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Post by Robespierre on Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:11 pm

there was even foul by chiesa on d'ambrosio

unacceptable to give this pen through var, unacceptable

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Post by Kaladin on Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:21 pm

There was motion to block it with the arm in the case of Dambrosio, it was a legitimate call.

Also the foul on Simeone in the first half?

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Post by Kaladin on Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:34 pm




Unreal, act like your age @Spalletti

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Post by Robespierre on Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:41 pm

@Kaladin wrote:There was motion to block it with the arm in the case of Dambrosio, it was a legitimate call.

Also the foul on Simeone in the first half?


if you aren't able to be objective after the biggest robbery of last 10 years (because yes , there is var now ) , ok I log out
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Post by Kaladin on Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:44 pm



He positions his arms in such a way that in case it missed his chest, it would be blocked. It then hits his underarm, any fullback would put his arms behind him so as to not risk it.

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Post by Vlad the Impaler on Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:04 pm

Even if the ball slightly touched the arm, which I'm not sure it happened, I would never give a penalty there. I don't think the ball was stopped by the arm though. I believe it was the chest.

I've seen many situations with the ball touching hands in the box and the refs let the game on. In this case it should've been the same because even if supposedly the ball really touches the arm, its influence in the dynamic is so little that it doesn't even matter.

And in a very very close call like this one, you usually don't give a penalty if it's min 97. Let's not be delusional.
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Post by adun101 on Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:51 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Kaladin wrote:VAR, for absolute fucks sake, Inter has to be the most team beneffited from VAR, not even kidding, twice this match already.

No wonder fucking Robes likes it so much *bleep*


VAR is a scam mate.


VAR is not a scam, but it's overused. Its purpose is to overturn obvious mistakes and that's how it was used at the WC and at the beginning of the season, but people complained and now they're using it to referee after the play. There was no clear evidence that it wasn't a handball at the end, therefore they shouldn't have even called the ref to take a look at it. Same with Real- Ajax.
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Post by adun101 on Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:55 pm

@Vlad the Impaler wrote:Even if the ball slightly touched the arm, which I'm not sure it happened, I would never give a penalty there. I don't think the ball was stopped by the arm though. I believe it was the chest.

I've seen many situations with the ball touching hands in the box and the refs let the game on. In this case it should've been the same because even if supposedly the ball really touches the arm, its influence in the dynamic is so little that it doesn't even matter.

And in a very very close call like this one, you usually don't give a penalty if it's min 97. Let's not be delusional.


Well, that's subjective and refereeing needs to be as objective as possible. He tried to play it with his chest, it rolled off onto his arm, that's a handball. Intention is irrelevant. Like I said in other cases (Benatia, Ca), if you can't make a play on the ball without it touching your arm, then don't do it, incompetence can't be an excuse.
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:30 am

@adun101 wrote: Well, that's subjective and refereeing needs to be as objective as possible. He tried to play it with his chest, it rolled off onto his arm, that's a handball. Intention is irrelevant.


Absolutely not. It didn't happen so.



About the rest
Problem is not VAR , but always refs.

VAR can help to delete mistaken decisions, but if refs still make mistakes even though they can verify it .. it becomes useless

for the rest, I'm shocked to read posts by Kaladin above

I understand hate towards Inter and the obsession to come    again in CL after many years, but that sounds as ridicolous.

Inter was incredibly robbed today, and I have to listen what ?

Pen given to Inter is correct, goal disallowed is totally correct, pen given to Fiorentina is totally invented.
One of worst things I've ever seen, considering you have VAR and ref watched it on monitor.

D'Ambrosio touched ball with his chest, and even Chiesa fouled on him before it, and Abisso still gave after VAR review?

Why ppl can't be unbiased even though they can be satisfy for a result ? Laughing


Need to take break aftter this though ,stop,  bye
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Post by adun101 on Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:09 am

@Robespierre wrote:
@adun101 wrote: Well, that's subjective and refereeing needs to be as objective as possible. He tried to play it with his chest, it rolled off onto his arm, that's a handball. Intention is irrelevant.


Absolutely not. It didn't happen so.


There was no clear image showing that the ball didn't hit his arm. But it did hit his chest first and, from what I gathered, the rule is that, if it first hits another body part, then it's not a handball. Like I said with Benatia, it's a stupid rule, but it's the rule. Abisso may have interpreted the arm position as intentional, he didn't see any evidence to contradict him or to show that it didn't hit the arm, so he stayed with his initial call.

Anyway, Spalletti is a douche, he continued the TV clown show that Wanda started last week. He yelled at Caressa and called them "fans" because they were trying to explain Abisso's decision, even if they were disagreeing with it.
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Post by Kaladin on Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:57 pm

We are playing terribly, easily could've conceded the first half. Piatek looks absolutely tired, Gattuso needed to alternate everyone, Castillejo not starting is a big loss. Also, Suso is going into that second half of the season slumber, like when Balotelli joined and SES was dormant for the remainder of the year, same thing with Piatek and Suso.

He has a 40m release clause, who's up for it?

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Post by Kaladin on Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:07 pm

I'm eager to hear whAT @Cas think of Bakayoko, would you keep him?
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Post by Warrior on Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:25 pm

What a boring match ffs

Lazio definitely lost its grinta, now their real level is showing up. I don't recognize SERGEJ this season, the few matches i've seen lately he's been decent at best. Lotito ruined his morale and it shows on his performance.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:40 pm

Ciro Immobidone
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Post by Robespierre on Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:14 am

Inter have received the most serious mistake since VAR is , a CLEAR chest converted in a handball despite ref has even watched this on screen (and 4 /6 cameras said to him it was chest, just 2 doubts, no handball) , it was even on 100' minute and I have read here (but just here ) Inter would have cheated something or it could be pen Laughing
tears in my eyes

Day 3- Still I haven't accepted this mistake and I won't do it if we don't go in CL

At least I hope Fiorentina will get bankrupted as in 2001 a day though
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Post by rincon on Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:42 am

Don't know about the most serious mistake, in that penalty there can be some doubt. We were punished vs Genoa by a penalty given for a clear offside play.
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Post by Kaladin on Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:07 am


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