternative re holding mid and they do have Isco or Casemiro plus Ceballos and Valverde for depth.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:24 pm

I think squad list to pretty well set.

Courtois, Navas, ? (I say Casilla sold, likely to Sevilla), lunin loaned and the nepatism kid likely also sold (if anyone will take him. Interesting Sports said last year lots of offers for him yet nothing this year Lol) and practice GK someone from Castilla)

Carvajal, Odiozola, Varane, Nacho, Ramis, Vallejo(inj), Marcelo, Reguilon

Modric, Ceballos, Kroos, Casemiro, Isco,Valverde

Bale, Lucas, Benzema, Mayoral, Asensio, Vinícius

If they get a CF, out goes Mayoral and if they get a CB, out goes Vallejo.

My only doubt at this point is Reguilon.


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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:28 pm

It's such a shame Llorente is being shunned by Lope. He was winning alot of balls in preseason and his teammates always praise him. Even Ramos did way last season. Maybe he doesn't get down and slide tackle the way Casemiro loves to do but he always ends up having as many interceptions and defensive stats as him. I dare say if Llorente had been subbed in against Atleti we wouldn't have concede the 2 last goals because that's where Llorente/Casemiro had been
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Post by The Madrid One Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:15 pm

As much as i'd like to see Valverde's road cleared up like that, if Llorente leaves (which he should for his own sake) we def need to get another midfielder.
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