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Post by rincon on Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:24 am

6 points from YB
4-6 points from United
4-6 points from Valencia

As long as we get 4 from the big teams then we win the groups comfortably. Cool to get Valencia away done at the start.
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Post by lucianomoggi on Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:37 pm

juve is good enough
hope the luck is on our side
and i think we can win ucl this season

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Post by rincon on Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:45 pm

We are back on Wednesday!

Away at Valencia so one of the hardest fixtures. We just need to not lose, I think we'll win.

I think Max will play 3 midfielders and Mandzukic to try to secure a result in a "safe" way. Dumbass Costa made that ridiculous show that will get him banned in Serie A, and probably also benched by Max in CL. De Sciglio was supposed to play today vs Sassuolo but got injured during the warm up, so Cancelo will likely start again at Valencia.

What I think:

Szczesny; Alex, Chiellini, Bonucci, Cancelo; Matuidi, Pjanic, Khedira; Ronaldo, Mandzukic, Bernardeschi

Dybala could play for Khedira as well and setup with the 4-2-3-1.
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Post by rincon on Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:25 pm

Top game from the team. 10 men away in the CL and came out with a 2-0 win.

Some thoughts:

Chiellini and Bonucci were flawless in the center. Feels great to have this connection again. Chiellini was a giant and Bonucci was key to moving the ball around.

Cancelo had looked great but also looked vulnerable in defense in the league. Luckily that vulnerability didn't come up today and he beasted. Looks confident and skillful. Very encouraging start to his Juve career.

Szczesny and Pjanic with the cool heads at both ends of the penalties giving the team certainty.

Bernardeschi getting absolutely everything right. Never stopped running and always made the right decisions. When we had 11 he was driving the attack, when we needed to keep the ball or defend, he was always there.

Matuidi looks refreshed this season. Actually useful and dependable so far.

Alex, Mandzukic and Can were good but not as exceptional as the rest. Khedira obviously was irrelevant.
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Post by rincon on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:31 pm

Strangest game tonight. How is it possible we lost that.

Impeccable match for most of the game from most of the team, then come Khedira and Cuadrado. Both of those even did well before the final third but jesus christ how did they screw up the last moves so badly.

Worst of all though, Szczesny. He has not been good enough this season. What was that today? he fell for Mata's feint on the free kick and clowned around for the second goal instead of doing anything. 100% the GK should never let that second goal occur. He looked better last season in the games he played.
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Re: Juventus' Champions League Campaign 2018/19

Post by Luca on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:42 pm

Even though our attack is stacked, it let us down today.

I don’t fault Dybala for hitting the crossbar.

I will fault Cuadrado for not even hitting the target from 6-8 yards out. I will fault him for cutting the ball back to pjanic instead of trying to find Dybala or shooting himself because it was legitimately the worst of the three options he had- the fact that he moved the ball away from goal when he was that close sums it up.

1-0 is never safe but like you said, Szczesny didn’t help. Maybe I don’t fault him on the free kick but what on earth was that contact on the 2-1? Atrocious.

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Post by rincon on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:52 pm

Dybala didn't score but was great today. Can't fault him. He did everything right and got unlucky with hitting the post.

Cuadrado, on top of those incidents you mentioned, screwed up moves by just taking way too long to release the ball a few times. Even if I like him, I have to say he has to do better towards the goal. Had we had any of our other forwards, they would have buried the game in his position. Mario, Costa and Bernardeschi would have put us 3-0 had they been in Cuadrado's place.

Szczesny come on. It was a pretty inconsequential game that we could draw with no consequence and the free kick was clever, so I would have given him a pass if the game had ended then. But the second one he just decided to do nothing, never should have occurred.

Perin needs to be tried. Szczesny was better last season when his position couldn't be taken for granted. I'm afraid that since he was promised to be #1 this season then his playing time might be unconditional. Needs to wake up.
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Re: Juventus' Champions League Campaign 2018/19

Post by Warrior on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:53 pm

Couldn't watch this match, by reading your posts it seems we dominated and got screwed in last minutes. Will make an opinion after extended highlights.

I didn't notice Szczesny's poor form this season, of course he isn't Buffon but he made some important saves. That said, it's true we concede more goals than usual. Do you guys think it's time to start Perin in the show hmm
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Post by rincon on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:57 pm

@Warrior wrote:Couldn't watch this match, by reading your posts it seems we dominated and got screwed in last minutes. Will make an opinion after extended highlights.

It was absolute, we should have scored more but finishing let us down. It's a game that made no sense to not win, let alone lose. Then in the last 5 minutes a mix of bad luck, the team assuming the game was over before it actually finished, and Szczesny.
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Post by rincon on Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:09 am

@Warrior wrote:I didn't notice Szczesny's poor form this season, of course he isn't Buffon but he made some important saves. That said, it's true we concede more goals than usual. Do you guys think it's time to start Perin in the show hmm

It's not that he has been terrible before today but he hasn't inspired much confidence, its the minimum. He hasn't been an added value, does the minimum and barely makes saves while we concede more goals. A quick check on Whoscored just now shows he is the GK in Serie A that saves the least amount of shots. Of course that's partly a merit of the team since we dominate more than others, but once it gets to Szczesny then it seems we can only expect the basics.

Perin should be tried more as he looks better, but for the sake of commitment to Szczesny he probably shouldn't be benched after this match. It should probably be done less dramatically. To give him confidence and a chance.
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Post by Luca on Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:28 am

I’d be ok with Perin vs Milan tbh.

We shouldn’t reward the players of this match. I’m good with not seeing Cuadrado for a little while
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Post by rincon on Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:34 am

Mandzukic is back and the Dybala and Ronaldo were good so I imagine those 3 start, Berna and Costa should be back for the bench too.

I'd love to see Perin vs Milan as well but I don't think it will happen. If Higuain is in the match he is bound to cause us problems.
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Post by Warrior on Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:49 am

@rincon wrote:
Perin should be tried more as he looks better, but for the sake of commitment to Szczesny he probably shouldn't be benched after this match. It should probably be done less dramatically. To give him confidence and a chance.



Yes i agree with that

What i want to avoid at all cost is juggling between the two keepers after each bad performance. That was my #1 fear when we signed a second keeper of decent level.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:40 pm

What i like about the team this year: any possession can turn into a scoring chance. The opponent must always work hard and lose energy to get the ball, even when it seems it will go off bounds we are fast enough to get it back in play. Our attacking patterns are numerous and hard to predict. Never take a break and versatility are the keys.

Ronaldo's assist, mamma mia, what a perfect pass !! And Mandzukic seems in the ZONE, happy with his role, they complement each other damn well.

To be fair, i have a good feeling. 2018-2019 will be a great season, and despite some weakness we got a solid team. No more NT interruptions for many months so i can finally embrace it.
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Post by rincon on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:51 pm

^Agree with all that.

Mandzukic is really in the zone. The front 3 were great, Ronaldo is a GOAT and Dybala is beasting.

Cuadrado was weak defensively in a couple of situations but good otherwise.

Cancelo was sharp all the way until the last decision. Anyway great attacking moves for a fullback.

Everyone was pretty great, Valencia was only allowed 1 shot on target and it was a corner. They even played a good game.
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Post by Warrior on Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:03 am

Cuadrado we saw his defensive limits: he got completely shifted by Guedes, took the ball back, then he bring it deep in Valencia's zone. His speed (with the ball) is what make him useful at this position. To me he is more a RM than RB. Can be a good RWB if we play 3 at the back.

Szczesny look solid on that header, great reflex save. With GKs it's a thin line between challenging him to do better and ruin his confidence. I trust Max on that.

A word on Ronaldo: i appreciate him so far. Even as a person, never thought i would say this. Probably because as Juve fan i depend on him and he doesn't disappoint, we're all in the same boat expecting a Champions League title. The eager to succeed is contagious. He takes his role at Juventus seriously which i didn't expect.
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Post by Luca on Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:12 am

Lots of good things going this season:

-Ronaldo: just an unreal impact on our team. I can't say I'm shocked, I knew he would score goals but I definitely underrated the impact he would have on the entirety of the team.

-Mandzukic: the player benefiting most from Ronaldo

-Dybala: slow start but now we're seeing it. He's becoming a more mature, complete player.

-Bentancur: what an improvement from his first season to now, Max is forced due to injury to his son Khedira but he covers a lot of space, presses well, he's a useful player next to Pjanic and I'm glad for it.

-Cancelo: quite simply, he is the Alex Sandro of the right side. Adds a dimension to our attack. He can be a bit foolish defensively and he makes some Cuadrado-esque decisions going forwards at times but he's the real deal, I'm glad we invested here and that it's paying off because some were skeptical.

-Bonucci: masks our midfield deficiencies, he's such a capable passer and leader on the field (despite being quite the cuck outside of it).

-Alex Sandro: resurgence after a down year, glad for it. So much better defensively than he was one he joined Juventus and still every bit as deadly going forward.

Yeah bros, I'm thinking its our year



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Post by Warrior on Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:22 am

1st of group H Cool

possible opponents in round of 16:
Atletico
Tottenham
Liverpool
Schalke
Ajax
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As i said in previous years, if we want to lift the trophy we must be ready to have the toughest possible road. My choice would be Juve vs Ajax tho, not only is it the easiest draw on paper but also a prestigious match-up. Ajax always have some promising youngsters so it would be an opportunity to update my knowledge about them.

Juve vs Spurs could be fun as well.
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