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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:19 pm

@Myesyats wrote:Yeah sure lol

Trump never lied about what his intentions were and people still supported him. You get what you deserve, dumb nuts.

Democracy is a very flawed system.
Uh, Trump lies all the time. What are you on about.

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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:00 pm

@The Madrid One wrote:Right, keep analyzing whether Tarzan or The Hunch back of nostradamus had a better soundtracks.

These will be our world leaders at this rate

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The good thing about pussy is that when you are getting some, you start to worry exponentially less about what other women do with theirs. You live and let live. As the great American philosopher Drake says.....YOLO.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:54 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Myesyats wrote:Yeah sure lol

Trump never lied about what his intentions were and people still supported him. You get what you deserve, dumb nuts.

Democracy is a very flawed system.
Uh, Trump lies all the time. What are you on about.


His literal campaign promise was to ban Muslims so he was openly racist from the beginning. At no point there was any doubt that he's a piece of shit. He never had anything to say that was worth listening to. But I guess it was enough for the average Joe.

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@Myesyats wrote:Yeah sure lol

Trump never lied about what his intentions were and people still supported him. You get what you deserve, dumb nuts.

Democracy is a very flawed system.


How is democracy a flawed system when, if we had a true democracy, he would have lost?

Hillary literally got 3 million more votes than him.

A system where a disgusting shitbag who can't finish a thought or possibly sympathize with the regular American since he's been rich all his life and living in a skyscraper can become president is not flawed? He should be nowhere near any governing office in any country.

He lost the popular vote but he still got over 60 million votes right? The system is flawed mostly because majority of people are stupid but thats not the only downside.

I think I said this in the Trump thread a while back: "Why do majority of people decide who should run the country if they have no idea how to run one?"

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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:18 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Myesyats wrote:Yeah sure lol

Trump never lied about what his intentions were and people still supported him. You get what you deserve, dumb nuts.

Democracy is a very flawed system.
Uh, Trump lies all the time. What are you on about.


His literal campaign promise was to ban Muslims so he was openly racist from the beginning. At no point there was any doubt that he's a piece of shit. He never had anything to say that was worth listening to. But I guess it was enough for the average Joe.

@Young Kaz wrote:
@Myesyats wrote:Yeah sure lol

Trump never lied about what his intentions were and people still supported him. You get what you deserve, dumb nuts.

Democracy is a very flawed system.


How is democracy a flawed system when, if we had a true democracy, he would have lost?

Hillary literally got 3 million more votes than him.

A system where a disgusting shitbag who can't finish a thought or possibly sympathize with the regular American since he's been rich all his life and living in a skyscraper can become president is not flawed? He should be nowhere near any governing office in any country.

He lost the popular vote but he still got over 60 million votes right? The system is flawed mostly because majority of people are stupid but thats not the only downside.

I think I said this in the Trump thread a while back: "Why do majority of people decide who should run the country if they have no idea how to run one?"


The same reason the majority of Oncologists have never had cancer but decide how to tackle the disease?

To say somebody should do something, before making a decision on it, would render the world useless in most things because very people experience a significant number of things to a degree to use it to form the basis of a position.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:22 pm

But Oncologists have been educated on the matter for a major part of their life.

Have you ever been educated on how to vote? I perceive voting as a skill that needs to be earned, same as performing a surgery. To different extents obviously, but still.

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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:15 pm

@Myesyats wrote:But Oncologists have been educated on the matter for a major part of their life.

Have you ever been educated on how to vote? I perceive voting as a skill that needs to be earned, same as performing a surgery. To different extents obviously, but still.


The government takes money, out of my pocket, fom the moment you get a job to the day you die. That is the education that gives you a voice.

If they want to start cutting off the vote for people, then they need to keep their hands out of those people pockets.
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Post by The Madrid One on Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:28 pm

@Young Kaz wrote:
Yeah you need to get laid my dude.

The good thing about pussy is that when you are getting some, you start to worry exponentially less about what other women do with theirs. You live and let live. As the great American philosopher Drake says.....YOLO.
Believe me, i'm fighting for a world where pu$$y can solve the world's problems; we don't live in that world anymore, oh no no no.

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Post by Myesyats on Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:32 pm

@Young Kaz wrote:
@Myesyats wrote:But Oncologists have been educated on the matter for a major part of their life.

Have you ever been educated on how to vote? I perceive voting as a skill that needs to be earned, same as performing a surgery. To different extents obviously, but still.


The government takes money, out of my pocket, fom the moment you get a job to the day you die. That is the education that gives you a voice.

If they want to start cutting off the vote for people, then they need to keep their hands out of those people pockets.

I agree. But that, even more so, strengthens my point that democracy (democratic capitalism in this case, I guess) is very flawed.

Most ordinary people dont have the life experience of running a business, let alone a country.

I draw inspiration from Socrates' philosophy. Very Happy

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Post by Young Kaz on Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 am

@The Madrid One wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:
Yeah you need to get laid my dude.

The good thing about pussy is that when you are getting some, you start to worry exponentially less about what other women do with theirs. You live and let live. As the great American philosopher Drake says.....YOLO.
Believe me, i'm fighting for a world where pu$$y can solve the world's problems; we don't live in that world anymore, oh no no no.


Work and pussy solves most issues.

@Myesyats wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:
@Myesyats wrote:But Oncologists have been educated on the matter for a major part of their life.

Have you ever been educated on how to vote? I perceive voting as a skill that needs to be earned, same as performing a surgery. To different extents obviously, but still.


The government takes money, out of my pocket, fom the moment you get a job to the day you die. That is the education that gives you a voice.

If they want to start cutting off the vote for people, then they need to keep their hands out of those people pockets.

I agree. But that, even more so, strengthens my point that democracy (democratic capitalism in this case, I guess) is very flawed.

Most ordinary people dont have the life experience of running a business, let alone a country.

I draw inspiration from Socrates' philosophy. Very Happy


Democracy is flawed, but its probably the best we can do. People have to feel they have some say in their society to remain believers in it.
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:57 am

I find this really funny. Sweden Proud In other news, Sweden have now officially banned both inside and outside smoking in public places, like restaurants. What will they do next? hmm


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Post by elitedam on Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:42 am

@Thimmy wrote:In other news, Sweden have now officially banned both inside and outside smoking in public places, like restaurants.


Are you against that?
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:00 am

@elitedam wrote:
@Thimmy wrote:In other news, Sweden have now officially banned both inside and outside smoking in public places, like restaurants.


Are you against that?


Against illegalizing public smoking? I certainly am. I'm not a smoker, and I prefer not to be around people who smoke, but come on, man - you can't start policing people's behaviour to this extent. It's already illegal to smoke inside of public places, and I think that's fair. The outside is a different matter. I really hope we don't adopt this law. I see it as one step further in taking away people's freedom, and I don't want us to become as redundantly progressive as Sweden are increasingly becoming. You can avoid smokers just fine by steering away from the smoking areas outside. Needless to say, I also don't think boys should be forced to sit down when they're urinating :facepalm:

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:07 am

I actually think this is a good thing. The smoke is harmful for people passing by even outside.

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:24 am

@Myesyats wrote:I actually think this is a good thing. The smoke is harmful for people passing by even outside.


I agree that it's harmful. Alcohol is harmful, too. Internet porn has been discussed in the media as one of the most underrated, psychologically detrimental things of the modern times, as it desensitizes people to actual sex, over time. Car exhaust, people being loud, people being insensitive to more sensitive people. It can be argued that certain sports are harmful, as well. Negative opinions can be harmful, and you wouldn't believe how many times I've heard someone suggest that certain types of attire are harmful, or "encourages rape". I kid you not. It's in dictator-lead countries and countries with religion-based laws where you'll see laws like these blossom to their utmost potential. I really insist that people should tolerate some of these things without resorting to law enforcement.

I, for one, don't want to open up the can of worms that is policing how people behave. If you want to stop people from smoking, or doing something that can be considered mildly harmful or annoying, the best way to go about doing so is to convince them from a young age that they shouldn't do it - not take away their right to do so. Drugs and physical violence are illegal for a good reason, but a line should definitely be drawn between what's sensibly tolerable behaviour, and what's not.

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Post by elitedam on Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:39 am

I guess it depends on how restrictive it is. From the articles I've seen, they mention places like playgrounds, train station platforms, and the outside section of restaurants. That seems reasonable. Nobody should have to breathe in second-hand smoke.
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am

@elitedam wrote:I guess it depends on how restrictive it is. From the articles I've seen, they mention places like playgrounds, train station platforms, and the outside section of restaurants. That seems reasonable. Nobody should have to breathe in second-hand smoke.


Playgrounds is definitely fair, but other than that, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:50 am

I normally agree with you 99% of the time but my stance on smoking is very cemented already. There are places in my city where there's designated smoking areas but you still have to walk within 2-3 metres of the area because theres no other way around so you are basically forced to enter a cloud of cig smoke if you want to enter or exit.

All that gender related stuff I'm very on the fence or disagree with completely but smoking is actually harmful so it's more clear-cut of a situation imo.

Agree with elite, the places mentioned are very reasonable.

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:32 pm

That sounds really awful, and substantially more intruding than the public smoking environment I’m used to. I don’t know the official stats, but I’m guessing relatively few people in Sweden and Norway smoke, compared to in other countries.

A lot of people here use snus as an alternative to smoking(almost 1/3 of Swedish men, a couple of years back), and I’ve extremely rarely felt so bothered by someone else smoking, that I felt that I couldn’t easily avoid it. That’s an experience I associate with holidays abroad.

Therefore, I think Sweden’s suggestion to ban public smoking is really puzzling, unless something would suggest a real, public safety hazard, like what you’re describing sounds like. Then again, I find a lot of their progressive laws puzzling, and they tend to enforce them where it’s not needed.

They have such positive statistics in many facets of their society, and yet they seem more than willing to destabilize that by striving for some pretentious ideals. Honestly, though, I would have a problem with having to go out of my way to avoid smokers. I’ve probably had that problem two or three times in both Sweden and Norway, and those smokers were just outright disrespectful.

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Post by futbol on Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:11 am

Smoking is disgusting and should be taxed even more, make a package 20 Euros or something. A few weeks ago I was standing in a line to rent a roawing boat, line was very long, like 30 people waiting. Guy infront of me suddenly lights up a cigarette. Technically he was "outside".

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Post by Freeza on Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:25 am

Smoking in restaurant areas is fucking disgusting and disrespectful. Never liked it and I find weird that people actually smoked when other people ate before the indoor smoking bans. No bans outside in restaurants means you can’t sit outside.

Also comparing it to alcohol isn’t a good argument. Alcohol should also be banned if people kept spraying it in other customers’ heads

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:32 am

I hate smoking with a passion, and always have. But even I think you should be allowed to smoke in open areas or in the privacy of your own home (as long as no kids are around).

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Post by The Madrid One on Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:18 am

Smoking is for the birds. Illegalize it.

Btw, Megan Rapinoe was very eloquent in her message to Trumpet on CNN, I like her.

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:01 am

@Freeza wrote:Smoking in restaurant areas is fucking disgusting and disrespectful. Never liked it and I find weird that people actually smoked when other people ate before the indoor smoking bans. No bans outside in restaurants means you can’t sit outside.

Also comparing it to alcohol isn’t a good argument. Alcohol should also be banned if people kept spraying it in other customers’ heads


Well, people who get drunk in public do far more harm to others than people who smoke. I dislike passive smoking as much as anyone, but I don't think outside smoking is such a big issue in Sweden that it would warrant a ban in public areas. I've been to all of the largest cities in Sweden, and it's a non issue compared to the outside smoking environment in pretty much any other country I've been to. Why don't they just ban smoking altogether? I suppose they have the balls to upset smokers, but not the balls to upset the tobacco manufacturing bigwigs.

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Post by Young Kaz on Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:18 am

Smoking obviously sucks, but has there ever been any conclusive evidence of a link between secondhand smoke and lung cancer?

If it was a significant risk Japan's birthrate would be decreasing at an even faster rate because until very recently many were born with a cig in their mouth, and it stayed there until they died. Open and closed spaces. My grandpas girlfriend does a pack a day. Want her to stop, but what can you tell an 83 year old woman who has done it since the 50's, and whose parents both did it and who both lived until their 90's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I think smoking has become the boogeyman for many other bad life choices, and perhaps suspicious cheap ingredients some cigarette companies put into their product.
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Post by Thimmy on Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:43 pm

The next agent 007? hmm

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Post by M99 on Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:07 pm

@Thimmy wrote:The next agent 007? hmm

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Before all incels start frothing in the mouth, she is not gonna replace James Bond. Bond retires in the movie and when he comes back to MI6 there is a new agent codename 007. And that will be this woman.

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