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Post by Mamad on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:14 pm

Lucas just missed 3 one on ones in 10 minutes :facepalm:

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Post by Mamad on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:15 pm

And Asensio's final ball is still awful.

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Post by Mamad on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:17 pm

Vini is way better than Lucas. how on earth Lope didn't play him when we clearly needed some speed in final third.

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Post by Zees on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:22 pm

Lucas' finishing is just Laughing
Vini outperforming our first team players, should've had 3 assists by now.
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:36 pm

I’m driving home right now. What’s the score? If we can’t beat this team, then I don’t know who we can beat. Should be a good opportunity to boost morale.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:39 pm

We're leading 2-0 at the break, Thimmy. I couldn't watch so maybe one of the guys here can fill you in about our performance.

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:42 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:We're leading 2-0 at the break, Thimmy. I couldn't watch so maybe one of the guys here can fill you in about our performance.


Thanks, DoC. It’s alright, I’ll be home in 10min to see out the rest of the match Smile
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Post by Freeza on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:45 pm

This pitch looks like a WWI battlefield

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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:24 pm

Vini or Odri MOTM. These kids are a breath of fresh air. If they'd played the clasico they would've faired better than the starters
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:27 pm

@Freeza wrote:This pitch looks like a WWI battlefield


Our Castilla team plays on pitches like this all the time. No one seems to maintain them.
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Post by The Madrid One on Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:05 pm

For being 18, Vinicius is doing alright. Does he seem to have enough pace to you guys?

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Post by Mamad on Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:24 pm

Yeah he is fast. unlucky he didn't get a goal. was our most dangerous player. created many chances.

He is still raw and needs playing time. not in castilla. in the first team. he has the talent.

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Post by titosantill on Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:31 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Vini or Odri MOTM. These kids are a breath of fresh air. If they'd played the clasico they would've faired better than the starters


they played well, but lets not forget who we were playing against. let's keep things in context
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Post by Freeza on Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:52 pm

@titosantill wrote:
@halamadrid2 wrote:Vini or Odri MOTM. These kids are a breath of fresh air. If they'd played the clasico they would've faired better than the starters


they played well, but lets not forget who we were playing against. let's keep things in context


Well he impressed and then we have guys like Vazquez who get regular playing time who looked levels below the opponent

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:05 am

My gut is telling me guys like Vinicius, Odri, Regui, and Llorente have no chance of getting substantial minutes when a serious game comes along, but I really hope I am wrong.

Vinicius is so good. I'm obviously getting way ahead of myself, and this is against a slop CDR team, but the guy looks like 18 y/o Neymar.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:27 am

18/ year Neymar...uh chill bro :p

neymar was a monster of another kind at that age already.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:23 am

If Vinicius is as good as some of you claim him to be then he'll have no problem breaking into the first team and dominating there.

With Solari as head coach, he'll definitely get more playing time with the big boys. So let's hope he makes the best out of this opportunity and convinces even the most skeptics that he's actually as good as the hype surrounding him.

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Post by Freeza on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:38 am

I don't think he'll get any legit play time over our best veteran, Lucas Vazquez

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:49 am

That could change with Solari though. He worked with him in Castilla so he might be more generous with him than Lopetegui.

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Post by Freeza on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:50 am

We thought Lopetegui would play the young players. He resorted to the same stuff also.

Rather play the young guys and lose than play these half assed older players who don't give a shit.

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 am

I think I have a realistic outlook on what Ødegaard is capable of, but I honestly believe he'd offer more than what Asensio is offering currently. He's still being forced to play on the wings, as opposed to AM, but his productivity is better and his work rate is far superior. Last match for Vitesse:



Either way, we definitely need to give Asensio some competition. Perhaps this is a good opportunity to ease Vinicius into the first team? It's better than using Isco or one of our other midfielders as a makeshift, backup LW. Hell, even Asensio is a damn midfielder. He doesn't have the qualities to play on the left wing on a consistent basis. Even if we're not chasing Hazard, surely we can bring in a more reasonable backup for competition's sake? That's, of course, if Vinicius is out of the question.
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Post by Mamad on Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm

Yeah the opponent was weak but other players didn't play as good. and Lucas sucked.

We need more movement in final third. we need someone to keep defenders busy.

instead of giving time to Lucas who will not get better than this we should give time to our talented 18 year old.


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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:07 pm

@Thimmy wrote:I think I have a realistic outlook on what Ødegaard is capable of, but I honestly believe he'd offer more than what Asensio is offering currently. He's still being forced to play on the wings, as opposed to AM, but his productivity is better and his work rate is far superior. Last match for Vitesse:



Either way, we definitely need to give Asensio some competition. Perhaps this is a good opportunity to ease Vinicius into the first team? It's better than using Isco or one of our other midfielders as a makeshift, backup LW. Hell, even Asensio is a damn midfielder. He doesn't have the qualities to play on the left wing on a consistent basis. Even if we're not chasing Hazard, surely we can bring in a more reasonable backup for competition's sake? That's, of course, if Vinicius is out of the question.


Asensio is in the worst form of his life, it's not hard to offer more than that. But we have all seen what Asensio can do. It's only fair that we see if a coaching change fixes his form, because this season is night and day differences from last season.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:13 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:18/ year Neymar...uh chill bro :p

neymar was a monster of another kind at that age already.


Lol, I know, hence the getting ahead of myself. BUT Vinicius is looking a beast of himself too. And one thing I think people are forgetting is that Neymar waited until he was 21 to move to Europe. He was known at 18, but just as it was hard to judge what Vincius was doing in Brazil, it was hard to judge what Neymar was doing in Brazil until about age 20 when he really really started blowing up. So the kid has time and he has all the tools to be a top player technique, power, pace, composure.. We will see if the decision making catches up, but that is something that comes with experience and coaching.
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Post by Thimmy on Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:17 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:
@Thimmy wrote:I think I have a realistic outlook on what Ødegaard is capable of, but I honestly believe he'd offer more than what Asensio is offering currently. He's still being forced to play on the wings, as opposed to AM, but his productivity is better and his work rate is far superior. Last match for Vitesse:

Either way, we definitely need to give Asensio some competition. Perhaps this is a good opportunity to ease Vinicius into the first team? It's better than using Isco or one of our other midfielders as a makeshift, backup LW. Hell, even Asensio is a damn midfielder. He doesn't have the qualities to play on the left wing on a consistent basis. Even if we're not chasing Hazard, surely we can bring in a more reasonable backup for competition's sake? That's, of course, if Vinicius is out of the question.


Asensio is in the worst form of his life, it's not hard to offer more than that. But we have all seen what Asensio can do. It's only fair that we see if a coaching change fixes his form, because this season is night and day differences from last season.


Sure, but I still think he's in a bit too much of a safe position right now, and that's never helped anyone improve. As much as some people like to think that Benzema was world class up until just recently, he went through extended periods of poor form after Higuaín left the club - and I don't think he looked truly world class until that one season under Ancelotii. Asensio doesn't look like a natural winger, to me, but that's where he's playing at the moment, so it can't hurt to keep him on his toes. We do need a backup winger, anyway.
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