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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:14 pm

I love American Gangster, i can't decide if i'm wrong or RG is hmm

GL pls decide.

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Post by M99 Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:40 pm

I liked it a lot. Denzel was immense.

Although it is pretty much a fabrication. Biggest thing is the real Frank Lucas was a ratchet ass hoodlum, nowhere near as elegant and suave as Denzel was Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:43 pm

I didn't say it was a bad film btw mole. I liked it as well but just felt like a rehash of many other superior gangster films

Denzel is immense in most things so it was a easy watch due to his performance. Norman Reedus has a cameo in it too ffs Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:57 pm

RealGunner wrote:I didn't say it was a bad film btw mole. I liked it as well but just felt like a rehash of many other superior gangster films

Denzel is immense in most things so it was a easy watch due to his performance. Norman Reedus has a cameo in it too ffs Laughing



I know you didn't, i believe you said underwhelming but i still disagree lol.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:01 am

^^Ridley Scott's best film.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:06 am

It also has one of old man Jay-Z most underrated songs post 2005.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:56 pm

Finally watched john wick 3

some of the set pieces were so good.

Bronn playing Italian Bronn lmao

Love Keanu ffs

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Post by Freeza Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:41 pm

Just watched Saturday Night Fever for the first time.

I don't know if any soundtrack has, or will ever surpass this. Absolutely GOAT stuff.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:30 pm

Going to watch midsommar next week
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:11 pm

RealGunner wrote:Going to watch midsommar next week

noice
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Post by McLewis Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:38 pm

The twitter meltdown over Halle Bailey being cast as Ariel in the live action Little Mermaid movie has been hilarious. Laughing
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Post by Freeza Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:48 pm

I love when people complain about someone changing something about a story where Disney changed bunches from the original story in the first place.

I haven’t heard anyone complain about them not casting danish actors in the roles ever. It’s the most famous danish story ever, but race isn’t a part of it.

As long as she can sing the songs I’m good.

Emma Watson was absolutely dreadful in every regard
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:53 pm

McLewis wrote:The twitter meltdown over Halle Bailey being cast as Ariel in the live action Little Mermaid movie has been hilarious. Laughing
I had to read that 5 times to understand that we were not talking about Halle Berry
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:51 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
McLewis wrote:The twitter meltdown over Halle Bailey being cast as Ariel in the live action Little Mermaid movie has been hilarious. Laughing
I had to read that 5 times to understand that we were not talking about Halle Berry


Entire yesterday i read Halle Bailey as Halle Berry and was confused why they casted someone so old lol.

Little mermaid is one of Disney's shitter characters so couldn't care less. Funny how serious some people are taking the casting though
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Post by McLewis Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:09 pm

Literally everyone thought Halle Berry got casted Laughing. Honestly though, I now lowkey need her to be in the movie. Not sure what role, but maybe as Ariel's mom in a brief cameo before she dies or something.


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Post by McLewis Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:14 pm

Freeza wrote:I love when people complain about someone changing something about a story where Disney changed bunches from the original story in the first place.

I haven’t heard anyone complain about them not casting danish actors in the roles ever. It’s the most famous danish story ever, but race isn’t a part of it.

As long as she can sing the songs I’m good.

Emma Watson was absolutely dreadful in every regard


See I thought about the fact that this story is Danish yet I saw no one talking about this. This is clearly not widely known and that in itself is sad.
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Post by Freeza Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:36 pm

Frozen is also Danish, but it’s such a bastardisation of the original story.

I’m surprised no one knows it’s a danish story. One of our most famous landmarks is the Little Mermaid statue
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Post by futbol Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:23 pm

It's enormously cringe to cast a black Ariell when she is widely known as a redhead with pale white skin, Hollywood with their usual political agenda so they can pat themselves on the back and feel like they've done something good for humanity. But it also triggers the correct people so I'll allow it.

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Post by Freeza Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:36 pm

Shes widely known as a fucking rock without any know race because she’s a fucking mermaid.

Can’t wait until the ugly duckling casting controversy
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:21 pm

The Witcher books have a version of the little mermaid story in them, wonder if it will make it to the series
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Post by El Gunner Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:21 pm

futbol wrote:It's enormously cringe to cast a black Ariell when she is widely known as a redhead with pale white skin, Hollywood with their usual political agenda so they can pat themselves on the back and feel like they've done something good for humanity. But it also triggers the correct people so I'll allow it.


What I don't get is why some white people are so sensitive when it comes to skin colour?
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:51 pm

My guess is they're trying to make up for all the years of slavery.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:59 am

futbol wrote:It's enormously cringe to cast a black Ariell when she is widely known as a redhead with pale white skin, Hollywood with their usual political agenda so they can pat themselves on the back and feel like they've done something good for humanity. But it also triggers the correct people so I'll allow it.


god forbid they cast the best actor they could get for the role as opposed to the one that matches the fictional character's race Rolling Eyes

when one thinks "ariel" the word that pops up is mermaid, not "fair skinned redhead". It's not a big deal and I don't get why anyone would treat it as such. It's not like her being fair skinned is in any part related to the character arc
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:55 am

It's not a big deal but it feels forced. Its just funny how hard they're trying to seem progressive.

Just create more black heroes instead of turning the white ones black. Can you imagine if they remade Aladdin as a pale skin red head? Wouldnt really work.

Little mermaid is a 19th century Danish tale so of course Ariel is white.
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Post by McLewis Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:21 pm

Myesyats wrote:It's not a big deal but it feels forced. Its just funny how hard they're trying to seem progressive.

Just create more black heroes instead of turning the white ones black. Can you imagine if they remade Aladdin as a pale skin red head? Wouldnt really work.

Little mermaid is a 19th century Danish tale so of course Ariel is white.


I have several problems with this post.

1. White folks would not shut the fuck up about Black Panther and were butthurt when we celebrated it as an achievement of black cinema to the point where it's premiere nights featured the cast and prominent black actors and musicians dressing up in traditional African garb. I was told this was apparently overkill by the white folks on my twitter feed, reddit, FB and everywhere else imaginable. The movie itself was repeatedly called "overhyped and overrated, etc" by those same white folks as well when in reality, it was no better or worse than any of the other Marvel movies honestly. Maybe it was FOMO or something. So even when we have a hero that looks like us to celebrate, wypipo still found reasons to shit on it. There's literally no way around this apparently.

2. Aladdin is distinctively Arab given that it comes from Arabian Nights, a uniquely and singularly Arabic tale. The ethnicity of those characters is central to the story.  Unlike an Arabic (yet human) main character, mermaids like Ariel are mythical creatures. They're literally made up. Therefore, they can be any color imaginable. Returning to Aladdin, how did you feel about Will Smith as a "blue" genie? No one seemed to have a problem with a white guy playing that role. It's considered one of the best animated performances of all time FFS. What about Moses depiction as a white man in the Prince of Egypt when his skin color would've been decided darker? How about Robin Hood (a white guy who probably didn't even exist) as a goddamn fox?

Why is any of that ok, but casting a black singer as a creature of absolute myth such a problem?
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Post by futbol Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:42 pm

The argument that mermaids don't really exist so they could be portrayed as anything is weak. The whole thing originates from Hans Christian Andersen’s book "The Little Mermaid" in which he describes Arielle as follows:

…They were six lovely girls, but the youngest was the most beautiful of them all. Her skin was as soft and tender as a rose petal, and her eyes were as blue as the deep sea, but like all the others she had no feet. Her body ended in a fish tail.
…Lowering her gaze, she saw that her fish tail was gone, and that she had the loveliest pair of white legs any young maid could hope to have. But she was naked, so she clothed herself in her own long hair.

There are certain established and iconic characters and how they look like is already embedded in people's minds, if you drastically change that for identity politics purposes you gotta expect the backlash.

What next? Fat Batman and Obese Superman to send a signal against bodyshaming?

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