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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:22 am

In the WC, there were lots of questions about the stamina of the Russian players. Given what had happened in the last Olympics that Russia hosted, there were questions about same systematic doping in the first WC that they hosted!

Well this week, Denis Cherychev’s father said the Russians injected his son with growth hormones before the tournament. And it is worth noting, that Denis was a borderline starter before tournament, went on to not only start, but was a key player scoring 3 (or maybe it was 4) in 5 games. And now there is an investigation! The Russian defense is it wasn’t growth hormones, it was an injection to speed up his recovery of an injury?

Question should be was Denis the only one given an injection? If this is proven to be another doping scandal, Russia should be completely banned from all Sports!
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Post by Clutch on Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:56 pm

Have a feeling this will be the last time we'll here from Denis's father

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Post by S on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:05 pm

Before this, they need to re-open the Spanish doping case IMO

Bring back Fuentes

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Post by S on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:07 pm

Edit : My bad

A Spanish court already destroyed those blood samples dint they ?:facepalm:
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Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:11 pm

What about Bale? rofl

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Post by Freeza on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:20 pm

@Harmonica wrote:What about Bale? rofl


What about Messi? rofl

Also no nickname given to Bale?
Your incredible brain couldn’t conjure one up?

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:23 pm

@Harmonica wrote:What about Bale? rofl

They tried but they couldn't catch the flying Welshman.

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:26 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:What about Bale? rofl

They tried but they couldn't catch the flying Welshman.
Yeah it's too late for now. I think he became smart and stopped it, could've turned as Realnaldo, instead of getting just minor injuries all the time.

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Post by farfan on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:28 pm

@Harmonica wrote:What about Bale? rofl


What about him? all natty imo.
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Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:29 pm

@farfan wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:What about Bale? rofl


What about him? all natty imo.
You found it. I'm sure there's also somewhere how I predicted that he would be getting injury prone. Very Happy

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:41 pm

Before WC14 break:


One month after:



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Post by Freeza on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:53 pm

Barely any difference in those two photos ffs Laughing

Have you ever been fit in your life?

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:32 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
You found it. I'm sure there's also somewhere how I predicted that he would be getting injury prone. Very Happy


As if, he didn't have a history of injuries prior to his arrival Rolling Eyes Also, you're comparing an image where he's lying/standing still, to one where he's sprinting and tightening his entire body. The added tan helps define his muscles, as well. Just another conspiracy theory for you to latch onto, I suppose Very Happy Helps to distract attention from the little guy who actually used drugs for a prolonged period of time.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:42 pm

Cherishev has been clearing of any allegations and Harmonica has never hit the gym in his life

the only athlete documented to have doped in his youth is Messi taking HGH

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Post by Zagadka on Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:50 pm

Butthurt Spaniard spreading fake news to justify their pathetic showing at the WC....outed as lies in less than 24 hours.

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https://twitter.com/Cheryshev/status/1040244301467463680

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Post by Freeza on Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:03 pm

Yeah agreed.

Who could ever think an honourable nation like Russia would ever engage in state wide doping.

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:10 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Cherishev has been clearing of any allegations and Harmonica has never hit the gym in his life

the only athlete documented to have doped in his youth is Messi taking HGH
I think you should check the definition of doping. Laughing

Also I'm fairly sure I'm superior to you also physically.

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:40 pm

In the late 1980s, recombinant hGH (rhGH) was developed through genetic engineering and has been used with good results in the treatment of patients with hGH deficiency—allowing bone growth and impacting on the patient's final stature. This form of hGH has a sequence identical to the naturally occurring 22 kDa hormone. Its misuse has been suspected in sport because of its anabolic properties. Athletes and bodybuilders claim that hGH increases lean body mass and decreases the fat mass.

The use of hGH in sport today is not only based on its anabolic properties, but also on its effect on carbohydrate and fat metabolism. rhGH has been found in swimmers and also in players taking part in major sports events. International federations and the International Olympic Committee have had hGH on the list of forbidden compounds since 1989, when it became obvious that the development of biotechnology products based on the recombination of DNA made hGH much more easily available on the regular and black markets.

hGH doping is a major challenge in the fight against doping. The effect of exercise on hGH and its short half‐life are still presenting difficulties during doping analysis. To date the most promising method appears to be the direct approach utilising immunoassays.
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Post by Myesyats on Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:59 pm

@Harmonica wrote:Also I'm fairly sure I'm superior to you also physically.

I believe that you set up a gym in your mom's basement where you reside, that is actually very believable
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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:34 pm

@Zagadka wrote:Butthurt Spaniard spreading fake news to justify their pathetic showing at the WC....outed as lies in less than 24 hours.

Cheryshev Proud


Ouch, that’s a bit harsh! As if noone has suspected Russia of doping. Sure Denis has been cleared as the drug has only a short period to be detected. Doesn’t mean Russia is innocent. With Olympics, it took someone with enough nerve to come forward. When state sponsored drugging exists combined with the powers of highest level dismissing or covering everything up it is extremely difficult to prove. Happened years ago with East Germany and recently with Russian Oylmpics.

I’m just surprised there hasn’t been more out cries about this esp. after they were found out with Olympics.

And it wasn’t just the Spain - Russia game that suspicions were raised. Go back and look thru the WC threads. There was lots of foul cries for all of their games.

And Spain didn’t lose because of doping, they clearly lost with their play and tactics (and incompetent coach)!
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Post by sportsczy on Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:41 pm

@Freeza wrote:Yeah agreed.

Who could ever think an honourable nation like Russia would ever engage in state wide doping.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by Kaladin on Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Wouldn’t be surprised if doping is rampant in football, too many times seen players do incredible things when they should be on the cusp of their breath.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:19 pm

Let's be real. Everyone dopes and everyone is protected. Russia definitely doped, probably more than normal, but so did every other nation (probably).

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Post by Myesyats on Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:27 pm

'Your roided up guy beat our roided up guy'........
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Post by FennecFox7 on Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:32 am

@Myesyats wrote:'Your roided up guy beat our roided up guy'........



lol exactly.

You guys are playing the wrong game accusing messi, bale, etc of doping. they ALL DOPE. period.
HGH is an overrated drug and it doesn't increase muscle mass, just strengthens tendons and ligaments
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