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Post by breva on Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:11 am

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Re: Serie overtakes EPL in the Uefa Coeficient, now in second place with La Liga in first place.

Post by Casciavit on Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:03 am

Nobody cares about your annoying pro-Serie A agenda.

PL>>>>>

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Post by Cruijf on Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:21 am

Serie A isn’t the best by any means but it’s at a similar level to PL, and in the last 3-5 years top Serie A teams have been outperforming top PL teams. So this is certainly deserved.

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Re: Serie overtakes EPL in the Uefa Coeficient, now in second place with La Liga in first place.

Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:16 am

It doesn't, and it isn't hmm

https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2019.html

Besides, Italy will probably fall further behind England next season when 14/15 points expire

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Re: Serie overtakes EPL in the Uefa Coeficient, now in second place with La Liga in first place.

Post by Doc on Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:36 am

Have they? Have Serie A teams really been outperforming top PL teams in Europe? In the CL, until Roma last season, only Juventus actually reached beyond the QFs in that specific 3-5 year span (2012-2013 to 2017-2018). Chelsea, City and Pool did it once. Europa, well, it's kinda the same. Napoli and Lazio reached at least the semis while Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester Utd did it.

Serie A teams is doing well in Europe so far this season so I guess it's all good.

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Post by Nishankly on Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:15 pm

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Post by rincon on Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:17 pm

It doesn't matter as much anymore, but be fair to breva, it is real news.

https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/#/yr/2019
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:43 pm

Purely because of that "fraud team" that every other Italian team hates, Juventus. The irony.

Great to see England got the most points last season, our time to rule UEFA will come again, calma.

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Post by Warrior on Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:52 pm

Juve carries the league in Europe and sometimes Roma gives a bit of help. Napoli didn't care about CL last season but they would have done nothing as always.

Milan don't even qualify and Inter need a rules revamp to be part of the competition.

Not sure if those rankings are useful, to me they mean nothing just like the Fifa world ranking. Just a task for statisticians.
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Post by breva on Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:33 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:It doesn't, and it isn't hmm

https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2019.html

Besides, Italy will probably fall further behind England next season when 14/15 points expire


You are posting the rankings before the last round of games in Europe. Italy has now overtaken the EPL in the rankings. Nice try though.

"UEFA released their league rankings today and, due to all four Italian clubs winning their Champions League games this week, and only Manchester City winning from the four Premier League clubs, Italy has eclipsed England.

Juventus and Roma picked up easy victories beating Young Boys and Viktoria Plzen 3-0 and 5-0 respectively. Inter Milan managed to come back from 1-0 down to PSV to win, just two weeks after their comeback victory against Tottenham Hotspur and Napoli managed to beat Liverpool 1-0 thanks to a late goal from Lorenzo Insigne.

Spain are currently far ahead at the top, on 89.283 points; with Italy second on 67.440 points. England rank third with 67.177 points, Germany fourth with 61.784 points and France fifth on 51.998 points."

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/serie-a-overtakes-premier-league-in-uefa-rankings-33502
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Post by breva on Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:35 pm

@Warrior wrote:Juve carries the league in Europe and sometimes Roma gives a bit of help. Napoli didn't care about CL last season but they would have done nothing as always.

Milan don't even qualify and Inter need a rules revamp to be part of the competition.

Not sure if those rankings are useful, to me they mean nothing just like the Fifa world ranking. Just a task for statisticians.


They are more than useful, they are critical, they determine how many teams a league gets in the CL and EL. Sheesh.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:39 pm

Not anymore, now we have 4 spots because it was decided so.
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Post by rincon on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:00 pm

No, the spots are decided by the coefficient. The allotment was just shuffled around. 5th place is where the drop off starts now.
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Re: Serie overtakes EPL in the Uefa Coeficient, now in second place with La Liga in first place.

Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:22 pm

@rincon wrote:It doesn't matter as much anymore, but be fair to breva, it is real news.

https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/#/yr/2019


It's not.
This was actualized on the morning of Thursday, 4th. ("Letzte Aktualisierung: 04.10.2018 08:27 ")
Obviously there were EL games later the day, which are not yet in there.


I linked the up to date table above, here it is. Italy is not longer 2nd.

"Last update: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 22:56:54 CET"

https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2019.html


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Re: Serie overtakes EPL in the Uefa Coeficient, now in second place with La Liga in first place.

Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:23 pm

@breva wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:It doesn't, and it isn't hmm

https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2019.html

Besides, Italy will probably fall further behind England next season when 14/15 points expire


You are posting the rankings before the last round of games in Europe. Italy has now overtaken the EPL in the rankings. Nice try though.

"UEFA released their league rankings today and, due to all four Italian clubs winning their Champions League games this week, and only Manchester City winning from the four Premier League clubs, Italy has eclipsed England.

Juventus and Roma picked up easy victories beating Young Boys and Viktoria Plzen 3-0 and 5-0 respectively. Inter Milan managed to come back from 1-0 down to PSV to win, just two weeks after their comeback victory against Tottenham Hotspur and Napoli managed to beat Liverpool 1-0 thanks to a late goal from Lorenzo Insigne.

Spain are currently far ahead at the top, on 89.283 points; with Italy second on 67.440 points. England rank third with 67.177 points, Germany fourth with 61.784 points and France fifth on 51.998 points."

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/serie-a-overtakes-premier-league-in-uefa-rankings-33502


It's exactly the other way round lmao. You post a table wchich ignores last Thursday's EL results.
Your bias is literally making you blind Laughing

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Post by breva on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:47 pm

Your ignorance and jealousy is blinding you.  The only rankings that count are UEFA's and the most current. Italy has overtaken the EPL. That's just a fact, no sense being silly about it. Stop posting old rankings from an orgainzation that doesn't count with respect to UEFA team assignment.  In fact you better watch out that France doesn't pip you for the fourth spot.

Notice the update date and time, you silly man. Keep digging. LMAO

Last updated: 04/10/2018 08:27

Association club coefficients
Pos Clubs Pts
1
Spain
7/7 89.283
2
Italy
6/7 67.440
3
England
6/7 67.177
4
Germany
7/7 61.784
5
France
6/6 51.998


https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/index.html
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Post by zigra on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:50 pm

I hope we get a new thread once an English team wins some game and the pl is on top again hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:54 pm

@breva wrote:Your ignorance and jealousy is blinding you.  The only rankings that count are UEFA's and the most current. Italy has overtaken the EPL. That's just a fact, no sense being silly about it. Stop posting old rankings from an orgainzation that doesn't count with respect to UEFA team assignment.  In fact you better watch out that France doesn't pip you for the fourth spot.

Notice the update date and time, you silly man. Keep digging. LMAO

Last updated: 04/10/2018 08:27

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Pos Clubs Pts
1
Spain
7/7 89.283
2
Italy
6/7 67.440
3
England
6/7 67.177
4
Germany
7/7 61.784
5
France
6/6 51.998


https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/index.html


Are you serious? Laughing

UEFA doesn't update their website as often as Bert Kassies does (who by the way is not an organization)

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Re: Serie overtakes EPL in the Uefa Coeficient, now in second place with La Liga in first place.

Post by Warrior on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:57 pm

by rincon Today at 1:00 pm
No, the spots are decided by the coefficient. The allotment was just shuffled around. 5th place is where the drop off starts now.


What i meant is, it changes nothing if you are 3rd or 2nd since every top league gets 4 spots. I don't see Serie A dropping below Bundesliga and certainly not Ligue 1. So this ranking won't have an effect until many years, to me it's irrelevant.

Tbh i even doubt Serie A is a better league overall as it seems the worst teams in PL are a level better than our Serie A dross Chievo, Frosinone, Bologna...
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Post by rincon on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:59 pm

@Warrior wrote:by rincon Today at 1:00 pm
No, the spots are decided by the coefficient. The allotment was just shuffled around. 5th place is where the drop off starts now.


What i meant is, it changes nothing if you are 3rd or 2nd since every top league gets 4 spots. I don't see Serie A dropping below Bundesliga and certainly not Ligue 1. So this ranking won't have an effect until many years, to me it's irrelevant.

Tbh i even doubt Serie A is a better league overall as it seems the worst teams in PL are a level better than our Serie A dross Chievo, Frosinone, Bologna...
Yeah, agree.
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Post by breva on Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:09 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@breva wrote:Your ignorance and jealousy is blinding you.  The only rankings that count are UEFA's and the most current. Italy has overtaken the EPL. That's just a fact, no sense being silly about it. Stop posting old rankings from an orgainzation that doesn't count with respect to UEFA team assignment.  In fact you better watch out that France doesn't pip you for the fourth spot.

Notice the update date and time, you silly man. Keep digging. LMAO

Last updated: 04/10/2018 08:27

Association club coefficients
Pos Clubs Pts
1
Spain
7/7 89.283
2
Italy
6/7 67.440
3
England
6/7 67.177
4
Germany
7/7 61.784
5
France
6/6 51.998


https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/index.html


Are you serious? Laughing

UEFA doesn't update their website as often as Bert Kassies does (who by the way is not an organization)


The update date and time is printed clearly on the standings page. You are one silly little man. Grow up.



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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:12 pm

@breva wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@breva wrote:Your ignorance and jealousy is blinding you.  The only rankings that count are UEFA's and the most current. Italy has overtaken the EPL. That's just a fact, no sense being silly about it. Stop posting old rankings from an orgainzation that doesn't count with respect to UEFA team assignment.  In fact you better watch out that France doesn't pip you for the fourth spot.

Notice the update date and time, you silly man. Keep digging. LMAO

Last updated: 04/10/2018 08:27

Association club coefficients
Pos Clubs Pts
1
Spain
7/7 89.283
2
Italy
6/7 67.440
3
England
6/7 67.177
4
Germany
7/7 61.784
5
France
6/6 51.998


https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/index.html


Are you serious? Laughing

UEFA doesn't update their website as often as Bert Kassies does (who by the way is not an organization)


The update date and time is printed clearly on the standings page. You are one silly little man. Grow up.





Are you for real? Do you understand the concept of time and date?

Thursday, 4th October, 8:27 in the morning? You are aware that EL games happened later that day?
Or was Lazio getting smashed by Franfurt too hard to take for your brain?

Once again: the table oon UEFA's website is NOT up to date.
Italy had overtaken England from Wednesday night to Thursday afternoon, but not anymore.

Are you getting this?
Morning? Earlier? Evening? Later?

This is absolutely amazing Laughing

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Post by breva on Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:20 pm

The UEFA rankings are from 10 Oct. 2018. Nearly a week after the ones you posted. You just keep digging, don't you.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:22 pm

@breva wrote:The UEFA rankings are from 10 Oct. 2018. Nearly a week after the ones you posted. You just keep digging, don't you.


Amazing.
We can actually witness your brain not being able to process the most basic of information due to bias

Laughing

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