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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by Freeza on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:29 pm

@Vlad the Impaler wrote:Hey y'all! What about Leave No Trace? Should've got at least a nomination.


No money to campaign. Doubt anyone saw it.

It costs money to get an Oscar.

Netflix spent $30m on their Oscar campaign for Roma alone.

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Post by Vlad the Impaler on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:38 pm

It has 25k votes on IMDb. Half the number Roma has. I know there's two months between the premieres. It's a big difference, but it's not a huge one. But, yes, Roma already feels like a brand itself, while the other one is lying in the unknown unfortunately. I'm sick of these awards anyway.
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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by Freeza on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:50 pm

@Vlad the Impaler wrote:It has 25k votes on IMDb. Half the number Roma has. I know there's two months between the premieres. It's a big difference, but it's not a huge one. But, yes, Roma already feels like a brand itself, while the other one is lying in the unknown unfortunately. I'm sick of these awards anyway.


IMDb voting is mainly used by young people who pirate movies. I wouldn't really look at that.

Letterboxd has 70k watched for Roma and 23k for Leave no trace. It's a big difference from a comparable audience, that reflect the taste of people voting for awards.

Awards campaigns are too expensive for a lot movies, since they cost millions. Indie movies don't have enough money to even warrant one in many cases. I think a movie like Eighth Grade could've made a push with enough money behind it. But awards campaigns require so much PR, posters, commercials, sending out screeners to thousands upon thousands of members in the industries

It's mainly due to money I'd say. But Roma isn't the best example. I'd say Green Book and Bohemian Rhapsody are examples of huge awards compaigns that somehow worked. Not well-reviewed movies who somehow made the cut because they're talked about constantly.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by Vlad the Impaler on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:15 pm

I’m also young and I pirate movies, lol. I wouldn’t say IMDb voting is something to completely avoid taking into consideration. I know we weren’t discussing this, but I have to say that user ratings don’t matter at all for me. Vote count is something else tho. I only look at the metascore and the ratings given by the members of a private community of movie lovers that I am a part of. But I get what you’re saying.

I guess you’re right with the campaigns. Never really thought about it in depth, although I was aware that without money you’re nothing when it comes to winning the gold.
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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:16 am

Can't believe black panther was nominated for the oscar. Movie was so bad I couldn't even finish it. But maybe I got too old for superhero films, I have no interest in watching infinity war or spiderman either.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by M99 on Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:23 am

This is what happens when you shoot down Most Popular Film category. This is the worst list of nominees I ever saw.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by Blue on Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:47 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Can't believe black panther was nominated for the oscar. Movie was so bad I couldn't even finish it. But maybe I got too old for superhero films, I have no interest in watching infinity war or spiderman either.


They are fun and entertaining movies but that is about it, I may watch it but it is not a must watch movies. The Dark Knight is the only complete package from that genera.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by RealGunner on Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:35 pm

@Blue wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Can't believe black panther was nominated for the oscar. Movie was so bad I couldn't even finish it. But maybe I got too old for superhero films, I have no interest in watching infinity war or spiderman either.


They are fun and entertaining movies but that is about it, I may watch it but it is not a must watch movies. The Dark Knight is the only complete package from that genera.


And Watchmen

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by CBarca on Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:49 pm

No Eighth Grade is really sad.

I haven't seen most of those movies and frankly have little interest in most of them. I'll probably check out Roma. I'm looking forward to seeing First Man but I don't think that made it. I'd watch Vice. The Favourite looks good too. That's probably it.

So out of the best pic noms, I'm only interested in Favourite, Vice, Roma Laughing

What a bad year. I've been out of it with respect to movies this year. I just haven't seen any that interest me, other than Eighth Grade which was fantastic.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by Freeza on Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:52 pm

@M99 wrote:This is what happens when you shoot down Most Popular Film category. This is the worst list of nominees I ever saw.


Yeah because comparable stuff has never been nominated Rolling Eyes

I think this year is bad. 2012 is worse overall though. Only think the bottom two are terrible.

Doesn’t change that Bohemian Rhapsody is the worst movie ever nominated and Green Book is the most time deaf.

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Also this deal with Superhero movies are just mindless fun arguments are weird. Why complain about the academy members reflecting actual taste now?

If anything it just makes the category better since we have fewer of the shit mindless biopics that are nominated every year.

Give me one good reason Black Panther is less artistic and original than a movie like Imitation Game or Theory of Everything. Those movies are so generic and without any artistic flair.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

Post by CBarca on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:41 pm

Yeah I put Theory of Everything and Imitation game on the same level as most superhero movies. They're both of the same ilk. They're generic, they're not daring, they're just movies churned out for money and academy recognition. The King's Speech, my god :facepalm:

I'm tiring of them, to be honest. Even well done ones like Lincoln are hardly that exciting, and I love Lincoln (the man) and DDL.

The overall real point is that they're both shite by and large and we should be looking for better.

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