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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:40 pm

steadying the ship

wish we had more pacy wingers with quality on 1v1. the way VInicius threatens teams from deep is lovely

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

If there's such a thing as an embarrassing win, this was it lol.

Our midfield play was pathetic (not their fault given tactics). Our forwards were pathetic after Benz went out.


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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by titosantill on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

we've gone through this a million times on this forum....well, we'll go through it a million and 1 more time. this team is absolute trash, and if you need a lesson in how to plan things extremely poorly, what we've done in the past summer should be the introductory course
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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Thimmy on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

@Beautiful Football wrote:Solari Not even Castilla Material how did he end up as a Senior Squad coach.
Should sack him straightway. Horrible coach.


Zidane didn't impress anyone when he coached our Castilla team, either. First team football and Castilla football are relatively different job circumstances.
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Post by Mamad on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:43 pm

Wait Ramos didn't take the freekick? how did that happen?

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:43 pm

I hope the 352 dies a very slow and painful death

I have no idea why Ceballos didn't start this game, we looked infinitely better in possession with him on.

Modric just isn't good enough anymore. For the love of God, just ask to be a back up ffs

I have heard alot of good things about this Crsto kid but my God he was awful today
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Post by sportsczy on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Zidane was a good coach at Castilla...  his problem was that Flo forced players on him mid season (we had taken over first place with Castilla) and there was drama around that... you know... the Odegaard fiasco.  He refused to practice with Castilla because his contract said he didn't have to... and to keep him, Zidane was forced to start him again per his contract.

It splintered that Castilla side as all the other kids were pissed off. So they went of the rails for about 6 weeks until they finished the season well again.

Solari was the worse coach in Castilla history as a FYI.


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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Solari with the guts for ffs once all the players are fit this is the intensity that you need to play with, let solari do what he wants to do put some pressure on the players, pressure, compact defending for 90 mins, the team can do much more, would say the same even with a draw.

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Adit on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:45 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:steadying the ship

wish we had more pacy wingers with quality on 1v1. the way VInicius threatens teams from deep is lovely
wish we had entire front three who can terrorise defenders like vinicius does.

Fed Velverde hype should be dead by today's display. Nice engine but not much footballing brain.

Regullion was very bad on the ball today. Too nervous , he needs to calm the fk down while on the ball.

Casemiro was awful. Llorente should be starting.


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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:46 pm

good game, the first half was great, team unity + defending, should have been 2-0 at the break.

Losing Benzema was a big blow, Cristo was not good at all.

then after the goal, Solari changes up the tactics and we get the win. This is a mature performance realized at the back of kids.

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Post by chad4401 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:47 pm

Valverde was great

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by titosantill on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:47 pm

@hala, its not the formation alone, its everything. coach (i have my reasons but i include lope in the blame too, sorry demon), formation, and personnel. like come on, this isn't a real madrid side.
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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Beautiful Football on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:47 pm

Lucky win.


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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:48 pm

@Adit wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:steadying the ship

wish we had more pacy wingers with quality on 1v1. the way VInicius threatens teams from deep is lovely
wish we had entire front three who can terrorise defenders like vinicius does.

Fed Velverde hype should be dead by today's display. Nice engine but not much footballing brain.

Regullion was very bad on the ball today. Too nervous , he needs to calm the fk down while on the ball.

Casemiro was awful. Llorente should be starting.

playing wing back is not the same as playing fullback. Reguillon doesnt have a lot of skills to be a dangerous wingback, at least not yet, he is still a young kid.

I can't stand Casemiro anymore, he has become slow and painful to watch in possession.

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Beautiful Football on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:48 pm

@Thimmy wrote:
@Beautiful Football wrote:Solari Not even Castilla Material how did he end up as a Senior Squad coach.
Should sack him straightway. Horrible coach.


Zidane didn't impress anyone when he coached our Castilla team, either. First team football and Castilla football are relatively different job circumstances.


Completely different Scenario and personality. Zidane had great man management skill, Professionalism . Was one of the greatest player of all time he earned a huge respect from player. I doubt Solari command same Respect from players, not as a former player not as a great manager .either.

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:48 pm

Vini doesn't terrorize anyone. Nobody has seen him so his first halfs (or as a sub, his few mins), he can really play to his strengths. But once teams scout him, or adjust like today, his tendencies are very very pronounced. He's a kid so he's raw... but with a lot of talent.

I HOPE we don't put to much pressure on him because he's going to get found out really soon here and that's normal.

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by titosantill on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:49 pm

hell, pique doesn't even make take shots at us anymore
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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Doc on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:50 pm

Considering I had us down for a sure loss, a win is absolutely delightful stuff. I really wish we had another winger that can do what Vini can do. When is Rodrygo coming again?

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm

Spot on Nick so many injuries, a team with a lot of youngsters saw out a tough away win wasn't pretty, but losing benzema crippled the team,need another cf asap.

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Thimmy on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Zidane was a good coach at Castilla...  his problem was that Flo forced players on him mid season (we had taken over first place with Castilla) and there was drama around that... you know... the Odegaard fiasco.  He refused to practice with Castilla because his contract said he didn't have to... and to keep him, Zidane was forced to start him again per his contract.  

It splintered that Castilla side as all the other kids were pissed off.


Like you, I watched quite a lot of their games at the time, when they supposedly had a pretty good crop of players, and it was not pretty to look at most of the time. Maybe it's normal for our Castilla, but often times individual players seemed to do their own thing, as opposed to following any tactical setup. I only watched them to keep tabs on Ødegaard's progress, but it wasn't what I would call coherent and fluid football.


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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm

Canales was offside by the way, i dont care what they say, they did not even show the image from VAR confirming the goal. what a joke

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by StrugaRock on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:52 pm

We play a 3-5-2 formation and you keep Marcelo out?

Marcelo throughout the match:

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:53 pm

We missed Benz in the 2nd half. Cristo was neither here nor there. Probably thought he was playing for Castilla
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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Mamad on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:54 pm

Don't care what anyone says, Benzema is being an striker and playmaker at the same time. he is the most creative player we have. not an elite goalscorer but our most important player in attack.

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Re: Real Betis v Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:54 pm

Marcelo wouldnt have worked as hard as Reguillon, sometimes football comes down to doing simple things like running not stop, being disciplined.

In our last game the other team's manager said they were targetting marcelo because they know he is not in shape lmao, this is another team's coach ffs.

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Post by chad4401 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:54 pm

The only players solari has a problem with is isco and asensio both have been bad.

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