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Post by Casciavit on Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:56 pm

Messi was the best player in the world when it came to domestic league performances. He lead every statistical category and Barca didn't lose a single game he was involved in. He practically lead them to a double when most thought they'd have a bad year due to the sale of Neymar.

If any other player had those circumstances they'd be a potential favourite, while Leo doesn't even make it to the top 3 lmao. He's become a victim of his own success.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:59 pm

That and people judged he had an underwhelming WC, which ultimately is what matters most in a WC year

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:00 pm

MEssi doesnt deserve to be on the list ahead of the 3 players mentioned. They set themselves apart in european competitions unlike Messi, and in the world cup  (except for CR who has still fantastic in CL). Roasting Huesca on a weekly basis is not sufficient to be the best on a given year

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Post by Zees on Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:48 pm

Salah is there as a minority representative to fill the diversity quota, couldn't have another year of Spanish inquisition.

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Post by Thimmy on Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:49 pm

@Zees wrote:Salah is there as a minority representative to fill the diversity quota.


That's not necessary. Messi's got the midget category on lockdown.

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Post by Kebab on Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:21 pm

Messi probably played better than all of them. CR was shit entire season and nominated for the bycicle kick. Modric was good but not great in the liga. But i understand he had great world cup. Salah cant be better than Messi no matter what he does. its ridiculous. Only Modric deserves to be there alongside with Messi who had 3 cups under his belt and golden shoe winner
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Post by Collblanc on Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:49 pm

The Barcelona PES deal is really hurting Messi. FIFA is disgusting.
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Post by sportsczy on Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:54 pm

@Freeza wrote:Griezmann might be the most overrated footballer of this generation.

Unless you watch him play regularly and realize he sacrifices his game to make a collective work. He's all about winning. i didn't realize all the intangible things he does until this last WC.

Not the fastest of starters in a season... he eases in. He was actually just as lethal a scorer in the 2nd half of last season as CR. I think he scored 20 goals from Jan on. Had 13 assists too. Given how Atleti play, it's a damn near miracle that he gets those stats.

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Post by Doc on Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:59 pm

Messi is a victim of his own success and make no mistake, he was really immense in La Liga last year and it wasn't against minnows. He performed good/great against the tougher sides in Spain too.

That being said, what stands out is Barcelona blowing a 3 goal lead to Roma in the 2nd leg where the great man did nothing and his underwhelming World Cup and that's why he won't be a front runner for these individual awards, sadly. Any performance in Spain is unfairly put aside for those two events in what was a very good season for Messi.

Griezmann over Salah? No. As someone who watched Griezmann last season as a fan of his, he only really started to play better when Costa came back in January. Salah was performing consistently all season including in the CL. Sure, Liverpool didn't win anything but they made it so far in either competition (PL and CL) because of Salah's effort.

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Post by Kebab on Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:17 pm

@Doc wrote:Messi is a victim of his own success and make no mistake, he was really immense in La Liga last year and it wasn't against minnows. He performed good/great against the tougher sides in Spain too.

That being said, what stands out is Barcelona blowing a 3 goal lead to Roma in the 2nd leg where the great man did nothing and his underwhelming World Cup and that's why he won't be a front runner for these individual awards, sadly. Any performance in Spain is unfairly put aside for those two events in what was a very good season for Messi.

Griezmann over Salah? No. As someone who watched Griezmann last season as a fan of his, he only really started to play better when Costa came back in January. Salah was performing consistently all season including in the CL. Sure, Liverpool didn't win anything but they made it so far in either competition (PL and CL) because of Salah's effort.
great. doing great in spain is like doing nothing. maybe for messi. if it was Munir who did what messi did he would be in top 3 instead of salah for sure
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Post by terrance511 on Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:25 pm

imagine nominate a mental midget who sulk when his country and team needed him the most.

he can go score 5 every week and still nobody would remember a match by him.

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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:37 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@Freeza wrote:Griezmann might be the most overrated footballer of this generation.

Unless you watch him play regularly and realize he sacrifices his game to make a collective work.  He's all about winning.  i didn't realize all the intangible things he does until this last WC.

Not the fastest of starters in a season... he eases in.  He was actually just as lethal a scorer in the 2nd half of last season as CR.   I think he scored 20 goals from Jan on.  Had 13 assists too.  Given how Atleti play, it's a damn near miracle that he gets those stats.
It's not actually, because the whole team focuses on feeding the forwards and he enjoys hiding behind Costa to get his stats. When Costa was not around and he had to lead the line, he was shit, got kicked out of the CL lol.

As soon as Costa shows up, he enjoys a lot more freedom and the rest actually do that dirty work.

Griezmann is one of football biggest Betas


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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by Kebab on Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Other 2 also flopped when their team needed them the most. CR in la liga and world cup, Salah in CL and world cup. So what is your point trance?
Only one who was flopped a little bit less was Modric. and i hope he wins this award
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:44 pm

Two players from Madrid. Nice. I have thoroughly enjoyed it while it lasted.

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Post by Thimmy on Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:54 pm

If Griezmann was German, like his last name would suggest, then Sports wouldn't defend him as if he was an endangered species hmm

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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:21 pm

Criticising Salah is dumb AF.

He's the main reason they got to a CL final and he broke a PL record which has stood for more than 20 years.

The other two won a CL and got to a WC final in Modric's case so the 3 chosen are fine.

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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by McLewis on Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:39 pm

No Alisson No

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Post by Art Morte on Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:42 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:of course Salah should not be there, it's a bit of a joke he made the list over Griezmann but it's a popularity contest, so...

@Mr Nick09 wrote:while i was thinking about, another way to look at things is the fact that Salah in EPL and Champions, was much stronger as a performer than Griezmann in La liga and Europa league. Even without a trophy (and it's laughable to mention the supercup) Salah was far better.

In the world cup, Salah had no chance to win it with Egypt, while Griezmann did not exactly set the world cup on fire with his performances. He was good but not outstanding.

Is Nick seriously challenging Mole for the troll of the forum or does he not even read his own posts any more? How is anyone supposed to have a convo here when this one melt goes on a dribble like this?
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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:21 pm

i gave two ways to look at it, because as Windkick said, Griezmann won a lot of trophies this year. But if you look at performances, you could come up with a different outcome. I really expected Griezmann to be nominated, no french representation in the year they win the world cup is a bit shocking. But then i gave a reasoning as to why it is not so crazy.

there is no absolute truth here as with many things

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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by futbol on Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:47 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Criticising Salah is dumb AF.

He's the main reason they got to a CL final and he broke a PL record which has stood for more than 20 years.

The other two won a CL and got to a WC final in Modric's case so the 3 chosen are fine.


The main reason Liverpool got to the CL final was an easy draw against Roma (yeah, make all the jokes you want, Roma still are a mediocre team, even if we bottled it against them in 1 game) and Klopp's tactics against Pep.

Other than that Liverpool won nada and finished below Spurs.

Controversial to say now but de Bruyne had a better season than Salah. MVP of the league record point winners and 3rd place in the WC. Liverpool making a CL final after so many years again and Salah being such a surprise performer created a false narrative.

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Post by futbol on Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:51 pm

Also WTF is "Fifa Da Best"? Did GL create this award?

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Post by futbol on Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:04 am

Modric is another false narrative. In May no one remembered a memorable Modric performance from the entire season. Madrid collectively sucked all season in the league, Ronaldo turned it on against PSG and Juventus away. Then opposition gifts carried Madrid to glory in both semis and the final. At no point was there Modric magic. Then Croatia surprisingly reached the WC final in a low quality World Cup, one penalty shootout after another (with Modric cracking under pressure, see his penalties) and in hindsight Madrid's CL victories + Croatia reaching the final = Modric Ballon d'Or.

Insane false narratives being created.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:07 am

@futbol wrote:Also WTF is "Fifa Da Best"? Did GL create this award?
It's the new version of the FIFA POTY. Basically a popularity contest by coaches and NT captains. If we are being honest here, even if the top 80 countries know what they're on about, the bottom 100 countries or so are not really equipped to answer this question any more than a 3rd division coach, and they get the bulk of the votes.

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Post by Doc on Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:39 am

@futbol wrote:Modric is another false narrative. In May no one remembered a memorable Modric performance from the entire season. Madrid collectively sucked all season in the league, Ronaldo turned it on against PSG and Juventus away. Then opposition gifts carried Madrid to glory in both semis and the final. At no point was there Modric magic. Then Croatia surprisingly reached the WC final in a low quality World Cup, one penalty shootout after another (with Modric cracking under pressure, see his penalties) and in hindsight Madrid's CL victories + Croatia reaching the final = Modric Ballon d'Or.

Insane false narratives being created.

You're a false narrative.

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Re: Fifa The Best 2018

Post by danyjr on Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:27 am

Modrić rofl

Would be an insult to football to see this Gecko win the award where Chameleon never won it.

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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:00 am

Would give it to Ramsey if it were up to me tbh

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