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Post by guest7 on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:50 pm

*bleep* apologize right now. Said it from day 1 it was never true
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Firenze on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:08 pm

Nah. Benz was, problem is he has gotten old and used to his cuck role for so long, you can't just roll back the clock so fast and became another player again. Doubt he ever can. Bale though..only so much the man can do himself.
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Harmonica on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:13 pm

So without them starting 0-2, subbed in 1-0? Fakenaldo folk really are special kind of folk.


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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by guest7 on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:14 pm

Except Benzema has always been a "perfect fit" for a supportive type player. Very good passing, good dribbling and contributes so much in deeper roles.

It's like calling Messi a sideman when he was false 9 under Pep. He basically sacrificed himself to play deeper for the team and making himself harder to mark/drawing out defenders out of position.

Ronaldo will never be detrimental to your playing style because he has a winning mentality AND he actually became a less selfish player in his later years.
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Varnagel on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:16 pm

Cristiano was trash as well between September to mid-January when he scored 4 LaLiga goals.

Some people's memories are goldfish level

@Firenze wrote:Nah. Benz was, problem is he has gotten old and used to his cuck role for so long, you can't just roll back the clock so fast and became another player again. Doubt he ever can. Bale though..only so much the man can do himself.


Benzema has been one of the very few players who have been decent in a heavily underperforming Real Madrid team under Lopetegui. A coach who's uttershite for Porto as well. Currently the best scorer and just got his first assist that ended Real Madrid's drought after being subbed in when Levantr had a 2-0 lead at Bernabeu today.


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Post by guest7 on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:16 pm

To be honest Benzema has never been the most lethal finisher, he was a beta cuck in his first seasons in Madrid. Considered a flop because he was missing the easiest chances.... Like I said, the supportive role suits him.
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:27 pm

Take it to the Real Madrid section you embarrassing melts

this thread has no value to the public

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:30 pm

People said that about Benz (mostly to justify his lack of goals), but who said that about Bale? When he was fit he often outperformed CR, statwise.

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Post by Mamad on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:32 pm

Benzema and Bale are the last ones to blame for our poor form.

start from defenders, go to midfielders and then point the finger at strikers.

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by guest7 on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:33 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Take it to the Real Madrid section you embarrassing melts

this thread has no value to the public


Alot of neutrals, including football pundits were saying this!
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Varnagel on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:38 pm

@guest7 wrote:To be honest Benzema has never been the most lethal finisher, he was a beta cuck in his first seasons in Madrid. Considered a flop because he was missing the easiest chances.... Like I said, the supportive role suits him.


Benzema has made almost 200 goals + 100 assists despite hardly being an out-and-out striker and acted as a 3rd fiddle behind Bale/Cristiano. Never mind that Benzema is an integral figure for Rela Madrid's most successful CL-era since Di Stefano's days back in 50s/60s. How tf is he a flop? You're right that Benzema was never clinical as the likes of Ruud but it can be said for Cristiano who averaged way many more shots per game than him. Everyone misses chances, not just Benzema

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:People said that about Benz (mostly to justify his lack of goals), but who said that about Bale? When he was fit he often outperformed CR, statwise.

Last season, Bale made 20 goals + 5 assists despite injuries & Zidane benching him for in CL-games.

This season, Bale has made 4 goals + 3 assists in 10 games. One of the very few who's decent so far.

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Post by Lucifer on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:50 pm

@guest7 wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Take it to the Real Madrid section you embarrassing melts

this thread has no value to the public


Alot of neutrals, including football pundits were saying this!

No one said, no one cares. Madrid section that way..
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Freeza on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:53 pm

I don't want another passenger on the anti-Bale wagon tbh.

We're keeping Izzy's seat empty after he left us.

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:57 pm

@Freeza wrote:

We're keeping Izzy's seat empty after he left us.


Like you did with Cristianos Proud

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Freeza on Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:01 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Freeza wrote:

We're keeping Izzy's seat empty after he left us.


Like you did with Cristianos Proud


I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Doc on Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:59 pm

I've honestly never heard anyone said or even read Bale was being kept back by Cristiano. Also, Benzema already confirmed, like 3 seasons ago, that he is nothing without Ronaldo so no sense beating a dead horse.

I too have no idea what Hans is trying to say to Freeza lol.

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Thimmy on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:05 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Freeza wrote:

We're keeping Izzy's seat empty after he left us.


Like you did with Cristianos Proud


I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here


We didn't buy a replacement for Cristiano. I thought it was a witty comment hmm
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by S on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:08 pm

@Thimmy wrote:
@Freeza wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:


Like you did with Cristianos Proud


I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here


We didn't buy a replacement for Cristiano. I thought it was a witty comment hmm


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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Freeza on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:08 pm

@Thimmy wrote:
@Freeza wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:


Like you did with Cristianos Proud


I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here


We didn't buy a replacement for Cristiano. I thought it was a witty comment hmm
@Thimmy wrote:
@Freeza wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:


Like you did with Cristianos Proud


I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here


We didn't buy a replacement for Cristiano. I thought it was a witty comment hmm


Now I get it.

English is terrible when distinguishing between you in singular and plural etc.

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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Thimmy on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:11 pm

@Freeza wrote:
Pantless_Hans wrote:
Like you did with Cristianos Proud


Now I get it.

English is terrible when distinguishing between you in singular and plural etc.


Yeah, it's a minor detail, but it took me an extra second to realize what he meant because of it Laughing
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Post by RealGunner on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:18 pm

Ronaldo's presence on the pitch was as great of a presence as Ultra instinct Goku. The fear he had on other la liga and european teams is gone now. The way he lifted his teammates is gone now. It's easy to play shit and then just look at KOMMANDER who would rescue the match. But when that presence is gone. There is nothing you can do.

but despite that, it doesn't explain how this team has so many holes all over the pitch. Feels like this was supposed to be a transitional season but nothing was done to make one. Project Isco is finished. Can't believe I rated him once. He is 26 but still no one knows what he is supposed to be doing. Can't stand players who are halfway being midfielders and forwards. Should have sold him. Modric is too tired now. Ceballos and Asensio are 2 good games in 10 players. But they are young so it's normal.

madrid should have gone after an elite CM or two and a striker. Ramsey and Mitrovic would transform this team.
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Re: Everyone who said Bale and Benzema were held back a lot by formations and playing styles designed to get the best out of Cristiano

Post by Freeza on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:23 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Ronaldo's presence on the pitch was as great of a presence as Ultra instinct Goku. The fear he had on other la liga and european teams is gone now. The way he lifted his teammates is gone now. It's easy to play shit and then just look at KOMMANDER who would rescue the match. But when that presence is gone. There is nothing you can do.

but despite that, it doesn't explain how this team has so many holes all over the pitch. Feels like this was supposed to be a transitional season but nothing was done to make one. Project Isco is finished. Can't believe I rated him once. He is 26 but still no one knows what he is supposed to be doing. Can't stand players who are halfway being midfielders and forwards. Should have sold him. Modric is too tired now. Ceballos and Asensio are 2 good games in 10 players. But they are young so it's normal.

madrid should have gone after an elite CM or two and a striker. Ramsey and Mitrovic would transform this team.


Isco just came from back from a burst appendix. Something that almost killed me last decade. I'd give him a pass, as he was by far our best player before that.

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Post by Thimmy on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:26 pm

Simply keeping Kovacic might have lessened the burdened on Modric, who's looked tired and uninspired on many occasions. I would've preferred more established signings, but keeping one is better than losing one. Also, Real Madrid don't seem to do "established" anymore hmm
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Post by RealGunner on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:26 pm

Alright i'll allow it

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Post by Doc on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:35 pm

Mitrovic and Ramsey are too old anyway. We only go for under age players it seems.

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